A 100 person poll in Tauranga

August 29th, 2008 at 11:30 am by David Farrar

Just been e-mailed a story from the Bay of Plenty Times. It is not online. They did a “snapshot survey” of 100 voters in Tauranga. Now 100 gives a 10% or so margin of error and it isn’t strictly scientific as it is of people who happened to be out on the streets. But as the results are so extreme, it is not without some news value. On the electorate vote, the responses were:

  1. Simon Bridges (Nat) 53%
  2. Undecided 18%
  3. Anne Pankhurst (Lab) 16%
  4. Winston Peters (NZF) 12%
  5. Larry Baldock (Kiwi) 1%

And this was done before Owen Glenn revealed Winston Peters solicited the donation from him!

I did not think it was possible to score third behind Anne Pankhurst, who is quite reviled in Tauranga due to her local body career. But he has done it.

And can the Kiwi Party stalwarts now shut up about how Larry may take the seat as a dark horse candidate.

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20 Responses to “A 100 person poll in Tauranga”

  1. kiwipolemicist (393) Says:

    Winston is finding out what happens when you foul your own nest. What amazes me is that one in eight people still want to vote for him, but a street poll on a Friday morning is likely to pick up a higher percentage of elderly folk and people who are less than politically astute. Helen & Winston have one feature in common: a personality cult.
    http://www.kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com

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  2. AM2 (32) Says:

    Am I the only one who would miss Winston if he was no longer in Parliament?

    Come on guys admit it you would!

    [DPF: Not at all. In fact if this happens, I will probably be in hospital for a month recovering from several litres of shots]

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  3. chfr (126) Says:

    AM2 Not at all. He adds nothing to Parliament at all. What are you on??

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  4. Murray (8,832) Says:

    No.

    Your parliament might exist for your personal entertainment as some kind of hyper expensive “reality” TV but not for the rest of us.

    Our grandfathers didn’t get conscripted by people like this to take the Med Holiday From Hell so politicians could behave like 4 year olds at out expense.

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  5. musthafabuck (100) Says:

    AM2… yup you would be the only one. How lonely for you.
    WP will not be missed by anyone here in Tauranga.. Other than the non thinking sycophants, & who cares about them!
    Woo hoo he’s gooorrnnn.

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  6. Mr Dennis (348) Says:

    Thanks for pointing it out. The Kiwi Party is very well-intentioned I am sure, but they really don’t have a chance of getting this seat, or crossing the 5% threshold. They may however take votes away from the Family Party (the conservative party with a reasonable chance of actually getting in), Act and National (both of whom will certainly be in after the election). In so doing they will waste conservative votes, increasing the influence of Labour and the Greens in the next parliament – exactly the opposite of what they are intending. It is most unfortunate that Mr Baldock and Mr Copeland chose to pursue this party, but they have done, all we can now do is to persuade voters to put their votes where they actually have a chance of being counted.

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  7. Ed Snack (943) Says:

    Come on, I understand where AM2 is coming from. This has been the most enjoyable political theatre since watching Rob suck the Kumera in 1984. Not the funniest, that was the on-camera rant about “crimpoline suit and skoda brigade…”by Pat Hunt in I think 1978. If we didn’t have Winston, who else would have brought Helen Clark to this impasse ? Winston is good for something else too, he is a very good bad example.

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  8. Murray (8,832) Says:

    Whats “enjoyable” Ed is seeing corupt and bad politicians being given the bums rush.

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  9. Viking2 (9,469) Says:

    No doubt they must have found all of Winstons supporters waiting for him to arise at the RED SQUARE.(oh that’s right its not called that anymore is it.) at the Down Town Mall where they do these things. Of course that is exacerbated by the left wing press we now have. We used to have a right wing privately owned really good newspaper but now we have what is an excuse for one with its clutch of lefties as journo’s. All thanks the the Heinz king.

    As one who gets around lots of people I haven’t had anyone in months say they support Peters and as of yet I have not seen anywhere that it is official that he put his name forward for reelection. Now like he always does he made a lot of noise by telling his remaining supporters that he was back but still we have no confirmation of his nomination. Strange but true. He was always going to quit be didn’t want to say so. Why doesn’t someone ask his Electorate Chair to confirm if he has been selected. Could be interesting. Anyone got a reporter who can ask for comment.
    By the way we haven’t seen the NZ First list of anyone yet!!!

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  10. stephen (4,063) Says:

    And can the Kiwi Party stalwarts now shut up about how Larry may take the seat as a dark horse candidate

    Frickin’ HILARIOUS

    Mr Dennis, entirely possible that those Kiwi party voters usually vote “New Zealand Family Rights Protection Party” (1,178 votes) or “Christian Heritage NZ” – they still got 2,821 votes with Capill in the slammer! Looks like there’s more than a bit of competition for the vote you’re looking for…

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  11. Mr Dennis (348) Says:

    Stephen, I feel that the Family Party has a good chance of getting in. You do not. But if Kiwi cannot gain an electorate seat these votes will be wasted. Although I would of course prefer them to go to Family I would be much happier that they went to Act or National than that they were entirely wasted, as I said in my post. I don’t see how anyone wanting more representation from the right could disagree with that.

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  12. side show bob (3,660) Says:

    Heard the head of Grey power on the radio state they would stand by Winnie as the man is pure as driven snow and could do no wrong. Fuck, I hope I don’t get as senile as these old fools when I get to be their age. Winnie to these folks is a cult figure and not even a guilty conviction would sway them from their idol worship. It’s all very well to stand by your man but this sort of loyalty is blind stupidty. I fear that if the poodle gets put down all these old coots are going to comit mass suicide, just like Jonestown.

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  13. stephen (4,063) Says:

    Mr Dennis, going on what i’ve heard from the FP (well, you), they have a good shot at the Mangere seat. But the FP would say that. A dark horse at best (as it sounds like they’ve been putting in the groundwork), until I see some Mangere polling (does that even happen, I wonder). Interesting, certainly.

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  14. Chuck Bird (3,443) Says:

    Mr Dennis please show us the evidence to support your claim.

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  15. Ross Miller (1,539) Says:

    Is it true that the single voter to declare in support of the Kiwi Party was Larry Baldock himself?

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  16. PhilBest (5,060) Says:

    Forgive me for continuing to find it depressing that so many people DO still support Winnie. I mean 12% in Tauranga, or 5%+ nationwide, is still too high. And 30%+ for Hulun is just sickenening, it makes me wonder who ARE all these completely sick in the head people with which I must be surrounded in society every day……..

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  17. PhilBest (5,060) Says:

    # AM2 (21) Add karma Subtract karma –10 Says:
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    “Am I the only one who would miss Winston if he was no longer in Parliament?

    Come on guys admit it you would!”

    [DPF: Not at all. In fact if this happens, I will probably be in hospital for a month recovering from several litres of shots]

    Admit it, DPF, Winston’s continued existence in Parliament all these years has been like swallowing a dead rat every day……

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  18. Caniwi (4) Says:

    “Mr Dennis, going on what i’ve heard from the FP (well, you), they have a good shot at the Mangere seat.”

    Taito owns Mangere. The destiny/Family Party are wasting their time there and without that seat they won’t register with no other seats or anywhere close to 5%. They seem to only get a bit of interest where there is a Destiny church. The Kiwi Party aren’t featuring very well in the polls ( if at all) but they do have 3 guys who have all been acting MP’s which isn’t too bad for a new party. I’ll be watching Tauranga and Larry Baldock.. and the Chinese vote in Epsom too.. Rodney might be in for a bit of competition again.

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  19. stephen (4,063) Says:

    You had me until ‘Larry Baldock’! Theres a Char-neez standing in Epsom??

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  20. Mr Dennis (348) Says:

    Chuck, I know we are doing well in Mangere based on unofficial information collected by the party. I too am waiting for a formal poll to “prove” this. The only reason we know how poorly Mr Baldock is polling in Tauranga is because it is Winston Peter’s electorate so there is a bob in it for the media to run polls there because of the current scandal.

    As soon as we have more comprehensive polling of individual electorates we will be able to get a far better picture of which parties have a chance of getting in and which don’t.

    Which other electorates is Kiwi standing candidates in? This doesn’t seem to be on their website, and only Baldock and Copeland are on Decision 08.

    If anyone is interested a full list of Family party candidates and electorates so far can be found at http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0808/S00069.htm

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