Blog Bits
May 6th, 2008 at 2:47 pm by David FarrarSteven Price blogs that the headlines regarding the Berrymans bear little resemblance to the reality of what the Judge ruled which was simply to say that the Coroner was wrong to say that the collapse was primarily the Berrymans’ fault but he effectively amended that to partly their fault.
Bryce Edwards blogs on how Matt McCarten deserves his rating by Metro as a “right bastard”.
Cactus Kate blogs that she has managed to restore Deborah Hill Cone.
Fairfacts Media points out the PM is being somewhat economical with the truth when she claims Telecom wrote National’s broadband policy. I guess she believes if you repeat a lie enough times, people may believe it.
Tags: broadband, Bryce Edwards, Cactus Kate, Deborah Hill Cone, Helen Clark, Keith Berryman, Margaret Berryman, Matt McCarten, Metro, No Minister, Steven Price
May 6th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
The Army counsel lied in its submissions to the Coroners Court Ok Berryman supplied substandard wood but the Army Engineers should have refused to build the bridge.
The Counsel knew this and to cover their butts set out to destroy the Berrymans. Other Government departments Labour etc where in on the act. All in all another example of the Government being the enemy of the people.
We have too many very nasty civil servants who will use their power to crush the citizen in any way they can.
Vote:May 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Fairfacts Media points out the PM is being somewhat economical with the truth when she claims Telecom wrote National’s broadband policy. I guess she believes if you repeat a lie enough times, people may believe it.
Well of course she is an authority on the proposition that if you repeat a lie enough times people will believe it. That is her modus operandi and has kept her in office for almost a decade.
Vote:May 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
baxter, I think you’ll find that Clark’s superior intellect and command of detail, the latter buttressed by workaholism, has had more to do with her electoral success for almost a decade. Along with weak opponents. You underestimate NZers.
Vote:May 6th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Interesting gd, there seems to be an evolving legal fiction here….
It’s being gradually “deemed” that pubic servants are never responsible for any common sense judgement that may be usually expected as a matter of course from any other mere citizen.
Cave Creek comes to mind.
I came, I saw, I ignored….and I was legally safe.
NZ, the socialist paradise, where no-one is responsible for anything, anywhere.
Vote:May 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
On Matt McCarten, I blogged elsewhere (and yes, Redbaited, I am coping with the traffic, even when it soars into double figures) a couple of days ago a similar conclusion to Bryce Edwards’ blog today:
Some right-wing bloggers (here, here, and here) have been trying to promote the idea of a far-left takeover of the CTU linked to a new Alliance-type party. Ignore the blatant attempt at wedge politics from the right. Matt’s criticism of Kelly’s comments is much more readily explained as the response of a staunch unionist to a union leader lashing out at striking workers on behalf of a government that ought to know better. And I’m inclined to agree.
Vote:May 6th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
It appears that the Army counsel misled if not lied to the Coroner over the Butcher report, this seems like perjury and actually perverting the course of justice which seems to be overlooked by the judiciary. The butcher report indicated that the Berrymans could not observe the timber rotting as it was covered from view but not flashed against moisture ingression so to blame the Berrymans for lack of maintenance seems unreasonable and in any event the actual bridge life was significantly less than the design anticipated so the Army must bear some responsibility in that area. The refusal of justice Wild to even read the Butcher report raises questions of competence, judgement and possible complicity which is a really bad look for a justice system that is perceived by the public as inefficient and out of touch at best, corrupt at worst. The reported refusal of the pm to sanction adequate compensation for ” political reasons” has the same stench that has accompanied the other often inexplicable lack of prosection of the Labour administration and their supporters in the face of primae facia evidence that in other cases has resulted in prosection albeit failed as in the Rickards case which itself riased more questions than answers.
Vote:May 7th, 2008 at 12:44 am
The bridge was owned by the Berrymans and when they were prosecuted it became the armys bridge, what became of the Berrymans property rights/obligations?.
Vote:May 7th, 2008 at 8:56 am
“..for a justice system that is perceived by the public as inefficient and out of touch at best, corrupt at worst.”
Any evidence for that statement, Freethinker? Note that the kiwiblog right is not the same thing as “the public”.
Vote:May 7th, 2008 at 9:42 am
jafa
“Any evidence for that statement”
I can think of about four instances of “while there is a prima facie case….” that might support that statement.
Vote:May 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
BigBruv, Are these instances where “the public” has been found to perceive the justice system to be “inefficient and out of touch at best, corrupt at worst”? Or are they four instances that you consider (possibly justifiably) demonstrate that the justice system to be “inefficient and out of touch at best, corrupt at worst”?
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