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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-441875</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZenTiger, I just read your post over on NZ Conservative and that was some damn fine investigative work. I guess now we can see how hollow little old Philip John really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZenTiger, I just read your post over on NZ Conservative and that was some damn fine investigative work. I guess now we can see how hollow little old Philip John really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Readman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-440150</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Readman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got sent a link to this months ago by Nicky Wagner.  Looks like National MPs and candidates are promoting it in a big way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got sent a link to this months ago by Nicky Wagner.  Looks like National MPs and candidates are promoting it in a big way.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439744</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Nome:

I find this a damn sight less &quot;creepy&quot; than ALAC&#039;s latest shock jock ads showing in pre-watershed prime time.  Including the charming one with ends with a drunk woman being lead into an alley by a man who turns to leer at the camera... and just as this image fades to black, she starts screaming.

Implied rape - A-OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Nome:</p>
<p>I find this a damn sight less &#8220;creepy&#8221; than ALAC&#8217;s latest shock jock ads showing in pre-watershed prime time.  Including the charming one with ends with a drunk woman being lead into an alley by a man who turns to leer at the camera&#8230; and just as this image fades to black, she starts screaming.</p>
<p>Implied rape &#8211; A-OK?</p>
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		<title>By: labrator</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439405</link>
		<dc:creator>labrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t go to the south of France in summer time roger. All the women on the beach promote rape whilst lying in the sun, going for swims, buying ice creams and having a good time. It&#039;s a horrible place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t go to the south of France in summer time roger. All the women on the beach promote rape whilst lying in the sun, going for swims, buying ice creams and having a good time. It&#8217;s a horrible place.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smaller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439229</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face it.  RogerNome obviously shares Mark Prebble&#039;s views on breasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it.  RogerNome obviously shares Mark Prebble&#8217;s views on breasts.</p>
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		<title>By: radar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439226</link>
		<dc:creator>radar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread has largely run out of steam, but if I may add my two cents: It says something about Stephen Franks that he would have such a video on his website. Hasn&#039;t he always been seen as being a little odd? This really isn&#039;t about having a sense of humour, it&#039;s about the difference between good and poor taste, maturity and immaturity. I mean, would Don Brash do such a thing? Would John Key? Would Rodney Hide? And Mr Franks wanted to be the leader of the ACT Party. Thank goodness he lost that contest. The Nats are welcome to this odd ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has largely run out of steam, but if I may add my two cents: It says something about Stephen Franks that he would have such a video on his website. Hasn&#8217;t he always been seen as being a little odd? This really isn&#8217;t about having a sense of humour, it&#8217;s about the difference between good and poor taste, maturity and immaturity. I mean, would Don Brash do such a thing? Would John Key? Would Rodney Hide? And Mr Franks wanted to be the leader of the ACT Party. Thank goodness he lost that contest. The Nats are welcome to this odd ball.</p>
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		<title>By: ZenTiger</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439195</link>
		<dc:creator>ZenTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger Nome / Phillip John, you are so outed: &lt;a href=&quot;http://nzconservative.blogspot.com/2008/04/poltical-boobs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Political Boobs&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Nome / Phillip John, you are so outed: <a href="http://nzconservative.blogspot.com/2008/04/poltical-boobs.html" rel="nofollow">Political Boobs</a></p>
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		<title>By: the deity formerly known as nigel6888</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439067</link>
		<dc:creator>the deity formerly known as nigel6888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes Tom an alleged &quot;national party supporter&quot;, feels the need to call the Herald about a wellington central candidate.  Why the Herald one wonders?  Who is Mr Prouse? surely not another labour party activist running a false flag campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes Tom an alleged &#8220;national party supporter&#8221;, feels the need to call the Herald about a wellington central candidate.  Why the Herald one wonders?  Who is Mr Prouse? surely not another labour party activist running a false flag campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: toms</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439065</link>
		<dc:creator>toms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bahahahahahaha! I see this latest piece of David Farrar’s thematic misogyny has made the Herald this morning. A very bad piece of judgment by both Mr. Franks and his erstwhile manager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bahahahahahaha! I see this latest piece of David Farrar’s thematic misogyny has made the Herald this morning. A very bad piece of judgment by both Mr. Franks and his erstwhile manager.</p>
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		<title>By: the deity formerly known as nigel6888</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439059</link>
		<dc:creator>the deity formerly known as nigel6888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup POC I think you might be right.  So not only is phillipjohn a dour humourless socialist git (but I repeat myself) he also can&#039;t hold his liquor. 

Interesting how he keeps on the unforced error.  So PJs highest forms of insult are to call someone intellectually disabled or to accuse them of being gay.  When he thinks about women he couples hatred (despises) with what he desires.  

Some psychologist is going to have his/her next porsche paid for by PJ quite soon I reckon. 

Wonder how his feminist gender studies &quot;girlfriend&quot; appreciates his misogyny, latent homophobia and self loathing - although I guess these are a set of core competencies for a male in the progressive left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup POC I think you might be right.  So not only is phillipjohn a dour humourless socialist git (but I repeat myself) he also can&#8217;t hold his liquor. </p>
<p>Interesting how he keeps on the unforced error.  So PJs highest forms of insult are to call someone intellectually disabled or to accuse them of being gay.  When he thinks about women he couples hatred (despises) with what he desires.  </p>
<p>Some psychologist is going to have his/her next porsche paid for by PJ quite soon I reckon. </p>
<p>Wonder how his feminist gender studies &#8220;girlfriend&#8221; appreciates his misogyny, latent homophobia and self loathing &#8211; although I guess these are a set of core competencies for a male in the progressive left?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439048</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It think the idea of twin air-bags as a safety measure has already been piloted elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It think the idea of twin air-bags as a safety measure has already been piloted elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Peak Oil Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439029</link>
		<dc:creator>Peak Oil Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip John/Roger Nome:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
April 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
gotta go drink some wine. Latter.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
April 26th, 2008 at 3:24 am
I h8 miself and I am gay1
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

WTF?  Is this Phillip John&#039;s idea of chardonnay socialism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip John/Roger Nome:</p>
<blockquote><p>
April 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm<br />
gotta go drink some wine. Latter.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Then:</p>
<blockquote><p>
April 26th, 2008 at 3:24 am<br />
I h8 miself and I am gay1
</p></blockquote>
<p>WTF?  Is this Phillip John&#8217;s idea of chardonnay socialism?</p>
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		<title>By: roger nome</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-439019</link>
		<dc:creator>roger nome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Franks:

I h8 miself and  I am gay1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Franks:</p>
<p>I h8 miself and  I am gay1</p>
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		<title>By: MikeE</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-438882</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>122 Comments and noone likes tits?  What is this world coming to. 

Surely any feminist should be defending a womans right to do what she wants with her own body... especially when it contributes to vehicular safety in this manner

:-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>122 Comments and noone likes tits?  What is this world coming to. </p>
<p>Surely any feminist should be defending a womans right to do what she wants with her own body&#8230; especially when it contributes to vehicular safety in this manner</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: the deity formerly known as nigel6888</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-438876</link>
		<dc:creator>the deity formerly known as nigel6888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this thread still going?

well well, so feminist ideologues tell porkies to support their prejudices.

who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this thread still going?</p>
<p>well well, so feminist ideologues tell porkies to support their prejudices.</p>
<p>who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: Alces</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-438786</link>
		<dc:creator>Alces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;an&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to see that the forelock tugging Danes still retain some vestiges of market capitalism.

Contracts offered and accepted are as encouraging as a  Asian street stall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to see that the forelock tugging Danes still retain some vestiges of market capitalism.</p>
<p>Contracts offered and accepted are as encouraging as a  Asian street stall</p>
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		<title>By: F E Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-438756</link>
		<dc:creator>F E Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Peak Oil. 

I take your point about taking pleas in mitigation too far.  It is very important to keep an eye on your client while making the plea because of just that situation.  Undoes anything the client may have told one earlier!  Unfortunately there are some lawyers who are only too happy to believe everything their client tells them, although in my experience they usually aren&#039;t specialist defence lawyers, simply general practitioners who occasionally appear in court.  But it certainly doesn&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Peak Oil. </p>
<p>I take your point about taking pleas in mitigation too far.  It is very important to keep an eye on your client while making the plea because of just that situation.  Undoes anything the client may have told one earlier!  Unfortunately there are some lawyers who are only too happy to believe everything their client tells them, although in my experience they usually aren&#8217;t specialist defence lawyers, simply general practitioners who occasionally appear in court.  But it certainly doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Strutta</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/04/new_speed_campaign.html#comment-438739</link>
		<dc:creator>Strutta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger nome...you haven&#039;t yet answered my questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger nome&#8230;you haven&#8217;t yet answered my questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Peak Oil Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peak Oil Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F E Smith:

An excellent contribution to the discussion - thank you.

I doubt you&#039;ll ever convince Phillip John/Roger Nome about your points.  He&#039;s self-declared a vested interest: his girlfriend lectures in gender studies.  But I believe most moderate-thinking folk, like you, would watch the video and conclude that it&#039;s a harmless exercise in humour.  Nothing more, nothing less.

As for your other point that &quot;&lt;i&gt;the defence bar seems to be considered to be just as much responsible for crimes as the people who commit them&lt;/i&gt;&quot;: I think the negative public perception may arise from the pleadings in mitigation.  Not to tar all defence lawyers with the same brush, but I can think of a recent example reported in the local press where a defence lawyer was busily assuring the judge that his client was deeply remorseful.  The truth was otherwise: his &quot;client&quot; was reportedly smirking and grinning throughout the court proceeding.  Naturally, it&#039;s the defence lawyer&#039;s duty to put the best case forward for the client, but when that &quot;best case&quot; stretches beyond the point of credibility and into fantasy land, I think that&#039;s when defence lawyers generate the negative public sentiment.  Again, not to tar all of them with the same brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F E Smith:</p>
<p>An excellent contribution to the discussion &#8211; thank you.</p>
<p>I doubt you&#8217;ll ever convince Phillip John/Roger Nome about your points.  He&#8217;s self-declared a vested interest: his girlfriend lectures in gender studies.  But I believe most moderate-thinking folk, like you, would watch the video and conclude that it&#8217;s a harmless exercise in humour.  Nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>As for your other point that &#8220;<i>the defence bar seems to be considered to be just as much responsible for crimes as the people who commit them</i>&#8220;: I think the negative public perception may arise from the pleadings in mitigation.  Not to tar all defence lawyers with the same brush, but I can think of a recent example reported in the local press where a defence lawyer was busily assuring the judge that his client was deeply remorseful.  The truth was otherwise: his &#8220;client&#8221; was reportedly smirking and grinning throughout the court proceeding.  Naturally, it&#8217;s the defence lawyer&#8217;s duty to put the best case forward for the client, but when that &#8220;best case&#8221; stretches beyond the point of credibility and into fantasy land, I think that&#8217;s when defence lawyers generate the negative public sentiment.  Again, not to tar all of them with the same brush.</p>
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