Listen to Doug

August 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

NZ Angels (they invest to assist start up companies etc) have been interviewing various parties about their investment policies. Their latest MP was Doug Woolerton. They state:

I was disappointed with Doug’s grasp of the issues – he didn’t seem to know much about how startup companies or investors think, nor about the taxation system or general finance. His answers to my questions were long on generalities and short on specifics, often seemingly hedging as if he was unsure of not only what to say, but what was being discussed. And I was completely taken aback by his use of obscene language in a podcast which would be permanently available to billions of Internet users globally. No hidden microphones here, everything was above board.

You can listen to the podcast at the link above. The language is indeed very coarse – amazingly so for an openly taped interview where it was known it would be made available on the Internet.

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23 Responses to “Listen to Doug”

  1. first time caller (381) Says:

    Well, no surprises there! They are a party of populists thriving on slogans and being rude to journos.

    The sooner they are given the big flick the better.

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  2. berend (1,387) Says:

    Indeed, highly unfit to play through the speaker. But this language probably increases their vote by another 0.5%.

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  3. Ross Miller (1,539) Says:

    Its all becoming a bit too much for R Doug W …. and the used car business is going south at a rate of knots so I hate to think what he is going to after the election.

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  4. GPT1 (1,952) Says:

    He is a wally to be fair.

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  5. homepaddock (414) Says:

    Does anyone in NZ First know anything?

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  6. roro(1) Says:

    always wondered who len was based on… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LDxEpkdnyQ

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  7. Lindsay Addie (1,049) Says:

    Doug = Idiot

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  8. RRM (7,264) Says:

    Be reasonable. If you were well-versed in “how startup companies or investors think” then would you be an MP, or would you be out there making serious cash?

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  9. gd (2,286) Says:

    Why be surprised You can count on the fingers of one hand the pollies who actually have a real grasp on business and how its works.

    Most of them get a glazed look on their face as soon as you get past the ABC stage Most of them still havent figured out the cause of the finance companies collapses.

    Mention APRA to them and at best most of them think of the Australasian Performing Rights Association rather than the Australian Prudential Regulatory Authority.

    Ask them what the latter APRA do and why its prevented the same occuring in Australia and yourve lost them

    Explain that in the Aussie context NZ finance company collapses would have translated to 100 companies and A$25 Billion and they have no idea what you mean.

    In short we have a Parliament comprised of financial pygmies

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  10. Rex Widerstrom (4,965) Says:

    Doug Woolerton’s answer to help small business people: shoe lifts (well they work for his leader).

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  11. Inventory2 (8,811) Says:

    So was Peters talking about Woolerton when he said “”Look in the mirror. I’m sorry but you’re a full flushing, un-risked, reconstructed moron and you’re welcome to vote for any party you like. I hope you don’t vote for mine”?

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  12. getstaffed (9,188) Says:

    What a twat. Puddle deep understanding and obviously the recipient of a quadruple commercial bypass. F minus. Start over

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  13. GPT1 (1,952) Says:

    Is worth listening to. He really is thick.
    What the hell is up with the in-dust-trees?
    “We should provide those things that government should provide.”
    On foreign investment:
    “She doesn’t want to sell it after grafting her ass off … she doesn’t want to give it away [wtf? Who said anything about giving it away], she might as well pack it in and spend her money on a bach at the beach…”
    Apparently New Zealander’s do not dream of selling their start up business for shitloads. Riiight…
    “…Otherwise we’re just a bunch of bloody people who are investing our ideas for the benefit of people offshore. There’s no fucking gain in that, that just bullshit. And, um, if China and outfits like that did that they wouldn’t be the success they are today…”
    “I don’t know damn-all (about broadband)”
    “Well you’re saying that it isn’t an incentive … well there you go then.”

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  14. heathcote (92) Says:

    This should be required listening for anyone considering voting for NZ First. (Are there any left?).

    The man is a moron. An imbecile. And he is/was president of the party? God help us all.

    I have never heard so much nonsense in years. InDUSTries indeed.

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  15. Penelope (69) Says:

    Oh, Inventory2, I recognise that comment. Suddenly, I feel honoured. Bemused was nice, but honoured is better!

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  16. Penelope (69) Says:

    I am horrified by the complete lack of knowledge of his portfolio. But, and this ain’t stirring, I’m not remotely shocked by his language. What’s with the prissiness of you guys? That is actually how Kiwis speak. It’s certainly how I speak when I’m being myself and being honest. Yes, I know, when working, I often have to be other than myself, but … I’d rather have a politician who was unsophisticated and honest than one who was sophisticately dishonest (not that I’m saying this is a reason for voting for DW!)

    There are things to be said for urbane sophistication, but there’s a shit load to be said for saying it as you see it – and the latter is what most Kiwis prefer, which is why people keep voting for NZF. They believe NZF are saying it as they’re seeing it. What they don’t realise is NZF is pulling a pretty sophisticated con job.

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  17. heathcote (92) Says:

    Penelope, if you speak how DW speaks, then you have a problem. It’s not how ‘Kiwis’ speak at all, perhaps you need to get out more. Most people can recognise crap when they hear it, and there was an awful lot of it about when DW was speaking.

    I’m glad I don’t work with you, if you are unable to be yourself. What nonsense. Woolerton is a tosser who covers his lack of intellect with waffle and profanities. If you can’t recognise that then you are no better than he is.

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  18. Penelope (69) Says:

    Heathcote – maybe you don’t understand the different concepts in my post. Let me spell them out for you in simple words.

    1. His lack of nouse (intellect – but that’s three syllables) horrifies me

    2. His language doesn’t.

    I don’t need to get out more. I don’t need to mix with more people. Because of that, I understand that his language is common (in every sense of the word). We are all common, in our own ways.

    You however, might need to if you don’t realise how common (in the sense of normal) his language is.

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  19. cubit (347) Says:

    The only thing Doug has to do in his political life is ask Patsy questions to his leader. In fact the leader even writes them for him. NZ First have to be the the greatest bunch of oxygen thieves ever let loose in the government of this country. The problem is that it only takes 5% of the voting population to give them unlimited supplies of oxygen

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  20. Razork (374) Says:

    Serious question.

    Was he drunk?

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  21. Rex Widerstrom (4,965) Says:

    Sadly – for him and for the country – that’s the real unvarnished Woolerton, Razork. Actually I’ve never seen him drunk… now you’ve raised the question, I can’t begin to imagine the result. Cow tipping? Sheep worrying? Raucous choruses of “99 bottles of beer on the wall”? The mind boggles…

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  22. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207) Says:

    Full marks to Rex for this Gem.

    “Doug Woolerton’s answer to help small business people: shoe lifts (well they work for his leader).”

    I nearly spilt my coffee!

    The other types of business advocates to avoid are consultants. These are the failed business types who come into your business and basically talk to your staff, and send you a report at mega bucks.

    They actually steel your watch in order to tell you the time!

    And the worst of the worst are Gummint sponsored Business Advisory types. Shiver.

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  23. 3-coil (1,146) Says:

    Woollerton is a complete imbecile.

    For starters, somebody should explain to him how the word “industry” is pronounced.

    I knew Winnie was propped up by a bunch of butt-kissing fools – but that audio is just plain scary!

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