The Barack Obama Speech
August 29th, 2008 at 12:27 pm by David FarrarI’m off to the United States Embassy to watch Barack Obama’s acceptance speech. It is going to be an incredible moment, regardless of the fact I don’t like his policies. It is a milestone for the United States to have an African-American candidate for President, when just one generation ago they had segregation.
So offline most of the afternoon, but any breaking news I can blog from my blackberry. I’ve been doing that a lot this week.
I’m at the Embassy next week also for McCain’s speech. He should be announcing his Vice-Presidental candidate over the weekend, which will be fascinating. The choice of Biden doesn’t seem to have changed the polls much. I am picking a big spike after the speech today.
Oh one has to give Bill Clinton full marks in his careful use of language, where he declared Barack Obama the best man for the job of President of the United States. That is, well, just so Clintonian! Both can’t fault either of their speeches.
August 29th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I wonder if he could have said person
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Has been fascinating. Also interesting that the polls have closed – surely he will get a bounce out of the Clinton endorsements and his speech. Any picks on McCain’s running mate?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Bill Clinton’s speech was brilliant. The Dems needed someone to hit the Bush administration hard and he did just that. He had some great lines.
“Are those the family values the Republicans are so proud of…”
“And what about the war on science and the defence of torture…”
“And what about Katrina and cronyism…”
It was marvellous.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I would hardly call the man who gave us Mogadishu, “cigar moistening” and Sept 11 as his legacy a good endorsment of anything.
Who the fuck is HE to talk about family values for a start.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
You have a point on the family values thing, Murray, this is true. But 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. You can’t pin that – though try as you might as a rabid conservative – on Bill Clinton.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
NO radar any slight amount of knowledge about Sept 11 makes it clear that it was long planned and drawn out operation taking place during several years of Clintons time. No operation is planned, staged and then executed over aperiod of a couple of months.
It is was and always will be the Clinton Legacy. However much rabid socialists try to pin it on Bush.
Go argue about the moon landings if thats your specialty.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
There will inevitably be some bounce because the media have been slavishly following the Democrat’s convention as if it was an actual news story, even as American soldiers are dying to defend freedom int he Middle East.
But it will be dwarfed by the bounce that will come out of the Republican convention when John McCain outlines his vision for a better, freer world where America leads the free world.
My pick for McCain’s Veep = Tim Pawlenty. Young, intelligent, untainted by Washington and conservative. Just what the maverick needs.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
“NO radar any slight amount of knowledge about Sept 11 makes it clear that it was long planned and drawn out operation taking place during several years of Clintons time”
Then why don’t we pin it on George H W Bush as well? Or do you possess evidence that all the planning was conducted between 1992 and 2000?
If 9/11 is Clinton’s legacy, then 1,000,000 dead in Iraq is Bush’s.
And it has always amused me that the people who are so keen to moralise on Clinton’s failings never do the same with the serial philanders Newt Gingrich, Rudy Guliani, etc etc, who come from the party of family values. Why is that? I think I know.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
You think he’s still as much of a maverick as he was pre-race?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Oh, Radar, where does that figure of 1 million dead in Iraq come from, and how and when did they die?
How many people died in Iraq under Saddam while Bill Clinton was President, and there were U.N. Sanctions in place to “keep Saddam in his box”?
Read THIS excerpt from “The Black Book of Saddam Hussein”, written, incidentally, by the man who is now the Foreign Minister of France:
http://www.oheditions.com/spip.php?page=extrait&id_article=35
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Who are all the Bush-haters giving Murray negative Karma above? He’s RIGHT.
Fine speech, indeed, Clinton in his glass house carelessly chucking stones around…….
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
“How many people died in Iraq under Saddam while Bill Clinton was President”
And George H W Bush, and Ronald Reagan, and Jimmy Carter, and Gerald Ford et al.
“where does that figure of 1 million dead in Iraq come from…”
General accounts.
“…and how and when did they die?”
Through murder, bombings, etc, and they died from 2003 to now. They are still dying. They are dying because in Iraq the Sunni and the Shia hated each other, and the Bush administration removed the only thing holding them apart – Saddam Hussein. Once he was gone they were free to murder each other, and they took full advantage. It is a shame no one in the administration tried to find out about the sectarian hatred that existed in Iraq. Another failure.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Just watched Al Bore, he’s wintered well and still talks a load of shit.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
“Another failure.”
Another commie painfully observing Bush’s success and the demise of another totalitarian dictator and the establishment of a beachhead for democracy in the Middle east. Now for that socialist POS Chavez.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
You mean another beachhead for oil exports to the US, surely…?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Absolutely Agree PhilBest
The Sunnis and Shia’s hated each other just as much as they always have!
They didn’t need to kill each other because Saddam was keeping the numbers up or rather down at the whim and fancy of his own leanings .
Look at all the killings he did and anyone that tries to justify keeping Uncle Sam out is inhumane and sanctioning murder.
Saddam was an evil tyrant with no regard for life and so was Hitler both of them needed to be removed and at great cost both with lives and resources and sadly for nations the have reached this state there will always be co-lateral damage.
Peace is Won – not dreamed about.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
“You mean another beachhead for oil exports to the US, surely…?”
Another baseless allegation. All you people ever have. The Iraqi government is selling oil to everyone and is also honouring pre-invasion supply contracts put in place by Saddam Hussein with countries like China, India, Vietnam and Indonesia. There is a difference though. The citizens of Iraq are benefitting from this in a way they never did under Saddam. Currently, Iraq’s per capita gross domestic product is $2,500. Under Saddam, average individual annual income was less than $60. Why don’t you take your worthless remarks elsewhere? They might work on a dipshit half educated uninformed leftist site, but here they’re seen for the hollow bullshit they always are.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
References for those figures ($60 / $2500)….?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Get with the play Redbaiter. “In the 21st century Nations don’t invade other nations”
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Tell that to the country of Georgia, I believe they would beg to differ.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
While i still have a chance at posting ,i would say it was a GREAT speech in fact GREAT, mccain has the choice of 7 kitchens to read his speech , but Obama isnt a 70+yo OLD FART, who dosnt know his wifes wealth and properties, ie houses owned. GO OBAMA, a fresh YOUNG face, maybe he will bring pride back to old glory instead of the world pissing on it, John
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Obama’s statement to cut taxes to 95% of taxpayers obviously means increasing taxes for the other 5%. Sounds remarkably like Labour circa 1999!
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
JSF, you’re a loon.
Who would you rather have leading you, an arrogant elitist phD holding lawyer and ‘community’ organiser from a radical church who thinks he is too good to join the army, or a decorated war hero and prisoner of war who has many years of honourable service in the armed forces and the school of hard knocks? The terrorists slaver at the idea of an Obama victory – Hamas has endorsed him – but they fear McCain as much as they fear Bush.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Iraqi government is selling oil to everyone and is also honouring pre-invasion supply contracts put in place by Saddam Hussein with countries like China, India, Vietnam and Indonesia
A shame really. Democracies shouldn’t trade with dictatorships.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Adam, Georgia gets what it started, georgia thought it was beating a boy up kicking arse in the middle of the night bombarding a city at night ,but a BIGGER man stood up for the little boy and kicked the hypo loudmouth USA trained poddle Saakashvilisin in the arse BIGTIME, LOOSER ps they(georgia) probably have lost Poti, good second port for the Black Sea Fleet. Ha Ha
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This just in:
Portrayal Of Obama As Elitist Hailed As Step Forward For African Americans
Vote:http://tinyurl.com/69jas6
August 29th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Spider_Pig, he wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts for those earning over US$250,000 a year.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
JSF, as a fan of Russia it doesn’t surprise me you are also a supporter of Obama. He is the candidate favoured by Moscow just as John Kerry was
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
IMHO McCain will beat Obama Reason The economy and foreign woes especially Russia If Vlad keeps on rattling the sabres the swing voters will go with stability not a unknown quantity
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Obama promised a lot of things that will increase costs to everyone. I especially liked his teary eyed speech of how he will force insurance companies to take on perpetually ill people and provide everyone with the medical perks that cover senators. Of course, no mention of who will pay for all this, and the crowd wasn’t asking. In the unlikely event he’s elected, I can just see that same crowd, squashed under the financial weight of the promises, demanding answers.
Nobody asked, they just cheered. There was a new JFK in town and everyone forgot what happend to him and his brother. But weren’t the promises great? Didn’t you all feel special and dreamy.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Mr Farrar , take up the last 10 demerites to ban me as when i read the CRAP typed by pushmepullu about me , i feel that my limited educational skills HAVE NOT been tested by pushmepullu GOD what a laugh P its a speech not a test of your manhood ,whatever
Vote:BEST TO DIE BY DEMERITES STANDING THAN BE ON YOUR STOMACH WHIMPING, thats all folks goodbye
ps P the fuckwit georgian saakashvili started and LOST , so there
for all my faults Mr Farrar i really liked your blogg , enjoy
August 29th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
How old are JSF? You write like a gibberish thirteen year old.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
If McCain was elected…Hamas gets more volunteers. Similar parallel being environmental organisations experiencing a surge in membership when Reagan was elected.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Adam i could be older than you but not brighter and im sitting in 90 demerites ,my last demerites were decided on the 13.8.08 but posted yesterday???? ,so adam i might sound like a 59 yo ranting kid but i am already probably gone the same way as D4J, A walking erased dead person , like cancer it takes a while to strike (CHILDISH)crap demerites, theres got to be a better system on banning free thinkers, ie NON PUBLIC SERVICE PLEBES or you get monkeys jumping for the same banana, my thoughts Mr Farrar a PROUD BOOK PRINTER, epmu tradesman.
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Redbaiter bleated: “Currently, Iraq’s per capita gross domestic product is $2,500. Under Saddam, average individual annual income was less than $60.”
Could that have anything to do with the lifting of sanctions? Moron?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Redbaiter – as you’ve now had over an hour and a half to dig up a reference for those Iraqi GDP figures you quoted, (and thus prove they are real) and you haven’t, are we to assume therefore that they were “just lies” and “baseless allegations” and that “that’s all you ever have”?
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Too busy freedom fighting you [cut paste here]!
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Are there still free thinkers around or are they just dumb liarbor shitters, ,opps only shitters, stephen
Vote:August 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
JSF: Who are the free thinkers, again?
There’s a veritable LEGION that bleats about “the socialists this, the socialists that, GOD DAMN I hate the socialists…” safe in the knowledge that the crowd will back them up with their karma-sticks. And then there are a few (only a few) of us swimming against that tide!
But fair call, you are an awesome, awesome example of what I have to look forward to when I eventually grow up and stop being a dumb liarbore shitter
Vote:August 30th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Headline in today’s Herald – ‘Is JSF the new D4J?’
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