Peters still considering appointing Glenn Consul

July 15th, 2008 at 6:08 am by David Farrar

So much for ’s claims the affair has nothing to do with her. The NZ Herald this morning shows that just a few weeks ago Owen Glenn was still lobbying to be appointed NZ’s Consul to , and not only is he still writing to Winston Peters about it, but the pair appear to have met to discuss the possibility in Europe in May.

This makes the issue of whether or not Owen Glenn has made secret donations (as he claims to have done) to her Foreign Minister’s party, an issue for her as Head of Government. He is dealing with Peters not just as NZ First Leader but as Foreign Minister.

Will Winston claim the letter quoted in the Herald is also fabricated?

Will Helen publish a price list for other diplomatic positions?

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32 Responses to “Peters still considering appointing Glenn Consul”

  1. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,787 comments) says:

    The only thing Foreign to Peters is telling the truth.

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  2. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Or paying for his own meal.

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  3. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    repetitious I know but ……John Key should go for Winston. If he is successful and takes him out alll well and good. If Winston gets back in, and Winston needs national to keep his gravy-train running, he will soon forget and be all buddy-buddy with whomever can sign his pay-check. If Winston gets back in and goes with Labour, at least National can promote its oppostion as being principled and having value.
    But I think National should seriously blow Winston out of the water, even Labour would applaud.
    ps imagine if Helen were leading the opposition and National were in power with Winston’s support – after National refused to stand up and be counted over such issues of principle – she would have Key on a slow-turning (ahem) spit-roast over this.
    Come on ‘Keysey!’ get stuck in!!

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  4. Inventory2 (10,088 comments) says:

    I’ve just posted on this. Could it be that a portion of donations made by Glenn has a “With love from Winston First” card attached? This would serve two purposes – discharging (in his mind) Winston’s obligation to the taxpayer, and keeping the money out of NZ First’s books, hence Peters’s willingness to open them. Just a thought…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/07/winstons-big-mistake.html

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  5. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,787 comments) says:

    Can someone explain to me why Owen Glenn would continue discussions with a government which looks to be on it’s last legs? If he were to be appointed honorary consul to some distant archipelago, could the Gnats throw him out if they wished?

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  6. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    It is strange. Depends on whether the story about a consulship to Monaco is true and ifit is what does official gummint stautus mean (ie does it last forever for tax purposes cause monaco aint cheap even if you are tax exiled their), or are their other issues in play.

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  7. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    isn’t there a tradition of not messing with other parties’ appointments/perks..?

    for fear of tit-for-tat..?

    so no..national probably wouldn’t remove him..

    ..(not that they will get the chance/opportunity..of course..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  8. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Will Helen publish a price list for other diplomatic positions?

    Lol. Kiwis need to get used to the idea that corruption is not just handfuls of cash being exchanged under the table or in shady alleyways. The kind of corruption engineered by the current government is significantly more sophisticated, and the ‘cash for consol’ situation being just the tip of a very grubby iceberg IMHO.

    Against this backdrop it’s outrageous that the coiffured perpetrator could be in a position to decide our next government. If ever there was a case against MMP then we’re witnessing it unfold now.

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  9. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    Lee, you’re wrong. Peters is not the target, Clark is.

    What Key has to do is link Clark & Labour into all this muck, something that is becoming easier by the day.

    Also, Key should revoke his pledge that Peters could serve as Foreign Minister in his government. Peters is more trouble than he’s worth. I would have thought that was obvious to Key now.

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  10. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    its called killing with kindness gooner.

    the story will bury winnie.

    key doesnt need to be anywhere near that part.

    klark used to be adept at that but lost her hitmen smarmy and trev. then she lost the plot. h2 as well.

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  11. Brian Smaller (3,981 comments) says:

    It will be way out of my price range but I fancy the High Commisioner to Cook Islands job. The house is close to Trader Jacks and not too far from Muri Lagoon. And comes with a car.

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  12. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Guys I realise there is a lot to be said for the leadership style that does nothing and allows your adversaries to self-destruct. But it is still an election year, and once in a shile, we get to vote on merit. Any potential leader should state his position on particular issues so that the public can make a discriminating choice about whether to vote for him. On the basis of this situation, there is esentiually no difference between Clark of Key. So why would a wavering voter be attracted to him as leader?

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  13. tim barclay (886 comments) says:

    It keeps Glenn on-side regarding the “story” Peters is playing out over the donations scam. But I think Glenn who is no fool will realize that and if Winston is being too tardy about this, Glenn will drop a neutron bomb right in the middle of the election campaign, no doubt Glenn has made that clear.

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  14. PaulL (5,872 comments) says:

    Glenn has leaked this so as to remind Winston that he still wants the Consul position. It is pretty clear that if he doesn’t get it that he will destroy Winston. The question is whether Helen will give in and let Winston provide the position – in which case it would presumably mean there is dirt on her too. Could be very interesting.

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  15. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I am genuinely intrigued – if you were Keysey, what would you do about this?

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  16. Inventory2 (10,088 comments) says:

    Lee – as you observed earlier – Clark is the target. Peters is but a Weapon of Mass Distraction, a role he has successfully filled many times over. I’m still filled with dread by those figures trotted out over the weekend suggesting that Labour could form a government from a level of around 31%.

    Key needs to make sure that the message gets out – if you want to get rid of Labour, Party Vote National.

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  17. PhilBest (5,117 comments) says:

    This is a bit mischievous of me, but wouldn’t Owen Glenn be FUN as our consul in Monaco? Perhaps John Key could appoint him next year? (Hey, on balance, the Nats OWE Owen, don’t they?)

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  18. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    i agree that JK should stay out of this but the Nats should be assisting whoever is the whistleblower to come up with some more relevations.

    theres always someone who is pissed off enough to spill their guts if they are protected.

    After 9 years Crazy has amassed enough enemies within her tent that at least one of them will just need a little nudge to assist the current cause

    theres gotta be some hard evidence that can hang both Luigi and Crazy Noone is that teflon coated the coating wears off after time so Crazy and Liugi must have some gaps to be expolited.

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  19. RRM (9,420 comments) says:

    Bah! How dare a successful businessman fund parties the right doesn’t like? Oh for shame!

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  20. Barnsley Bill (973 comments) says:

    Brian you are too late for the raro job. Peters already “gifted” that to the empty vessel that Jones replaced. But I concur with your sentiment. 3 years on the public tit eating sailfish at trader jacks would be fantastic.

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  21. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Bah! How dare a successful businessman fund parties the right doesn’t like? Oh for shame!

    It’s called corruption. c-o-r-r-u-p-t-i-o-n. and it effects the left and the right equally, but usually in proportion to the amount of time spent in control of the treasury benches.

    The sun is well and truly blotted out with all the corruption pidgeons coming home to roost just now. It must be quite horrific for the ‘labour good, national bad’ drones to watch. (stretch)… pass the beer nuts please

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  22. RRM (9,420 comments) says:

    Careful with the C word! – When I suggested the other day that John Key’s mates at Merrill Lynch knowing all about National’s plans for ACC before everyone else does is also called corruption, the Blog Owner did not approve!

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  23. natural party of govt (461 comments) says:

    Clearly Mr Peters is at fault for lying about the donation – he should have funneled them through anonymous trusts like National does – or perhaps that is what he did, then by National’s standards he is not lying.

    However the whole consul for Monaco is non-issue. Mr Glenn is the most over-whelmingly qualified candidate for unpaid consul there is.

    He can look forward to a stream of backpackers seeking help and document replacements when wallets and passports etc have been stolen from backpacker hostels.

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  24. PaulL (5,872 comments) says:

    NPOG: National don’t know who donates to those trusts. If you have any evidence to the contrary, furnish it, or retract your allegation.

    From the context of Owen Glenn’s e-mail it would appear that Winston did know that Owen donated to him. And that Winston has lied about it. It is hard to tell without Owen coming out and telling us all what actually happened, on the face of it it sounds bad for Winston. My prediction is that once Owen is confirmed as Consul in Monaco he’ll suddenly remember that he didn’t donate at all. What will that tell us?

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  25. natural party of govt (461 comments) says:

    “NPOG: National don’t know who donates to those trusts. If you have any evidence to the contrary, furnish it, or retract your allegation”

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    I almost offered myself to be honorary consul in Iceland when I was living there. Its the most meaningless post in the entire world. If anything it suggests very commendable voluntarism and patriotism on the part of people who undertake it

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  26. reid (15,907 comments) says:

    Lee C: “I am genuinely intrigued – if you were Keysey, what would you do about this?”

    That’s easy Lee, announce now, that immediately after the election, because of recent concerning events, the processes followed, all relevant documentation and the official rationale, for all government appointments in the last 6 years, will be published in full with the minimal possible redaction on the internet. Procedural requirements and standards of openness and transparency, for all political appointments would be codified into law, breach of which would result in harsh penalties including significant ($100k+) fines and mandatory imprisonment.

    I don’t see any downside to Key here. I’m starting to get a bit concerned that he hasn’t yet made an entry into this gift from heaven however.

    Murray McCully is a very good player, but is he a good strategist. He completely let Brash down, for several years running, that’s at least 730 days. Brash went down and down and nothing he did worked, and who was his adviser? Now he’s still there, advising Key? Crikey.

    I don’t get it. There are other people available.

    Or I’m completely wrong and Crosby-Taylor are the real advisers and they’re saying, don’t get involved, keep yourself clean.

    It’s one of the two.

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  27. big bruv (13,209 comments) says:

    RRM

    “Bah! How dare a successful businessman fund parties the right doesn’t like? Oh for shame!”

    Lets swap a few words around here aye Comrade, how about we give this a crack?

    “how dare a few successful businessmen (who also happen to be religious) fund parties that the left do not like”……….when they do you bring in the EFA to stop the bastards yet when one of your own left wing luvvies tosses a huge wad of cash your way you give him a gong and offer him a seat at the cabinet table.

    Typical left wing corruption.

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  28. RRM (9,420 comments) says:

    Bruv – I quite Like NPOG’s take at 5:56 on what the corrupting Mr Glenn is buying himself!

    Also, on your EFA thing – If it really is tit for tat then why doesn’t Our Hero Mr John Key take a leaf out of the insidious, opposition-crushing leftie book and push for a bill that will either Out or else thwart Mr Glenn’s endeavours?

    Or, if any actual WRONG has been committed, perhaps he could just get the police involved?

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  29. big bruv (13,209 comments) says:

    RRM

    Why not just admit that you support the left having big donors but you hate the idea of the right have access to the same thing, why not admit that you do not like the idea of a level playing field?

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  30. gee90 (92 comments) says:

    John Key has ruled out having Roger Douglas in his cabinet (“I’m buggered”, etc). But he won’t rule out Winston Peters.

    And yet, after the election ACT will be there in Parliament, and NZ First won’t be.

    Great strategic minds must be at work here, because it’s gone way over my head.

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  31. PaulL (5,872 comments) says:

    John Key has no need to attract ACT – they have nowhere else to go. No downside in ruling out Roger now, is there. On the other hand, ruling out Winston could be a really really big mistake. The man is a chameleon, he always pulls something out of the bag. Betting against him has always proved to be a bad idea – maybe this time is different, but I don’t think that John Key has need to gamble on it.

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  32. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,810 comments) says:

    What a corrupt government we have in New Zealand at this point in time. All this corruption will be swept away with a change of government in November. That time can’t come soon enough.

    It would be beneficial to the country if ACT were to make up a strong part of the next government. They have the experience to pull New Zealand out of the recession it is currently experiencing. It also looks like inflation is currently running away on the Reserve Bank.

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