“Big Dad” told me to lie
The depositions hearing for former Labour Minister Taito Philip Field, or “Big Dad” continues. The Herald reports:
A Thai overstayer who tiled MP Taito Phillip Field’s house in Samoa says Field gave him 1000 tala ($553) after asking him to lie to police about the work he had done for him.
Sunan Siriwan, who referred to Field twice as “Big Dad”, told the Manukau District Court through an interpreter yesterday that “almost everything” he said to a lawyer appointed to investigate the case was untrue.
He said Field told him, while driving in a car in Samoa in or around December 2005, that he had “a problem” in New Zealand and that he should tell the police that he did not work for the MP.
“He told me at that time that you are not working at my place, and he also said to me, ‘Don’t tell the police that you and I met’,” Mr Siriwan said.
He said Field asked him the next morning if he had money, and Mr Siriwan replied that he did.
“Then he gave me 1000 tala, which he has never given me that much before,” Mr Siriwan told the court. “I did not understand why he gave me so much money.”
Hmmn, is this a multi-choice test?
He said he worked mostly seven days a week for eight to 10 hours a day. In return, he was paid “expenses”.
“Some weeks I got 100 tala ($55), other weeks 150 to 200 tala ($83-$110),” he said.
Labour’s commitment to strong wages – except for their slave labour working for under $2 an hour.
He said that about three months after he arrived in Samoa, he received a letter from Field about a work permit in New Zealand. Shortly afterwards, two other Thai men, Kaew and Yao, arrived from New Zealand “to do gib-stopping for Big Dad”.
Such a charming nickname, yet so apt.
May 6th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Labour’s commitment to strong wages – except for their slave labour working for under $2 an hour.”
We all know that Taito is an independant MP now, he has no recollectable history with the Labour party, never has, in fact he may have been a far right plant from day one.
May 6th, 2008 at 7:52 am
“…he has no recollectable history with the Labour party,..”
Oh come on! This is a stretch! or are you being sarcastic?
May 6th, 2008 at 8:08 am
phobius, phobius, phobuis – sarcastic Tuesday my friend.
I’m sure Taito will soon be linked with the National party or the EB.
He is now an enemy of the people.
You’d have to think his goose is cooked.
Maybe a post on pertinent quotes from the Labour hierarchy is in order DPF?
May 6th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Out of curiosity I thought to check what the Labour Party’s blogging mouthpiece, the Standard, had to say on Taito Philip Field. I could not find anything on the first page, although they did have a lot of articles about John Key.
I had a look at the Tag Cloud and that shows … you guess it. John Key. In large letters. And preciously little else. Not one mention of Taito Philip Field.
So let’s look at the tagged posts. Fuckwits? There are 6 posts in there, most of them about DPF or Whaleoil. 146 posts tagged with John Key. Followed by Media, National and International. Not even in Labour is there any mention of Taito Philip Field.
Search? Maybe those hypocrites had actually posted something and you only needed to search for it. And what do we discover? Two entries that have the word “Taito” in them. One that references an article on Gorden Copeland and Brian Tamaki and God. And one about different pay rates for youth workers.
So as goodgod and Chicken Little have pointed out – Taito was never a member of the Labour Party. He was never guilty of only helping his constituents. He was never cleared by a fake Labour party inquiry. In fact, he was quite likely a member of the National Party, working in cahoots with the Standards’ favourite topic (John Key) to sell assets to impoverished Thai Tilers.
I know this because the Standard says so. Well. Through their silence, that is.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:02 am
I do wonder if “Big Dad” got his lying slaves to call him Master? Did he borrow the Liarbour whip from panty slut boy so he could keep the servants obedient? Whip em hard, whip em good, says the tennis ball stutterman.
I do wonder if we could do a quick whip round and collect some money too reimburse these manipulated people, as a dishonest cretin, who gives the word “dad” a bad name, used these most unfortunates.
History will be savage on Helen Clark’s disgusting regime.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I wonder if MC still stands by his assertion that the only thing TPF was guilty of was helping a constituent?
May 6th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Who gives the word “dad” a bad name?
May 6th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Oh look. Roger Nome trolling with more personal attacks.
Don’t let him divert you D4J, stay on topic and stay away from demerits. The only reason he’s baiting you is because he has no answer for the corruption of the Labour party and he’s looking to derail the topic.
Don’t let him do that.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Dear oh Dear Why should we be surprised And how many other Socialist MPs are guilty of the same offences. The only difference is they are smart enough to not get caught out.
They work the Big End of town and the numbers have many more noughts in them that TPFs.
One Noel Ingram QC is looking more and more incompetent by the day and a sucker who what used and abused by Clark to try and cover up Fields activities to protect the seat.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Sheesh -roger nome is at it before 10am – he must be getting desperate! We don’t normally see him until the afternoon.
May 6th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Chicken Little said “I’m sure Taito will soon be linked with the National party or the EB”
That’s the one CL – Taito is a Christian; Christians worship God; EB’s worship God; Taito is an EB – stands to reason doesn’t it!!!
May 6th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Hi Roger, how you doing?
Hows your Mum?
So Roger, What do you think of TPFs trial so far?
Do you think, with the evidence presented so far, that the official inquiry is looking like a bit of a sham?
Do you think it’s fair and equatable that TPF paid this man $2 per hour?
Finally Roger, what sort of career do you envisage for yourself when you finish your Masters? (just curious)
May 6th, 2008 at 10:03 am
The real joke in all this is that it all came out before the last election but Clarke hid it with that joke of an inquiry. Her corruption is worse than Field’s.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:04 am
What was Clark’s role in this?, she must have been aware of what was going on or she would not have set the Ingram inquiry terms of reference so tightly.
She needs to prove to the people of NZ that she had no idea of what was going on, until then I will remain convinced that she was fully aware of what was going on.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Oh look. Chicken Little trolling with more personal attacks.
Don’t let him divert you Roger Nome, stay on topic and stay away from demerits.
[Acknowledgements to Pascal, 9.36am]
May 6th, 2008 at 10:16 am
A day without wodga is a day without an extra sphincter.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:17 am
With all due respect to Noel Ingram, the report he made was constrained by the terms of reference set by the 9th floor, yet he still managed to get enough through the obfuscation to ensure that the mud stuck, and good on him. If Noel Ingram had not done the thorough job that he did we would not be going down this road. Credit where it is due. I am sure that if Mr Ingram had the freedom to do so, the initial report would have been damning!
May 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Jafa
Woger deserves each and every person attack he gets, I did wonder if he was one of the chardonnay socialist set, Chicken Littles post seems to confirm this.
What’s the story with his mum?
May 6th, 2008 at 10:22 am
What personal attack was in CL’s comment jafa?
Unless you’re bucking for the amazing thin skinned man of the decade award your comment is just a collection of 1′s and 0′s with no recognisable meaning.
Oh wait I get it, asking a leftie to answer a direct question is a personal insult because it implies that socialists are somehow answerable to the masses and are required to justified their fucked up world view. I appologise.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:34 am
ROWIROW
As I have said before Ingram is a QC As such he should have known the TORs were set such that he was never ever going to be able to get to the bottom of the matter. Therefore his correct and ethical action should have been to say to the PM
Unless you set the TORs so I can invetsigate this matter fully and not be constrained I will not undertake the assignment.
And he should also have said to the PM that he would go public if she did not agree to his reasonable request. That was his ethical and moral duty.
Ingram made hinself a part of the coverup that was orchestrated by Clark
If he couldnt spot a highjack in the TORs then he shoudnt be practising the law.
Even a 1st year law student could see the TORs were a setup.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Well said Murray (10:22).
May 6th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Sorry I couldn’t resist, as things are far too quiet for my liking, but what ya reckon sonic thinks about big dad master Fatty Field?
In go the pins on the d4j doll.Ouch !
May 6th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Re. the Ingram report – as has been noted his terms of reference were very very tight. Within those terms of reference only Helen Clark could interpret the findings as a ‘complete exoneration’. Whatever the outcome of the eventual trial (and remember the standard of proof and the fact that a jury gets to hear all the evidence – not just the sound bites) it is clear that to have claimed TPF was completely exonerated is nothing short of a joke.
May 6th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Go easy on Sonic d4j, he’s probably pissed that the cheap tiler he booked through “big dad” can’t make it to the job this week.
May 6th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
gd: ” As I have said before Ingram is a QC As such he should have known the TORs were set such that he was never ever going to be able to get to the bottom of the matter. Therefore his correct and ethical action should have been to say to the PM”
I couldn’t agree more. A very valid point.
More to the Point:
Why did Police Commissioner Howard Broad not investigate my complaint !9 July 2006 against Hon Philip Field, and later even denied it existed? (An alleged attempt to pervert, prevent and defeat the course of justice?). Yet we have the High Court testing the validity at present of the police case against Field.
Helen Clark was sent copy of the complaint and did nothing. Does she become party to the crime?
May 6th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
None of this even compares with a party that took bribes in return for policy, i.e. the Racing lobby’s monetary donations, and express support of National in return for a lowering of the tax is it subject to, if National won government.
You really need to tidy up your backyard before you have any moral standing.
May 6th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Frank
Totally agree, without a convincing explanation both Broad & Clark are likely effective accessories after the fact, I ‘m not holding my breath that the Justice system will do anything however and it will be left to the electorate to remove the cause of the stench.
May 6th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Am I missing something here or is Field just tarred with a brush because he’s a former Labour Lackey.
Quite obviously this little Thai sounds as slippery as he looks. He has a complete lack of credibility. He is changing his story as much as his underwear if hes even doing that!
Having googled back Taito’s position and statements have remained completely consistent apart from maybe not telling Ingram as much as he could have but I thought it was a human right not to incriminate yourself anyway.
The evidence shows that they obviously looked up to Taito as a father figure and I think the term is very fitting is complimentary to him and and I cannot imagine any person saying the same about Trevor Mallard, mickey Cullen or Helen Clark etc or even Mike Williams to name a few. Even though I never had the honour of meeting the guy he at least looks honest and has simply offered to try to help people.
Whats an MP for anyway if you cant go and ask for his help in getting your problem attended to or fixed up!
As for him being a Nat supporter or a EB – could be a National supporter but they having been blasting him mercilessly while Labour just dropped him like a poisoned chalice.
An EB – no chance – the EB spent their own money whereas he spent his Labour Cabinet ministers salary helping people!!!!
The more I hear of this case the more I am convinced that the guy is innocent. I cannot reconcile in my mind the pledge card rort with all its deliberate cold calculated deception with this simple case of helping an electorate constituent or a portfolio constituent.
AND if Helen dumps him like she did that is a badge of honour because if he was guilty she would be defending him like she defends all the other Labour Party crooks until they have to step down DBP etc.
May 6th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
freethinker:
In my view there is sufficient strength in our statutory system to deal with – “ALL OR ANY ALLEGATIONS OF CORRUPTION WILL BE INVESTIGATED”. Helen Clark’s words 10 APRIL 2003 (Hansard) A complete Misrepresentation without an ounce of truth in it!
We can’t leave it to an election. No incoming Government will tackle this entrenched cancer
I am interested to see how Police Commissioner Howard Broad deals with the 4 complaints laid against those involved in the present alleged immigration Service Scam, Including the State Services Commissioner, Immigration Minister, Labour Minister, and those involved in the previous “In House” inquiries.
These people are all in the “Service of the Crown” and are trying to take advantage of their position, by disadvantaging us all, including us the Taxpayers paying their salaries and perks, whilst they allegedly rort the system.
In my book all guilty of a felony.
So what’s the next step Police Commissioner Howard Broad?
And reader If you don’t believe me check with the Police Commissioner’s Office? Simple as that. Is the Action justified in the Public Interest
Now is the chance for all you Labour supporters to expose me. Just a simple telephone Call
May 6th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Frank The judicary the civil service the Police and the legal profession dont have the balls to challenge the Socialists.
It not just your compliants that are filed in the round filing cabinet. Others are filed there as well.
Or if you really persist they “lose” the file. Or if you really really persist they just do a go slow on your compliant.
And if it really gets sticky they use the Not in the Public Interest excuse
May 6th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
gd: Agreed. However Police do not necessarily just file a complaint. They go through a well traversed charade. However they get too clever for their own good, especially when the Chief Legal Adviser to the Commissioner, Dr A R Jack, disappears without trace and his acting successor tries to score on a forward pass and is caught. That’s when they file the case.
They are so immune, wholeheartedly supported by the Police Complaints Authority, that they quite openly pervert, prevent and defeat the course of justice, with the knowing support of the Prime Minister, Attorney-General, Minister of Police and with a wink, wink, nod, nod from the Governor-General, an ex Ombudsman.
Somewhere in my file i have an Email from the Office of the Hon Winston Peters agreeing that we have a Police State in New Zealand
May 7th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Looks like the Brown Slug is going to get squished.
Goody goody!