What, you mean like this:

# Hoolian Says: Oh piss off, LibertyScott, you great burke. There is little room on this blog for bigots like you.

In response to this?

The same Catholic Church that until the mid to late 1980s would move sadistic pedophile priests to new pastures when there was a complaint, and didn’t confront it until the previous generation of victims were adults savvy enough to confront this legalised club for perverts. The same Catholic Church that beatified Aloysius Stepinac, the archbishop of Zagreb when Ante Pavelic’s regime was inflicting mass murder and deportations on non-Catholics (something he later criticised to little effect). The same Catholic Church that made a fortune from Mother Theresa, spending next to none of the proceeds she attracted for the poor on improving their living conditions in her “homes for the dying”. The same Catholic Church that spreads fear in small children about what happens to them if they aren’t good, and tells them to be shamed about their naked body. The same Catholic Church that claims to be compassionate, but would rather let someone die a long painful humiliating death than have their wish exercised to end life quickly. The same Catholic Church that turned its back on its own philosophy to enter into the concordat with Nazi Germany in 1933 to give it legitimacy against communism.

When was the last time a given religion tried to prove the existence of god…or advocated doing so? The two are separate paradigms – one empirically based the other faith-based – naturally there is a greater reliance on unproven or self-evident assumptions in one than what there is in the other.

Back to politics:
Science takes us forward, whereas your party would take NZ backwards with blind beliefs akin to the Church.
You also use science when it suits ie would you not argue that there is overwhelming evidence of human-created global warming? But when science and/or economics does not suit, your Party simply ignores them.

I would strongly argue that many policies the Greens come up with are based on blind belief and no evidential or rational
basis. This is why the Greens are not taken seriously (even by Labour). The Greens should be an environmental party based in the centre of the political spectrum, not some deeply socialist party dressed up with alleged environmental credentials. This is why people like Ian Ewan-Street ended up leaving the Greens and this is why the Greens have no one to blame but themselves for their residence on the cross-benches and their very very limited policy concessions during 9 years of a centre-left government.

At least the Greens are well-meaning (perhaps with the exception of Sue Kedgely & perhaps Russell Norman), NZ First has had its nine cows and Winnie says he has none because his political career is coming to a horrific end.

That is, there can be no role for praying to a Pope, a Saint or the Virgin Mary.
Catholics form a weird sect that ignore the critical elements of the New Testament.
All this from an atheist!

You last sentence was unnecessary, considering your glaring ignorance about Catholicism.

Okay, I’m not religious or in any way superstitious. But I would point out that science, like religion, is ultimately based on axioms that must be assumed and cannot be proven. I prefer science because, assuming the axioms, there is a consistency of physical behaviour of matter and energy. Religion does not lead to such a consistency. But they are both based upon unproven and unprovable axioms.

No need to pay heed nor mind to medieval superstitious nonsense.

So why would you expect morality from such a gang?

So what’s your point? With homosexuality – you’re confusing what is morally right/wrong with what is legal/illegal?

What about sex before marriage, should that be outlawed? Eying a woman lustfully? Being angry at your brother?

You confuse what is morally right/wrong with what is legal/illegal. Most would agree that these are not the same.