Climate Change ETS Bill reported back

June 16th, 2008 at 12:38 pm by David Farrar

The Government’s (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) bill has been reported back by the Finance and Expenditure Select Committee.  It is 328 pages long and has over 1,000 amendments which means the Government will of course try and pass it as quickly as possible.

Even the commentary to explain the changes takes up over 50 pages. This is the biggest change to our economy since GST I would say, and it is silly to rush it through because of the election, instead of making sure it is right.

Look what happened to the Electoral Finance Act when they didn’t allow submissions on the revised bill? They are going to make the same mistake again. The changes from the original bill are significant enough that stakeholders should be given a chance to have their say on them.

It is worth remembering that the Government has already delayed the effective implementation of the until 2011 (except for Foresty), so we have lots of time to get the right. There is a difference between delaying the Bill and delaying the itself.

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6 Responses to “Climate Change ETS Bill reported back”

  1. getstaffed (8,040 comments) says:

    David, Select Committees are a minor pot-hole on the road of this Labour government doing whatever the hell they so desire.

    We should expect that only changes inconsequential to that desire will be attended to, and the rest simply ignored.

    Such is the hubris of our ‘Born to Rule’ leadership.

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  2. Inventory2 (9,379 comments) says:

    There’s a saying along the lines that people who don’t learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them. What better example of a mistake could there be than the EFA?

    Anyway, it’ll just be one more law requiring a repealing Bill in December – IF Labour can get the numbers to ram it through, which is still debatable.

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  3. goodgod (1,317 comments) says:

    “They are going to make the same mistake again.”

    Indeed they are. An inability to learn is what is going to keep them in opposition for 15 years. The political landscape has changed. National and ACT are the new Labour and Greens. New Zealand has come to the end of it’s free lovin’ 1960’s style decade.

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  4. IdiotSavant (66 comments) says:

    The changes from the original bill are significant enough that stakeholders should be given a chance to have their say on them.

    And so we have the ignorant sowing FUD for the self-interested…

    As someone who has actually read the bill, and the report, and knows enough about the policy framework to understand what is going on (all of which I doubt can be said of DPF), these changes are negligible. Yes, there’s a lot of amendments, but they’re almost entirely technical in nature, mostly focused around clarifying the wording and pinning down the Minister a little more. The greatest changes to policy are a decision to exempt HFCs and PFCs until 2013 (so small it doesn’t matter, and like waste, the sector is doing well), include coal-seam methane (as it had really just fallen through the cracks), and give extra deforestation units to Carter Holt harvey by ripping off Maori (OK, that’s actually significant). None of these are in any way major, and none justify any deviation from the normal Parliamentary process, let alone the extraordinary and unprecedented step of sending the bill back to committee (which, for the sake of the ignorant on this thread, is something which is no part of our normal Parliamentary process).

    But hey, why bother with facts when you can whip up a frenzy and dogwhistle the deniers?

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  5. gd (1,780 comments) says:

    This is another tax just like all the other taxes that have been loaded onto the citizens since 1999.

    An unethical and immoral government using unpropven science to take more money out of the pockets of the productive and give to the lazy.

    All disguised under a cloak of make believe and deciept

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  6. side show bob (3,410 comments) says:

    Sounds like old IdiotSavant his his fingers in the pie. The EFS will effect everyone in this country but if one was to listen to IdiotSavant we should place our complete and utter trust in the fools that have blessed us with rather dubious bills in the pass. No thanks I/S, why should anyone in this country have any confidence that this bill will not be anything more then a total abortion. If we are to be inflected with this crap we should at least try to get it right the first time, I won’t be holding my breath.

    I guess it’s a waste of time talking to the Limbos they are a lost cause. Pressure must be brought to bare on their lacky partys. Will they find the balls to question this shit as it will doom us to third world status, I won’t be holding my breath.

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