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	<title>Comments on: Is this Labour&#8217;s Hikoi of Hope?</title>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-461110</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then theres the election itself.

Can Hulun convince the caucus and the party to go to the polls early while she is still in control?

I&#039;m picking as soon as the date is announced she&#039;ll be despatched alongside the history teacher.

Goff comes in steady pair of hands to try and rebuild public faith in the last month.

Either way the nats will romp home.

The big question is, will Hulun stand in Mt Albert if she is evicted from leadership onto the back benches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then theres the election itself.</p>
<p>Can Hulun convince the caucus and the party to go to the polls early while she is still in control?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m picking as soon as the date is announced she&#8217;ll be despatched alongside the history teacher.</p>
<p>Goff comes in steady pair of hands to try and rebuild public faith in the last month.</p>
<p>Either way the nats will romp home.</p>
<p>The big question is, will Hulun stand in Mt Albert if she is evicted from leadership onto the back benches?</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-461109</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour are toast.

National has a very good chance of being able to govern by themselves and will have good allies in the Maori&#039;s.

I think for whatever reason the greens will get a good whack of the party vote (lowest commond denominator and all that) and will be left as neuters again thanks to some whack jobs in the leadership.

Hulns leadership team i.e. her and mikhael must be watching their backs, dismal polls, widespread public rebellion etc

The night of the long knives is v.close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour are toast.</p>
<p>National has a very good chance of being able to govern by themselves and will have good allies in the Maori&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I think for whatever reason the greens will get a good whack of the party vote (lowest commond denominator and all that) and will be left as neuters again thanks to some whack jobs in the leadership.</p>
<p>Hulns leadership team i.e. her and mikhael must be watching their backs, dismal polls, widespread public rebellion etc</p>
<p>The night of the long knives is v.close.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460834</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dream on..!..oecd..

you are getting a lab/grn/mp party..

and that&#039;s gonna make you straighten-up

and fly &#039;right&#039;..

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dream on..!..oecd..</p>
<p>you are getting a lab/grn/mp party..</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s gonna make you straighten-up</p>
<p>and fly &#8216;right&#8217;..</p>
<p>eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460825</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with expat on how things will play out after the election.

Both Hels and Cullen will be finished as political entities in this country.  An excellent outcome for New Zealand.

I think Labour will wander around in the wilderness not knowing what it did wrong and consequently not being able to provide viable solutions to the electorate.  It will be a cake walk for John Key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with expat on how things will play out after the election.</p>
<p>Both Hels and Cullen will be finished as political entities in this country.  An excellent outcome for New Zealand.</p>
<p>I think Labour will wander around in the wilderness not knowing what it did wrong and consequently not being able to provide viable solutions to the electorate.  It will be a cake walk for John Key.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460820</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh..gee..!..that&#039;s quite &#039;clever&#039;..?..isn&#039;t it..?

the first 100 or so times..

um..!..is that what passes for &#039;clever&#039; debate/&#039;satire&#039;..amongst rightwing nutbars/nutjobs..?

is that it..?

(and i see you rely on that rightie standby..racism/&#039;furriner&#039;-bashing for your &#039;material..?..)

phi(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh..gee..!..that&#8217;s quite &#8216;clever&#8217;..?..isn&#8217;t it..?</p>
<p>the first 100 or so times..</p>
<p>um..!..is that what passes for &#8216;clever&#8217; debate/&#8217;satire&#8217;..amongst rightwing nutbars/nutjobs..?</p>
<p>is that it..?</p>
<p>(and i see you rely on that rightie standby..racism/&#8217;furriner&#8217;-bashing for your &#8216;material..?..)</p>
<p>phi(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460792</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hulun is going to get rolled soon - I can smell it.

When it happens, they&#039;ll take Mikhael out as well.  

Will that help Labour in the polls?  I doubt it but it will at least allow the laybore opposition to start afresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hulun is going to get rolled soon &#8211; I can smell it.</p>
<p>When it happens, they&#8217;ll take Mikhael out as well.  </p>
<p>Will that help Labour in the polls?  I doubt it but it will at least allow the laybore opposition to start afresh.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460791</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and that ’signifigance’ is exactly what..?&quot;

Well Phil, a truckie might get it given they have to have their wits about them to drive those rigs, but it doesn&#039;t surprise me to see its beyond the ken of a dope crazed parasitical and worthless watermelon like you who couldn&#039;t get off his useless arse or use his crippled and confused brain to save himself-

Kremlin, Nikita, KGB, Ukraine, Kruschev, Sputnik, Mikhael, Gulak, Troika, Vodka, Aparachik, Bolshevik, Cheka, Kommisar, Menshevik, Kulak, NKVD, Kalashnikov, Zek, Vostok, Katorga, 

So is that khorosho??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and that ’signifigance’ is exactly what..?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Phil, a truckie might get it given they have to have their wits about them to drive those rigs, but it doesn&#8217;t surprise me to see its beyond the ken of a dope crazed parasitical and worthless watermelon like you who couldn&#8217;t get off his useless arse or use his crippled and confused brain to save himself-</p>
<p>Kremlin, Nikita, KGB, Ukraine, Kruschev, Sputnik, Mikhael, Gulak, Troika, Vodka, Aparachik, Bolshevik, Cheka, Kommisar, Menshevik, Kulak, NKVD, Kalashnikov, Zek, Vostok, Katorga, </p>
<p>So is that khorosho??</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460779</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and that &#039;signifigance&#039; is exactly what..?

aside from an infantile attempt at &#039;satire&#039;..?

..that reflects more on the paucity of original thinking of most righties..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and that &#8216;signifigance&#8217; is exactly what..?</p>
<p>aside from an infantile attempt at &#8216;satire&#8217;..?</p>
<p>..that reflects more on the paucity of original thinking of most righties..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460775</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May- That&#039;s pretty cool. Truckies who perhaps not only read Kiwiblog, they also understand the significance of spelling those names with a K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May- That&#8217;s pretty cool. Truckies who perhaps not only read Kiwiblog, they also understand the significance of spelling those names with a K.</p>
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		<title>By: riki</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460765</link>
		<dc:creator>riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t wait till we get closer to the election

The anti smacking people are revved up

the truckies are revved up

The EFB people are revved up

The sensible sentencing trust are revved up

The only people happy at the moment are the Maori awarded the half billion

but they just need an excuse and they&#039;ll be revved up too.

This is way, way exciting!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t wait till we get closer to the election</p>
<p>The anti smacking people are revved up</p>
<p>the truckies are revved up</p>
<p>The EFB people are revved up</p>
<p>The sensible sentencing trust are revved up</p>
<p>The only people happy at the moment are the Maori awarded the half billion</p>
<p>but they just need an excuse and they&#8217;ll be revved up too.</p>
<p>This is way, way exciting!!</p>
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		<title>By: May</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460754</link>
		<dc:creator>May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A banner on one of the truckies (in Dunedin?) reads:

&quot;Klark and Kullen lust for your money. Thank them in November&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A banner on one of the truckies (in Dunedin?) reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;Klark and Kullen lust for your money. Thank them in November&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: labrator</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460728</link>
		<dc:creator>labrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernesto, the truckies gave you 48 hours notice, King gave them 0 hours whilst promising 28 days. I think Helen summed it up nicely with &quot;diddums&quot;. Also, I don&#039;t own a truck and I walk to work so park your car anywhere you like. I should point out that if I did own a truck and you did park your car in front of it I&#039;d ring the council and get them to have it towed, because parking there would be against the law. What law did the truckies break? I hate it when the boy racers clog the roads and stuff up the bus routes, doesn&#039;t mean I get to use force to get my way no matter how righteous I feel.

Someone above was right on when the said that this wasn&#039;t about the RUC price changes, it was about the lack of notice with complete disregard to workers and their families. I would have thought the lefties would be out their supporting the truckies but that was being a leftie used to be associated with being a worker or for workers rights, now it just seems that a leftie is anyone who blindly supports Helen. I think therefore you should all be called Helenites and stop giving the real lefties who contributed to the country a bad name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernesto, the truckies gave you 48 hours notice, King gave them 0 hours whilst promising 28 days. I think Helen summed it up nicely with &#8220;diddums&#8221;. Also, I don&#8217;t own a truck and I walk to work so park your car anywhere you like. I should point out that if I did own a truck and you did park your car in front of it I&#8217;d ring the council and get them to have it towed, because parking there would be against the law. What law did the truckies break? I hate it when the boy racers clog the roads and stuff up the bus routes, doesn&#8217;t mean I get to use force to get my way no matter how righteous I feel.</p>
<p>Someone above was right on when the said that this wasn&#8217;t about the RUC price changes, it was about the lack of notice with complete disregard to workers and their families. I would have thought the lefties would be out their supporting the truckies but that was being a leftie used to be associated with being a worker or for workers rights, now it just seems that a leftie is anyone who blindly supports Helen. I think therefore you should all be called Helenites and stop giving the real lefties who contributed to the country a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460591</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like go on record as saying whatever your opinion  may be of other posters, you should leave their fucking children and family out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like go on record as saying whatever your opinion  may be of other posters, you should leave their fucking children and family out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460587</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a case of Labour not being able to quit while it&#039;s behind.

The longer it waits for the election, the bigger the defeat.  Now is the prefect time to corner the &quot;sour grapes&quot; market as Labour supporter will be really unhappy for a long time to come when the see with their own eyes the massive defeat their party suffers.  Payback&#039;s a bitch!

It will be hard working decent New Zealanders blowing the raspberry at Labour come election day. :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a case of Labour not being able to quit while it&#8217;s behind.</p>
<p>The longer it waits for the election, the bigger the defeat.  Now is the prefect time to corner the &#8220;sour grapes&#8221; market as Labour supporter will be really unhappy for a long time to come when the see with their own eyes the massive defeat their party suffers.  Payback&#8217;s a bitch!</p>
<p>It will be hard working decent New Zealanders blowing the raspberry at Labour come election day. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460586</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting how so many rightwingers see censorship as one of their political goals..

i wonder if they are able to see the disconnect between this..and their oft-professed cries for &#039;freedom from tyranny!&#039;..?-

..or are they just too knuckle-dragging fucken dumb/ignorant/unaware to even see that..?

phil(whoar.co.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting how so many rightwingers see censorship as one of their political goals..</p>
<p>i wonder if they are able to see the disconnect between this..and their oft-professed cries for &#8216;freedom from tyranny!&#8217;..?-</p>
<p>..or are they just too knuckle-dragging fucken dumb/ignorant/unaware to even see that..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz</p>
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		<title>By: Buggerlugs</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460572</link>
		<dc:creator>Buggerlugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Campbell and Ralston used to spend their time in the TV3 Politcal press gallery office playing hide the sausage or corridor cricket.  Can&#039;t trust any journos.  Best to follow the Buggerlugs family motto - Save Yourself, Kill Em All</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Campbell and Ralston used to spend their time in the TV3 Politcal press gallery office playing hide the sausage or corridor cricket.  Can&#8217;t trust any journos.  Best to follow the Buggerlugs family motto &#8211; Save Yourself, Kill Em All</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460570</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s always Campbell to contradict them&quot;

Campbell is in fact as left wing as any of them, (a self proclaimed supporter of the Alliance/ Progressives, he only disagrees with Klark because she isn&#039;t far enough left) and TV3 too are scum to employ this unprofessional slimy little communist wingnut at the forefront of their political current affairs division at the same time as they promote themselves as the flagship of private enterprise broadcasting. Just another pack of lying propagandizing socialists in the same vein as MSNBC and CNN and so many others. (I didn&#039;t see his reports on the truck driver&#039;s protest.) Who needs pretenders like Campbell? As they become more and more desperately partisan they become more and more useless as objective sources of news and comment. Fuck em I say. Rock on the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s always Campbell to contradict them&#8221;</p>
<p>Campbell is in fact as left wing as any of them, (a self proclaimed supporter of the Alliance/ Progressives, he only disagrees with Klark because she isn&#8217;t far enough left) and TV3 too are scum to employ this unprofessional slimy little communist wingnut at the forefront of their political current affairs division at the same time as they promote themselves as the flagship of private enterprise broadcasting. Just another pack of lying propagandizing socialists in the same vein as MSNBC and CNN and so many others. (I didn&#8217;t see his reports on the truck driver&#8217;s protest.) Who needs pretenders like Campbell? As they become more and more desperately partisan they become more and more useless as objective sources of news and comment. Fuck em I say. Rock on the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460568</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is absolutely no reason for the gummint to own a television station. It always produces the same outcome, a group of propagandists who merely push the left wing viewpoint on every issue. These people (the TV One newsroom) actually have the front to call themselves journalists, when they are really nothing more than partisan advocates for the left. Like the &quot;journalists&quot; who write the news for Chavez and Mugabe, in their subservience to Klark they are poisonous to democracy and traitors to their profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely no reason for the gummint to own a television station. It always produces the same outcome, a group of propagandists who merely push the left wing viewpoint on every issue. These people (the TV One newsroom) actually have the front to call themselves journalists, when they are really nothing more than partisan advocates for the left. Like the &#8220;journalists&#8221; who write the news for Chavez and Mugabe, in their subservience to Klark they are poisonous to democracy and traitors to their profession.</p>
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		<title>By: riki</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460564</link>
		<dc:creator>riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Redbaiter,,

There&#039;s always Campbell to contradict them

He didn&#039;t get called a &#039;little rat&#039; for nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Redbaiter,,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s always Campbell to contradict them</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t get called a &#8216;little rat&#8217; for nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/07/is_this_labours_hikoi_of_hope.html#comment-460563</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RB
I noticed the same from Franchesca Mole. Couldn&#039;t believe what she was saying, particularly when their own PO poll showed 95% support

D4J. I feel deeply for his son, poor little bugger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RB<br />
I noticed the same from Franchesca Mole. Couldn&#8217;t believe what she was saying, particularly when their own PO poll showed 95% support</p>
<p>D4J. I feel deeply for his son, poor little bugger</p>
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