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A party vote was called for on the question, That the Copyright (New Technologies) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.

Ayes 111
* New Zealand Labour 49
* New Zealand National 48
* New Zealand First 7
* ACT New Zealand 2
* United Future 2
* Progressive 1
* Independent 2 (Copeland, Field)

Noes 10
* Green Party 6
* Māori Party 4

Bill read a third time.
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http://theyworkforyou.co.nz/bills/copyright_new_technologies_performers/2008/apr/08/third_reading#28

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Debates/Debates/5/2/4/48HansD_20080408_00000860-Copyright-New-Technologies-Amendment-Bill.htm#page_15428

Anyway – why not just use this to shut down the Labour Party website?

What is it with NZ’s legislative experts that they are apparently so inexpert?? There clearly needs to be a massive overhaul of the departments coming up with this stuff. They must be staffed and managed by absolute incompetents. Labour party aparachiks?? ”

I think you’ll find that the Americans wrote this law.

Speaking as someone who collages regularly, I worry. The notice-and-takedown regime isn’t good either. See Media Law Journal, follow the trackback back to Kiwiblog

http://theyworkforyou.co.nz/bills/copyright_new_technologies_performers/2008/apr/08/third_reading

Sure, National didn’t sound happy with it, but they still voted for it.

National have always taken a strong stand against Labour’s anti-growth agenda, as incarnate in this law. What possible reason would they have to compromise it? Can you really see principled people like John Key, Lockwood Smith or Murray McCully voting for this? It just doesn’t pass the ‘bullshit’ test. Same goes for ACT. And as for the Greens… have they ever met a regulation they don’t like?

I would suggest talking to those who were on the floor of Parliament. I would not put it past Labour to doctor the Hansard record to try and make it look like they had broad support. They’ve done that kind of thing in the past.

And why didn’t we know about this before? I mean, I’m reasonably informed, but why wasn’t there a stink before? And how many acts has parliament passed this year that are deeply flawed? But thanks to John Key, none of this is gonna change. It will be business as usual. It’s that the Greens voted to ban political speech, else I might have considered voting for them this year.

I wouldn’t trust ANYTHING these guys claim. But, unless ISPs want to spend a few hours investigating each complaint, then the default position will be to terminate the customer’s service. It’s a bad law.

Why did we ever permit them to come further south than Hadrian’s Wall??

He has actually conceded recently that I was right, and says he will not be voting Labour this time. We are talking here about a guy who has always voted Labour because his father did, and his grandfather, and all their ancestors from the north of England……you get the picture………

I think the problem is they simply put their own ease of administration before the best interests of NZ. Typical self serving behaviour. Look at the EFA – pretty much describes Labour’s actions from the 2005 election. Suckers didn’t get Glenn’s money this time though did they.

“Labours distaste for free speech.” ..???? Yeeech. Don’t foul up another thread.

For example charlatans like Uri Geller & Benny Hinn have used threats of legal action against You Tube to shutdown debunking of their snake oil inspite of fair use provisions in copyright law.

I can see Winston Peters preventing satirical cartoons by claiming copyright over his image perhaps and threatening ISP’s with legal action. All very murky and disturbing given Labours distaste for free speech.

Bryan Spondre

[DPF: No National definitely voted for it and I think ACT did also. The Greens voted against and have been admirably strong on this issue]