Selwyn Selection

May 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm by David Farrar

The National selection fro Selwyn has been under since around 3.30 p.m. with five candidates competing. The seat is about as safe National as one can get, so who-ever is selected will be an MP for a reasonably long time.

So far there have been three ballots, and it is down to the final ballot between Amy Adams and Alex McKinnon. This is pretty much a win-win as both of them are exceptional candidates, and someone at the meeting described one of their speeches as “Prime Ministerial” and the other as “Outstanding”.

I’ll update with the final result when known. There are several hundred voting delegates so it can take a while to count the votes.

UPDATE: Amy Adams won on the fourth and final ballot. Huge congratulations to Amy and commiserations to all the others – great to have such a good contest with so many good candidates. The big winner is actually the residents of Selwyn who are going to get a superb MP.

Amy is a bit of a super-woman. She is in her 30s and manages to be a mum to two kids, a lawyer, a lobbyist for the NZ Health Trust, helps with the farm, chairs the local school board of trustees, is a director of various companies and oh yeah is training for triathlons.

It has been great to see so many good people being selected as candidates.

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47 Responses to “Selwyn Selection”

  1. PaulL (5,233) Says:

    Alex McKinnon. Any relation to Don?

    [DPF: Nephew]

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  2. first time caller (381) Says:

    I believe he is…may be a nephew

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  3. ghostwhowalks3 (387) Says:

    So a possible candidates speech is ‘Prime Ministerial´’

    Well this is what the the person with best chance in the NP is like , that doesnt say much

    “Yeah, I mean look, the truth is, with the greatest respect to Rodney, he doesn’t understand the telecommunications sector very well if he can’t sort of answer some of the questions he’s rolling out,” he [Key] said.

    “For a start off [sic],” he said, “look at Television New Zealand’s digital strategy. Well, that’s going over Freeview, you take Freeview over fibre, that’s what’s been happening all over the world, that’s what you do with, you know, the likes of pay-TV like SKY.”

    Um, in terms of the, you know, the business case,” he continued, “well yes, the business case initially would support some fibre but not a whole, ah, ubiquitous roll out, but that’s what we need to occur from New Zealand’s point of view.”

    “Um, yeah,” Mr Key concluded, “and look at the wider national interest in economic benefits, this is no different from rolling out electricity back in, you know, back 100 years ago or roads back a long time ago.”

    as reported in NBR

    [DPF: And 10 demerits off topic for attempted thread jacking again. Set your own blog up if you want to turn every thread into how you don't like John Key]

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  4. first time caller (381) Says:

    GWW… John Key is far more popular than any of your lot. I know it must be hard to deal with, but there you go. Imitating his conversational manner just makes you look bitter.

    BTW it’s nothing compared to the stuttering of David Parker on Morning Report last week…but then he’ll never be Prime Ministerial…or is he the best you can do?

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  5. GPT1 (1,969) Says:

    Amy Adams has won.

    GWW threadjacking again. Get a life.

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  6. GPT1 (1,969) Says:

    Ah yes, i see you have updated. Amy is an impressive woman and an extremely high quality candidate (amongst a number of very good quality candidates – Roger Payne NOT included). The biggest challenge for Amy under a John Key lead govt (touch wood) is that her talent and ability will be harnessed as a back bench MP in a first term govt – an exercise in frustration!

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  7. Alces (310) Says:

    Has Amy pledged to get out of my life and economic activity or do we have another establishment Rotary Club National?

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  8. BlairM (2,048) Says:

    Yes, National doesn’t have a great record with blonde women – is this another Ruth Richardson or another Katherine Rich?

    [DPF: I am unsure what it means that you judge people off hair colour, but I am a big fan of both Ruth and Katherine. And as for Amy, I suggest she will be her own person, not a clone of someone who has gone before.]

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  9. ghostwhowalks3 (387) Says:

    Did they burn the ballot papers to give off white smoke .

    BTW, since when did Judith Collins become the MP for Papakura ( according to your candidate list)

    Looks like there will be more lawyers than Boston Legal ( possible tauranga) for the national party. That will connect well with the ordinary public

    [DPF: She is the candidate for Papakura, but the incumbent MP for the old seat which makes up most of the new seat]

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  10. bustedblonde (137) Says:

    Excellent news ! National is finally getting rid of the old grey suits and picking people who will really make a difference…

    Ye bloody ha…..!!! there will be a few of her rellies celebrating in France with some good plonk methinks..

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  11. Southern Raider (1,317) Says:

    GWW3 how about you inform us of any Labour candidates of merit. One rule you can’t nominate anyone who has previously been a lawyer, teacher or unionist.

    I’d suggest it will be a very short list.

    I suppose you do have some talented individuals like Brendan Sheenan sho is going to make siuch a positive difference to NZ.

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  12. Alces (310) Says:

    Next question….Has Amy ever made a dollar in a market or is she merely a taker of fees?

    Resume indicates fee taker.

    Important questions for the Party of Free Markets……….

    [Sigh, so quick to question. As it happens Amy has been a director of tourism, technology and rural services companies - which all make dollars selling things people want]

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  13. Alces (310) Says:

    That’s just peachy Dave….

    Another question tho….Is Amy just another one of those socially conservative but economically socialist discontinuities that typify general National politics?

    [DPF: Tell you what, ring her up once she has a website, and ask her, rather than just apply stereotypes at someone you have never met. For fuck's sake you need a life]

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  14. Dressed To The Left (48) Says:

    If the speech was Prime Ministerial then it was probably pretty crap.

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  15. Grant Michael McKenna (1,129) Says:

    When I read the summary with the statement that one speech was “Prime Ministerial” I too thought that that was a statement of its ineffectiveness, just as Dressed to The Left said above.

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  16. big bruv (11,251) Says:

    DPF

    Go easy on these fucking pinko idiots, it is some time sine they have seen anybody new come into their party with any talent, they just do not understand what real ability looks like, you only have to look at the post made by GWW to understand that.

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  17. helmet (804) Says:

    She’s a fox.

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  18. Alces (310) Says:

    Ah Dave….You and the National establishment are perhaps reacting with recognition to my description?

    It’s why you guys are regarded as the Right Wing of the NZ Labour Party.

    Need a life? Oh dear…….a bit sensitive there mate?

    8:21 doesn’t sound like you Dave…..a panicky stand in, perhaps?

    More questions to come.

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  19. Michael E (274) Says:

    Unlike the other major party, the members votes count for a lot more than 1 delegate and an extra vote in a eight member panel (with HQ deciding 4 delegates and the local electorate executive deciding the other 3). Plus National can’t bus in union members to hijack the local membership.

    If Amy Adams won in such a big contest in a safe National seat, then odds on she’ll be a bloody good MP.

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  20. Alces (310) Says:

    Oh yeah….”Dave” deleted my post that basically said, in reply to…

    “Sigh, so quick to question.”

    Alces said: “I guess being “slow to question” is a virtue.

    I asked whether Amy is just another Nat socialist.

    My pun, alas, was offensive.

    [DPF: Yes and 20 demerits for repeating it]

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  21. Alces (310) Says:

    Wanker

    [DPF: And another 20 demerits]

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  22. Alces (310) Says:

    Do an OE Dave …it’ll broaden the mind.

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  23. getstaffed (9,188) Says:

    Nice – Alces demonstrating the on-line “How to win friends and influence people” technique.

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  24. Alces (310) Says:

    Bugger….you may be socially conservative and an economic socialist at heart….

    But I see the above stands.

    So there are some Voltaire genes as well.

    Give yourself a fairy clap.

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  25. Right of way is Way of Right (1,054) Says:

    Oh my, a Mother in Politics? But how can she, I mean, Helen Clark avoided having children to uneccesarily clutter her life up, so how on earth can she manage this.

    Seriously, it’s great to see people with life expereince making a stand, rather than those who have simply walked the halls of academia and “think” they know how things should work!

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  26. horisthebear (53) Says:

    I was there and listened to all the speeches. Amy and Alex in my view spoke the best on the night.

    But much of the work was done prior to the meeting with hundreds of delegates eligible to vote.

    Amy will be a great addition to the National Caucus. Alex is a great guy too and though he has missed out this Election I am sure he will be back to contest a nomination somewhere in 2011. All the Candidates had put in a huge effort over the last few months and it showed on the night.

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  27. Alces (310) Says:

    One more question…..

    Is Amy another highly structured ex school captain desperate in her desire to organise the less fortunate?

    Join Labour sweetie.

    We free men want none of it.

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  28. Alces (310) Says:

    Wanker…re 9:31

    [DPF: And that is a one week ban]

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  29. Nomestradamus (2,403) Says:

    Alces:

    I gather these are Amy’s credentials:

    Amy is a bit of a super-woman. She is in her 30s and manages to be a mum to two kids, a lawyer, a lobbyist for the NZ Health Trust, helps with the farm, chairs the local school board of trustees, is a director of various companies and oh yeah is training for triathlons.

    Let’s pretend for a moment that you’d like to stand for public office. What attributes would you bring to the table?

    DPF:

    Could you briefly outline the nomination process – presumably it’s about more than having the sexiest CV and, at each selection phase, delivering the most presidential-like speech?

    [DPF: To win selection, you need to be nominated by ten local members, approved by the Board, get past pre-selection committee which does in depth interviews. Then you contact and meet several hundred delegates, travelling through Canterbury for several weeks to do so. And then speak at and answer questions from the floor at three meet the candidates meetings. And then finally speak at and answer a question from the President and Leader at the final selection meeting]

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  30. Alces (310) Says:

    Please be my guest….nothing I can say will disrupt your Kiwi thumb sucking.

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  31. 3-coil (1,149) Says:

    Had a bad weekend Alces?

    Cup of cocoa and an early night might be best for you.

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  32. voltaire (42) Says:

    Alces, I have decided to comment after your invitation, it does seem to me that you are somewhat muddled in your thinking my namesake Voltaire is quoted as saying “Si Dieu n’existait pas, il faudrait l’inventer” (“If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him”) whereas you appear to be saying “Amy does exist so it is necessary to denigrate her”

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  33. Dressed To The Left (48) Says:

    She’s a fox.

    She looks pretty damn ugly to me. Does it matter?

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  34. dime (6,425) Says:

    Dressed To The Left – what if we had Helens people airbrush her pic??? wonder if they will run with that same pic this tme round..

    anyway, dont know why i commented on such an inane post… my bad

    looks like a great candidate. National have some quality people!!!

    Last election i managed to convert 3 people to national – i just emailed just told them to check out the MP section of both sites. its really no contest.

    Its a shame only a select few get media time.

    How bout a televised debate – 30th on the national list compared to 30th on labours list. guess it wouldnt be fair!! (im too scared to look at what constitutes 30th in labours list)

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  35. GPT1 (1,969) Says:

    How’s your shoulder Alces? That chip not chaffing too much?

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  36. BlairM (2,048) Says:

    Well as far as blonde Nats go I was thinking of Marilyn Waring, Jacqui Dean, and Katherine Rich, all of whom have been a pack of wets, and in Dean’s case, a nasty authoritarian conservative.

    I want to see an army of dry Ruth Richardsons elected to parliament. I am simply asking if Amy is one of those, or one of the former.

    [DPF: Alas I have not had a chance to apply the ideological purity test to Amy. However you might like to note she was one of the people responsible for requiring complementary medicines having to go through a bureaucratic Australian regulator - now in that she was backed by ACT, National and Greens so who knows where that lies on the St Ruth scale :-) ]

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  37. Jim (313) Says:

    Crikey! So much bad karma for a post which is at worst; dull and uninteresting, and at best a positive event for Amy Adams. Chips on shoulders exposed for all to see.

    Thanks for the dash of humour, GWW3:

    Did they burn the ballot papers to give off white smoke.

    I’ve always found that funny – and I’m Catholic (according to the official records – but that doesn’t stop me from laughing at it).

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  38. Manolo (10,202) Says:

    “She looks pretty damn ugly to me. Does it matter?”

    Oh, you prefer boys, don’t you? :-)

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  39. Dressed To The Left (48) Says:

    [Deleted by DPF and 50 demerits]

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  40. Tauhei Notts (1,294) Says:

    You can put Superman or Wonderwoman up in Selwyn for National; and they will win the electorate.
    The National Party cannot comprehend that it does not matter how much they win by;
    IT IS THE LIST VOTE THAT COUNTS
    We have had four M.M.P. elections and that simple message still has not penetrated their brains.
    Please allow me to repeat that message;
    IT IS THE LIST VOTE THAT COUNTS.

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  41. Jack5 (3,073) Says:

    What a refreshing choice after Connell!

    Adams is obviously bright and energetic, and it’s good to have someone with a link to the export-farm sector which continues to be the economic backbone of the country despite all the subsidies and Government attempts to create alternative staple industries.

    It’s even better to have another heterosexual mother in a Parliament where lesbians are disproportionately represented. We need more mothers in the House of Representatives to balance what has become a national apathy about the needs and often plight of families and children.

    Nice one Amy, we’ll hear a lot more from you.

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  42. Dressed To The Left (48) Says:

    [Deleted by DPF and 50 demerits]

    I’m sorry, what was your position on Grand Theft Auto again? What’s that word starting with H again?

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  43. Redbaiter (13,197) Says:

    “Amy is a bit of a super-woman.”

    Going by the acrimony on this thread, she’d need to be.

    “She is in her 30s and manages to be a mum to two kids, a lawyer, a lobbyist for the NZ Health Trust, helps with the farm, chairs the local school board of trustees, is a director of various companies and oh yeah is training for triathlons.”

    Obviously a very energetic woman.

    “It has been great to see so many good people being selected as candidates.”

    Well, I dunno if its great until I know something of her politics. Is she going to be a Reagan/ Thatcherite type of politician (government is the problem not the solution) or a Blair/ Clinton type (more government is the solution to every problem.)? Being as its the National Party, one doesn’t really know, does one?

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  44. Mike Readman (335) Says:

    How the heck did somebody like Gerry Brownlee get selected to be the Ilam candidate, never mind become Deputy Leader of National?

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  45. JSF2008 (422) Says:

    A REAL LADY at long last , who is a hard working typical normal female, pity im in dunny/ies electrote a damn waste of space,COMMFY in his lifetime seat, YOU GO GIRL,. CONGRADULATIONS :)

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  46. JSF2008 (422) Says:

    sorry slightly of topic DF but at this exact momenent due to a TV anouncement WATCH THE ARSEHOLE LESBIAN CHINACOM LOVING LIARBOUR SUPPORTERS FACES WHEN THEY FILL THEIR ELDERLY HEAPS OF SHIT UP AT THE PUMPS,YOU GO FUCKWIT CULLEN (DISTROY THE COUNTRY ) you waste of space and air???? :) :)
    ps CULLEN I HOPE YOU GET PILES SITTING ON MY TAX TAKE, sorry for shouting but the left are halfwit deaf idiots so you have to get their notice sorry Mr Farrar) , but rubbish annoys me .DONT VOTE LIARS AND LIARBOUR
    i wish we could do what the French public do to usless govts. THE CHOP :)

    [DPF: That is 30 demerits for a mixture of off topic and over the top abuse]

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  47. Jack5 (3,073) Says:

    Mike Readman wrote: “How the heck did somebody like Gerry Brownlee get selected to be the Ilam candidate, never mind become Deputy Leader of National?”

    The answer is that the people in the Ilam electorate obviously liked him. He didn’t get there from the party list.

    Gerry leaves for dead Cullen, Cunliffe, Parker, O’Connor, Anderton, Dalziel, Helen Davis, and Co.

    If he had a B.A. in sociology or Pol. “Science” rather than a practical background, of if he was a cross-gender dresser, the chardonnay socialists would have tried to recruit him first.

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