Comments on: National loses in the hospitality stakes http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:32:46 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470220 philu Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:20:50 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470220 "..# philu (2545) --3 Says: August 2nd, 2008 at 6:15 pm wow..!.national reveals itself as ‘the borrow and spend’ party..eh..? go figure..!.. and how do the ‘dry’ righties feel about this extra strain on our economy.. ..at a time of major global/local economic meltdown.. they really are ‘yesterdays’ party/men’.. ..eh..? http://whoar.co.nz/2008/national-to-borrow-to-fund-tax-cutsthey-are-just-calling-it-something-else/ phil(whoar.co.nz) [DPF: And also 10 demerits for off topic.].." as you can see from the time i wrote it..it was my immediate reaction to the news of nationals' shell-game.. ("we won't borrow for tax cuts..we'll just give you tax cuts..and borrow for other stuff..that we wouldn't really have had to..idf we weren't playing up-the-ante-tax-cut/do/promise-anything-to-get-elected-game.. there was nowhere else to post it.. but whatever..! and hey..your off-topic demerits are arbitrary/inconsistant in the extreme.. ..i think it depends what time of the month it is for you.. ..and only given to 'lefties'..eh..? ..but..as i said..whatever..! phil(whoar.co.nz) “..# philu (2545) –3 Says:
August 2nd, 2008 at 6:15 pm

wow..!.national reveals itself as ‘the borrow and spend’ party..eh..?

go figure..!..

and how do the ‘dry’ righties feel about this extra strain on our economy..

..at a time of major global/local economic meltdown..

they really are ‘yesterdays’ party/men’..

..eh..?

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/national-to-borrow-to-fund-tax-cutsthey-are-just-calling-it-something-else/

phil(whoar.co.nz)

[DPF: And also 10 demerits for off topic.]..”

as you can see from the time i wrote it..it was my immediate reaction to the news of nationals’ shell-game..

(“we won’t borrow for tax cuts..we’ll just give you tax cuts..and borrow for other stuff..that we wouldn’t really have had to..idf we weren’t playing up-the-ante-tax-cut/do/promise-anything-to-get-elected-game..

there was nowhere else to post it..

but whatever..!

and hey..your off-topic demerits are arbitrary/inconsistant in the extreme..

..i think it depends what time of the month it is for you..

..and only given to ‘lefties’..eh..?

..but..as i said..whatever..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: expat http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470199 expat Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:01:08 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470199 Lefties are too busy getting righteous about the hedonism of others while they self flagellate with birch branches during collective discussions about neo-marxism and drought. Then they pair up and get very dirty after their foreplay (as above). Lefties are too busy getting righteous about the hedonism of others while they self flagellate with birch branches during collective discussions about neo-marxism and drought. Then they pair up and get very dirty after their foreplay (as above).

]]> By: expat http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470198 expat Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:58:43 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470198 Post 1987, currency fallouts etc. (20/5) - inflation = like I said a recession. Like the one heading our way now, and thank Hulun and Mikhael for not preparing for it. run along now, you're inside to much and may be overweight. Post 1987, currency fallouts etc. (20/5) – inflation = like I said a recession.

Like the one heading our way now, and thank Hulun and Mikhael for not preparing for it.

run along now, you’re inside to much and may be overweight.

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470194 philu Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:42:39 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470194 what do you actually mean by that.."..man-so-low..? phil(whoar.co.nz) what do you actually mean by that..”..man-so-low..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: Manolo http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470193 Manolo Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:40:28 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470193 "...but my experiences..during some heavy study/field work" Whoar, are you talking about advanced doctorate studies in .... baking? “…but my experiences..during some heavy study/field work”

Whoar, are you talking about advanced doctorate studies in …. baking?

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470188 philu Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:15:29 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470188 wow..!.national reveals itself as 'the borrow and spend' party..eh..? go figure..!.. and how do the 'dry' righties feel about this extra strain on our economy.. ..at a time of major global/local economic meltdown.. they really are 'yesterdays' party/men'.. ..eh..? http://whoar.co.nz/2008/national-to-borrow-to-fund-tax-cutsthey-are-just-calling-it-something-else/ phil(whoar.co.nz) [DPF: And also 10 demerits for off topic.] wow..!.national reveals itself as ‘the borrow and spend’ party..eh..?

go figure..!..

and how do the ‘dry’ righties feel about this extra strain on our economy..

..at a time of major global/local economic meltdown..

they really are ‘yesterdays’ party/men’..

..eh..?

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/national-to-borrow-to-fund-tax-cutsthey-are-just-calling-it-something-else/

phil(whoar.co.nz)

[DPF: And also 10 demerits for off topic.]

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470185 philu Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:11:04 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470185 it sticks in my ideological craw to say it.... ..but my experiences..during some heavy study/field work.. ..back in the day.. ..is that (generally speaking) rightwingers party harder/have better/more decadent parties.. ..than leftwingers.. ..whereas most righties have had that s.o.h. bye-pass.. ..most lefties didn't get a (serious) partying gene.. phil(whoar.co.nz) it sticks in my ideological craw to say it….

..but my experiences..during some heavy study/field work..

..back in the day..

..is that (generally speaking) rightwingers party harder/have better/more decadent parties..

..than leftwingers..

..whereas most righties have had that s.o.h. bye-pass..

..most lefties didn’t get a (serious) partying gene..

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: roger nome http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470179 roger nome Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:37:04 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470179 expat: Cumulative GDP growth was about 20% between 1991-1996. Plunk! http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/keygraphs/Fig2.html expat:

Cumulative GDP growth was about 20% between 1991-1996. Plunk!

http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/keygraphs/Fig2.html

]]> By: expat http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470174 expat Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:22:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470174 Go and play outside nome, I think you could do with some exercise. A lot of people struggled in the early 90's nome, its called a recession. Like the one coming our way now I'm afraid. Go and play outside nome, I think you could do with some exercise.

A lot of people struggled in the early 90’s nome, its called a recession.

Like the one coming our way now I’m afraid.

]]> By: roger nome http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470173 roger nome Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:18:51 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470173 "And that is so off topic it is 10 demerits" But the heading was about "hospitality and National". I thought it tied in quite nicely. But hey, I guess it reveals the truth about the National Party, so that can't be a good thing as far as you're concerned.. “And that is so off topic it is 10 demerits”

But the heading was about “hospitality and National”. I thought it tied in quite nicely. But hey, I guess it reveals the truth about the National Party, so that can’t be a good thing as far as you’re concerned..

]]> By: roger nome http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470169 roger nome Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:43:35 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470169 Heh - I've got a headline. "National screws hospitality workers". The average hourly wage rate in the hospitality industry went from being $15.20 in 1991, to $14.50 in 1996 (2008 dollars). And you idiots want these people back in power? http://bp1.blogger.com/_t8KNMT03MmI/SIaccCQtcoI/AAAAAAAAAD4/dqFNJsKsEEU/s1600-h/Wages.jpg [DPF: And that is so off topic it is 10 demerits] Heh – I’ve got a headline. “National screws hospitality workers”. The average hourly wage rate in the hospitality industry went from being $15.20 in 1991, to $14.50 in 1996 (2008 dollars). And you idiots want these people back in power?

http://bp1.blogger.com/_t8KNMT03MmI/SIaccCQtcoI/AAAAAAAAAD4/dqFNJsKsEEU/s1600-h/Wages.jpg

[DPF: And that is so off topic it is 10 demerits]

]]> By: Lee C http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470167 Lee C Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:41:15 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470167 Were you stoned out of your Brian, Brain? Were you stoned out of your Brian, Brain?

]]> By: Brian Smaller http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470128 Brian Smaller Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:46:56 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470128 I remember when I was a teenager in Mt Maunganui back in the 70s I used to go to Young Labour and Young Nat parties. The Young Labour parties were so damned despressing. Everything was about organising for peasant Ant Farmers in Guatemala or campaigning to get more for fruit pickers on the kiwi fruit orchards when (as a picker) we spent most of our days stoned of our faces). The Young Nat parties were fun. The people went to have a good time. Still didn't vote for them though. I remember when I was a teenager in Mt Maunganui back in the 70s I used to go to Young Labour and Young Nat parties. The Young Labour parties were so damned despressing. Everything was about organising for peasant Ant Farmers in Guatemala or campaigning to get more for fruit pickers on the kiwi fruit orchards when (as a picker) we spent most of our days stoned of our faces). The Young Nat parties were fun. The people went to have a good time. Still didn’t vote for them though.

]]> By: Adolf Fiinkensein http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470120 Adolf Fiinkensein Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:17:39 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470120 Oh dear, oh dear. Pita and Tariana would at least have put on a hangi and a keg. Oh dear, oh dear. Pita and Tariana would at least have put on a hangi and a keg.

]]> By: side show bob http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470119 side show bob Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:11:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470119 Whats wrong with National, sound like a bunch of tight arses. They should put a good spread on with a couple of kegs. Getting the message out is just as important as the message itself and the journos could make it hard or easy. I would rather have happy journalists releasing contentious policy then pissed off journos putting the same policy in a bad light Whats wrong with National, sound like a bunch of tight arses. They should put a good spread on with a couple of kegs. Getting the message out is just as important as the message itself and the journos could make it hard or easy. I would rather have happy journalists releasing contentious policy then pissed off journos putting the same policy in a bad light

]]> By: Rex Widerstrom http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470111 Rex Widerstrom Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:50:03 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470111 I had this row with Winston, whose antipathy to journos was such that at NZF conferences he didn't only want to deny them water but to seal the room and fill it with poisonous gas :-) Speaking as an ex-journo it's fine and dandy if you <i>know</i> there's to be nothing and it's BYO, but the usual thing at these conferences is that you join the queue for rubbery pastries and curling sandwiches with the delegates. Conferences (of the political and other sort) are usually held in these soulless "conference centres" in the middle of nowhere, so even walking to the dairy for a pie is out of the question. And look at it this way - would <i>you</i> sit and listen to politicians and would-be politicians primping and preening and set piece "policy debates" where the outcome is pre-arranged for hours and days on end for whatever a journo gets per hour?! I'd not only be demanding double time, but truffle-stuffed quail and a foot massage. I had this row with Winston, whose antipathy to journos was such that at NZF conferences he didn’t only want to deny them water but to seal the room and fill it with poisonous gas :-)

Speaking as an ex-journo it’s fine and dandy if you know there’s to be nothing and it’s BYO, but the usual thing at these conferences is that you join the queue for rubbery pastries and curling sandwiches with the delegates. Conferences (of the political and other sort) are usually held in these soulless “conference centres” in the middle of nowhere, so even walking to the dairy for a pie is out of the question.

And look at it this way – would you sit and listen to politicians and would-be politicians primping and preening and set piece “policy debates” where the outcome is pre-arranged for hours and days on end for whatever a journo gets per hour?!

I’d not only be demanding double time, but truffle-stuffed quail and a foot massage.

]]> By: radar http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470105 radar Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:34:36 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470105 Are journalists incapable of planning ahead? They can't fit a bottle of water and some sandwiches into their bag? How precious. Are journalists incapable of planning ahead? They can’t fit a bottle of water and some sandwiches into their bag? How precious.

]]> By: Buggerlugs http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470101 Buggerlugs Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:26:00 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470101 <i>Grumpy, hungry, thirsty journalists are not the sort I would want covering my conference!</i> More leeches unable to turn on a tap, bring their own, etc. If that influences their opinions, then they're even more base than I thought Grumpy, hungry, thirsty journalists are not the sort I would want covering my conference!

More leeches unable to turn on a tap, bring their own, etc. If that influences their opinions, then they’re even more base than I thought

]]> By: Lee C http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/national_loses_in_the_hospitality_stakes.html#comment-470090 Lee C Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:55:03 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/?p=25788#comment-470090 Haven't you heard of free enterprize? get onto KFC order a couple of family buckets and charge like the proverbial. Haven’t you heard of free enterprize? get onto KFC order a couple of family buckets and charge like the proverbial.

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