A fun junket
July 11th, 2008 at 4:00 pm by David FarrarNow this sounds like a fun junket:
Associate Justice Minister Lianne Dalziel is learning first hand how a country with a reputation for heavy drinking is handling its alcohol problems.
I think this problem may require a lot more study!
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July 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I bet she took Dyson with her.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
so,,
The world is slowly – at a rapid pace now- becoming one under the banner of political correctness.
Even a huge nation like India is being santised and Americanised.
How they stop them worshipping cows and turning to Catholicism will be bizzarre to witness,,
But they got Mcdonalds in there I spose.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
It’s fair to blame to Scots (& to a lesser extent the Irish) for our nations booziness. Anyone care to argue with me?
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
“Mr MacAskill said he was pleased to bring her up to speed.”
Methamphetamines too?
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Did I see mention of a “Social responsibility fee?” Dear God! Sometimes I get close to losing the will to live. WAAAAAH ….
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
All she has to do is ask someone to ‘deal with’ Winnie and then watch. Surely!
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Did she travel to Scotland specifically for this purpose?
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Scotland has cured many of its alcohol problems by moving people onto heroin.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
They sent chronic here.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
“It’s fair to blame to Scots (& to a lesser extent the Irish) for our nations booziness. Anyone care to argue with me?”
Yes, coge. The heavy drinking that was a feature of colonial NZ was also a feature of other frontier societies. Do you have any evidence that the English settlers, for example, were less prone to heavy drinking than the Scots and Irish. You’d need to do an analysis where you held constant for occupation, and you would probably find that to the extent that Scots and Irish were in the heavy drinking category it is explained by their representation in the mining, forestry, etc, industries.
Also, NZ was settled when the Free Presbyterians were very strong in Scotland, and so many Scottish settlers didn’t drink much at all, if at all.
I’m far more interested in doing something about our present day problems with what is, let’s face it, an immature drinking culture. (It’s not as though we need to drink to stay warm, after all.) In the light of this, the trip sounds like a good idea. The “social responsibility fee” though I’m not at all sure about.
Have an good, abstemious weekend, everyone.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
didnt know “Bellamy’s” was a sovereign state now.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Last drinks please. Perhaps a metaphor for ‘one for the road’, for this ‘drunk-with-power’, lot??
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Paul,
Vote:The addicted realy do need some help.
“Last drinks please. Perhaps a metaphor for ‘one for the road’, for this ‘drunk-with-power’, lot??”
They will not get help from the voters.
One for the road? nope, those addicted to power are failing in a big way.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
lol, the idea that we ever needed to “drink to stay warm” — what amazing crap!!
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Jafapete – your tedious response drove me to drink but Helen Clark had my local bottle store shut down so I cannot walk to get my piss. Instead I had to drive across town, burning carbon like Cullen burns tax dollars when playing with trains.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Whadda you whinging about Brian…?? I have to crawl across town. Sheesh!
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
“It’s fair to blame to Scots (& to a lesser extent the Irish) for our nations booziness. Anyone care to argue with me?”
I go with Billy T James on this one speaking on his Scottish ancestry.
“Half of me wants to get drunk and the other half doesn’t want to pay for it.”
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
“Have an good, abstemious weekend, everyone.”
I think you mean abstentious, but I just found out continual is not a word. But I use it all the time.
No one notices it when i say it lol.
and its more original than text language.
Vote:July 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
jafapete,
If you want to do something about the present-day drinking culture, why not start with a snese of personal responsibility and willingness to face the consequences of individual actions? The current apologist attitude which difuses responsibility by attributing destructive behaviour to upbringing/socio-economic status/genetic vulnerability is used to excuse any and all immoral/destructive behaviour.
I bet you could even find a way to excuse extreme paedopheila as not the fault of the perpetrator but their poor childhood.
Vote:July 12th, 2008 at 3:20 am
‘I think you mean abstentious, but I just found out continual is not a word. But I use it all the time.’
Continual is a word. It means always going on, incessant or perpetual. As in ‘National’s continual criticism of Labour’s economic policy eventually won them the election’. It is often mistaken with continuous, which means continuing uninterrupted through time or space, unbroken. As in ‘despite a narrow victory in 2005, Labour’s reign was continuous over three terms’.
And although abstentious is a word pertaining generally to self-restraint, abstemious specifically relates to laying off the alcohol.
Vote:July 12th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Labour are good with the junkets. The gravy train is about to come to a screeching halt. What are the socialist parasite leeches to do then?
One absolute certainty is that Labour and its supporters are going to need a few stiff drinks on election night to cope with the new reality. Not for them the wheels of power. Only ignoble defeat and slinking off into the shadows to lick there wounds and contemplate what they have done to New Zealand that resulted in such a violent reaction by the voters against them.
Vote:July 12th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Unfortunately OECD I think you have way too much faith in the National Party. This slurping from the trough is now part of the culture of the civil service, right down to regional DHB’s, WINZ offices and Polytech’s.
Vote:I know of one regional poly where the tutorial staff have been hammered with their work loads (in some cases to unsafe levels) but the mangement/admin untouched. Overheads/admin costs at approx 65% of operating costs, HR dept of 6-8 staff etc. Must be a strange environment to work in with so many people not contributing to making the business profitable.
And/Or DHB staff on over 60K who do not actually know what they are supposed to do…’something to do with PHO’s’ …..
To sort this out it is likely that some sort of law rewrite will be needed to make it easier to remove these bludgers. It may happen but will take some years.
P.S. last time there was a cleanout the bludgers found jobs at the local councils, driving up rate payer costs and frustrations.
July 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
‘Continual is a word. It means always going on, incessant or perpetual.’
Heyy, thanks for that Mausism.
my tertiary tutor said it definitely wasn’t a word and claimed it sounded like I’d had a couple too many whiskies.
and he’s a journalism tutor.
He did give me a dictionary and I couldn’t find it.
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