More Labour Candidates

April 5th, 2008 at 10:32 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports that to help counter the under-representation of unionists in ’s caucus, CTU Secretary will be the likely candidate for Maungakiekie.

They also mention that and are expected to get good list rankings. Ardern is London-based.

At some stage I will set up a list of list-only for parties also, to complement the list of the major electorate .

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33 Responses to “More Labour Candidates”

  1. James W (277 comments) says:

    What happened to Leila Boyle? I heard she was a shoo-in for Maungakiekie.

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  2. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    Yes, but with Carol’s addition to caucus, and the likely “retirement” of some of the former unionists in the lower ranks of the list, we may expect the average level of competence of the unionist MPs to rise. You’d have to agree that would be a good thing. (I don’t include Maryan Street as a unionist MP.)

    BTW, did you know that Ronald Reagan is the only US President to date to have served as a union office holder?

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  3. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    James, Clearly the chair of the Maungakiekie LEC forgot to tell Carol B about that.

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  4. David Farrar (1,855 comments) says:

    Pete: The rankings will be very interesting.

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  5. Southern Raider (1,583 comments) says:

    Good to see you can now become a Labour MP by living on the other side of the world, getting on the list and just waiting for the election results to come through.

    This definetly stops of the inconvinence of having to quit your job, return to NZ and actually campaign.

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  6. Tane (1,096 comments) says:

    Carol Beaumont is a very capable woman and I’ve been impressed with her work at the CTU. Definite cabinet minister material there.

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  7. clintheine (1,563 comments) says:

    Ha ha, Tane made a funny. I don’t know any unionist to date that has ever contributed anything worthy to NZ politics.

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  8. Ross Miller (1,661 comments) says:

    Tane … sorry to have to point out that notwithstanding your strong endorsement of Beaumont I doubt very much whether John Key will want her round his cabinet table.

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  9. Policy Parrot (175 comments) says:

    Ross – is there anyone that JK wants – he doesn’t want Douglas, now Beaumont.
    Who would John Key want in Cabinet? He should announce it before the election so that voters have the option. ;)

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  10. David Farrar (1,855 comments) says:

    Beaumont does generally have a good reputation. She is no Fenton.

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  11. Ross Miller (1,661 comments) says:

    Policy Parrot … would have thought all you had to do was to look at the front and second bench line-up and their portfolio responsibilities. Your point (assuming you had one) totally escapes

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  12. James W (277 comments) says:

    Policy Parrot,

    Peter Brown maybe? :)

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  13. big bruv (13,279 comments) says:

    If the wage you earn as a politician is the highest you have (or will) ever earned then you have to wonder at the motivation for putting your name forward.

    What a pity we have to pay them at all, imagine how many socialists would reconsider their political careers if they actually did have to do it for their “genuine concern for the working classes”

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  14. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    Big Bruv, few MPs would be able to live off their own resources while serving in Parliament – in National as well as Labour.

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  15. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    # David Farrar Add karma Subtract karma +0 Says: April 5th, 2008 at 11:01 am “Pete: The rankings will be very interesting.”

    David: Oh, I should imagine that the final selection is in safe hands, as always. Can’t see CB missing out, as we wouldn’t want to disappoint…

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  16. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    BigBruv: What socialists? Name some, I need a good laugh.

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  17. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “What socialists? Name some, I need a good laugh.”

    Are you saying the Labour Party and Helen Klark in particular are not socialists??? You people have no pride. You are just shameless liars and propagandists.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

    Check this page. Look down the list of governing parties until you get to New Zealand. You pathetic lying propagandist.

    Klark has represented her party at the Socialist International Congress and the Socialist International Women’s Congress for a number of years. In fact, she’s been a card-carrying member of Socialist International for most of her political career, and was a keynote speaker at Socialist International’s world conference in Wellington seven years ago. The organisation’s website lists the NZ Prime Minister as a member of its ruling “Presidium”, in the capacity as “co-chair, Asia Pacific Committee”.

    Take your lying trash talk somewhere else Jafaboy.

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  18. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Oh, and Carol Beaumont is in my humble opinion a committed communist/ socialist and has been for most of her life. Jacinda Ardern has just been appointed chair person to the youth wing of Socialist International.

    BTW, what’s the implication of your comment above where you suggest that CB should be a shoe in because otherwise someone powerful may be disappointed? Is this anything to do with the fact that CB is a socialist lesbian, and therefore might receive special preferences from an unknown power broker in the Labour party? A source that, until you Jafaboy perhaps enlighten readers, can only be guessed at. What’s the reason for your reluctance to be your usual informative self?

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  19. Tane (1,096 comments) says:

    Beaumont does generally have a good reputation. She is no Fenton.

    David I think you’re unfairly harsh on Darien Fenton. She may not get a lot of recognition, but she does a lot of good work within the caucus around workers’ rights and is a very active and independent-minded MP. And in the last week or two she’s issued three press releases, which is rare for a backbencher.

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  20. Ronald (4 comments) says:

    clintheine wrote: “Ha ha, Tane made a funny. I don’t know any unionist to date that has ever contributed anything worthy to NZ politics.”

    Shows how much you know. A unionist called Michel Joseph Savage contributed a bit. YOU prbably wouldn’t like much of what he contributed but a lot of people thought it was ‘worthy’ enough to build a big old tomb and memorial at Bastion Point.

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  21. Swampy (273 comments) says:

    What under representation? Are union secretaries more than 50% of the population of NZ?

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  22. radar (319 comments) says:

    Redbaiter, I was wondering why you misspell Helen Clark’s surname as “Klark”? Is it an attempt at wit on your part? Or (my first guess) are you illiterate and unaware that the Prime Minister’s name is not spelt the way you spell it? Please clarify.
    If it is a pathetic attempt at some sort of wit, could you please tell me what the joke is.

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  23. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    Redbaited, you dimwit, being in SI doesn’t make one socialist. The ALP’s in it as well… have you seen their policies?

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  24. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    I know Raymond Huo and that’s interesting.

    Raymond is very well connected in the Chinese community, in fact every Chinese person I drop his name to seems to know him!

    A high list placing would be nothing more than a sign to the Chinese to vote for Labour to get Raymond in parliament.

    I must also say that Raymond is a very nice guy, a true gentleman and I wish him the best. I also don’t know of any past involvement of Raymond in the Labour Party. He seems to be a ‘hired gun’ for the Chinese vote.

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  25. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Redbaited, you dimwit, being in SI doesn’t make one socialist.”

    Making such an irrational claim without a milligram of accompanying shame or embarrassment is something that only the pathological left are capable of attempting. ..and you didn’t answer my questions. Something you prefer to hide is it?

    “I was wondering why you misspell Helen Clark’s surname as “Klark”?”

    No question mark is necessary, because you’re making a statement not asking a question. You’d know that if you’d been educated rather than indoctrinated. Its the socialists who control the school system whom you have to thank for your ignorance, and they have also shielded you from the historical significance of the letter K, especially as it is so reminiscent of what was once the internationally recognised flagship of global leftist politics, the Soviet Socialist Republik. They do not want to be reminded of the destruction and loss of life and crushing of freedoms that their political system is responsible for, and neither do they want it to be a reference point for any NZ student.

    Kremlin KGB Kalashnikov Kruschev Kiev Nomenklatura Balalika Mikhail Ukraine Viktor Sputnik Nikolai etk etk etk….

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  26. dad4justice (7,765 comments) says:

    “Redbaited, you dimwit ”

    Ol’ jaffapet giving me mate red some static eh. Well you wimpish geek go suck a socialist organ you twisted liarbour creep !

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  27. Peak Oil Conspiracy (2,943 comments) says:

    JafaPete:

    Redbaited, you dimwit, being in SI doesn’t make one socialist.

    You’ve made a bit of a rod for your own back there. By that logic, you’d presumably accept that being in the Business Roundtable doesn’t make one an ultra-rich, far-right leaning, neoliberal, plutocratic prick? (Just to adopt a few of Phillip John/Roger Nome’s favourite epithets – which you no doubt agree with).

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  28. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    Right POC, there are some members of the BRT who are not “ultra-rich, far-right leaning, neoliberal, plutocratic pricks”.

    And Redbaited, if you had looked at that wikipedia page properly, you would have seen that it states that, “The Socialist International is a worldwide organization of social democratic and labour political parties.” (taken from SI’s own website, actually.) I don’t have time to explain to you the difference between social democratic and socialist. Try finding out about that yourself. A little education would go a long way in your case.

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  29. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “I don’t have time to explain to you the difference between social democratic and socialist.”

    A lie. You have the time, you just don’t have an argument that will wash. The “difference” is merely semantical bullshit. The essence of all left wing political groups, from the Bolsheviks to the Democrats, is that you are a gang of control freak thugs who seek power in order to force through government regulation your political ideas upon the unwilling and or the unsuspecting citizenry. You abuse and pervert the democratic system, and steal money from the public purse, and use government and its agencies to every extent you are able, to incrementally suppress free speech, free thought and freedom of choice and almost every other freedom, to gradually bring about a totalitarian one party state.

    Social democrats, socialists, progressives, what utter crap. All the same deceit ridden corrupt power obsessed thieves and totalitarians. Just communists pretending otherwise.

    “Try finding out about that yourself.”

    I’ve found it out you patronising dipshit.

    “A little education would go a long way in your case.”

    Yeah, well when it came to little education, you’d know. If there’s ever any one common and paramount identifier of communists and their thinking patterns, its a narrow and politically one dimensional educational experience.

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  30. reid (15,942 comments) says:

    The defining mark of most leftists (except for the lefty leaders) is they don’t know they’re being fooled. They imagine others are like them and because they themselves are generally kind and thoughtful, they imagine Der Leaders are too. Sadly they’re completely wrong.

    You’re being treated like idiots guys, it’s a shame and also rather telling, that you don’t, won’t and never will see that.

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  31. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    yes reid the term ‘cannon fodder’ comes to mind.

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  32. jafapete (766 comments) says:

    Great guys, keep it up. I’m laughing. Funniest thing since your attempts to find Iraqi WMDs!

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  33. dad4justice (7,765 comments) says:

    Small things amuse small minds jaffapet !!

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