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	<title>Comments on: Brillant Dom Post Editorial provides the &#8220;innocent explanation&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: convicted radical</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482295</link>
		<dc:creator>convicted radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, SSB, Labour already knew the writing was on the wall when Maharey took up the Massey job!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, SSB, Labour already knew the writing was on the wall when Maharey took up the Massey job!<br />
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482275</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convicted Radical, yes the population has being dumbed down. When the core of your voting base is made up of many on welfare we are in very deep shit. Most of those going to university are soon enrolled into the dark side. One of my sisters, a teacher is on such example, she use to worship Dear Leader and the lunatic left, of course we never saw eye to eye but over time she has come to relise just how loopy these people are. My sister isn&#039;t stupid but never questioned the shit she was feed at university, real life has made her open her eyes. Sadly for a large proportion of the country real life is what the state says it is as the state controls their choices and seeks to control more and more of our choices this is known as &quot;wealth redistribution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convicted Radical, yes the population has being dumbed down. When the core of your voting base is made up of many on welfare we are in very deep shit. Most of those going to university are soon enrolled into the dark side. One of my sisters, a teacher is on such example, she use to worship Dear Leader and the lunatic left, of course we never saw eye to eye but over time she has come to relise just how loopy these people are. My sister isn&#8217;t stupid but never questioned the shit she was feed at university, real life has made her open her eyes. Sadly for a large proportion of the country real life is what the state says it is as the state controls their choices and seeks to control more and more of our choices this is known as &#8220;wealth redistribution&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: convicted radical</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482203</link>
		<dc:creator>convicted radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid
That is the other cunning Labour plot.  
All the intelligent electors are leaving the country at the rate of x per month!  (you can decide what x is)
The country is being dumbed down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid<br />
That is the other cunning Labour plot.<br />
All the intelligent electors are leaving the country at the rate of x per month!  (you can decide what x is)<br />
The country is being dumbed down!</p>
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		<title>By: carlyp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482192</link>
		<dc:creator>carlyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a lecture by Raymond Miller last week, first time I&#039;d heard him since I was in his class a few years back, and he reminded me of something I&#039;d forgotten about the polls...

As well as obvious other imperfections in polling and resulting misrepresentation.... pollsters pretty much only call landlines, whilst many younger voters (he reckoned about 80% of a class of 300) are only contactable on mobiles - so the polls miss a large chunk of the electorate.

Can&#039;t say that helps explain why Labour continues to do well though, because I&#039;d be betting many of those younger voters walk on the dark side ;) (well, at least around uni they do ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a lecture by Raymond Miller last week, first time I&#8217;d heard him since I was in his class a few years back, and he reminded me of something I&#8217;d forgotten about the polls&#8230;</p>
<p>As well as obvious other imperfections in polling and resulting misrepresentation&#8230;. pollsters pretty much only call landlines, whilst many younger voters (he reckoned about 80% of a class of 300) are only contactable on mobiles &#8211; so the polls miss a large chunk of the electorate.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say that helps explain why Labour continues to do well though, because I&#8217;d be betting many of those younger voters walk on the dark side <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  (well, at least around uni they do <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482191</link>
		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m feeling quite distressed after reading just 3 pages of the Herald&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Your Views section on Peters&lt;/a&gt;.

Farken heck and golly, if that&#039;s a reflection of what&#039;s walking to the polls in November, this country is fucked.

Talk about pigshit ignorance, and these are the &quot;advanced citizens&quot; who&#039;ve got access to the internet and care enough to read the Herald online.

Crikey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m feeling quite distressed after reading just 3 pages of the Herald&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154" rel="nofollow">Your Views section on Peters</a>.</p>
<p>Farken heck and golly, if that&#8217;s a reflection of what&#8217;s walking to the polls in November, this country is fucked.</p>
<p>Talk about pigshit ignorance, and these are the &#8220;advanced citizens&#8221; who&#8217;ve got access to the internet and care enough to read the Herald online.</p>
<p>Crikey.</p>
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		<title>By: riki</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482190</link>
		<dc:creator>riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I am feeling quite distressed.
How the hell can liarbore be gaining in the polls?&quot;


The NZ electorate is not that politically enlightened otherwise they would unstand the Libertarianz

But fear not good man, they don&#039;t vote for polls

and who can forgot the single wise ejacualtion of that former national leader who so quaintly espoused

&quot;Bugger the polls!&quot;

Didn&#039;t happen for him, but this is another year :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I am feeling quite distressed.<br />
How the hell can liarbore be gaining in the polls?&#8221;</p>
<p>The NZ electorate is not that politically enlightened otherwise they would unstand the Libertarianz</p>
<p>But fear not good man, they don&#8217;t vote for polls</p>
<p>and who can forgot the single wise ejacualtion of that former national leader who so quaintly espoused</p>
<p>&#8220;Bugger the polls!&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t happen for him, but this is another year <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: convicted radical</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482188</link>
		<dc:creator>convicted radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>convicted radical (11)   +0 Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
September 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

I wouldn’t get too distressed just yet. Two things:


Hey DPF, am I on your watchlist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>convicted radical (11)   +0 Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.<br />
September 6th, 2008 at 8:46 pm</p>
<p>I wouldn’t get too distressed just yet. Two things:</p>
<p>Hey DPF, am I on your watchlist?</p>
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		<title>By: slightlyrighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>slightlyrighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shunda.

This set of polls were taken at a time when the full extent of the OG, WP, and HC trifecta was yet to see the fullest light of day.  Being conducted in the last 2 weeks of the month, and HC&#039;s admission was not until the 29th.  

Admittedly it was a bit of a knock, but watch this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shunda.</p>
<p>This set of polls were taken at a time when the full extent of the OG, WP, and HC trifecta was yet to see the fullest light of day.  Being conducted in the last 2 weeks of the month, and HC&#8217;s admission was not until the 29th.  </p>
<p>Admittedly it was a bit of a knock, but watch this space.</p>
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		<title>By: convicted radical</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482181</link>
		<dc:creator>convicted radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t get too distressed just yet.  Two things:

1.  If you study DPF&#039;s curiablog, you will see that Morgan Polls are closer than the other three sources. I will let you analyse them and draw your own conclusions.

2.  It was a period (late August) where there were a few gaffs from the blue corner and the full effect of the NZ Last/Liarbour tango was only just coming to light.

Stay tuned for the next poll, it may lower your distress level.  However, as with any election, expect a narrowing of the margin; if it does happen, make sure your votes counts.  Use them wisely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t get too distressed just yet.  Two things:</p>
<p>1.  If you study DPF&#8217;s curiablog, you will see that Morgan Polls are closer than the other three sources. I will let you analyse them and draw your own conclusions.</p>
<p>2.  It was a period (late August) where there were a few gaffs from the blue corner and the full effect of the NZ Last/Liarbour tango was only just coming to light.</p>
<p>Stay tuned for the next poll, it may lower your distress level.  However, as with any election, expect a narrowing of the margin; if it does happen, make sure your votes counts.  Use them wisely!</p>
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		<title>By: Michaels</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482180</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shunda, I&#039;m sorry, but yes.
I think the base of NZer&#039;s socialist idiots, oh and maybe thick too!!
However in saying that, I am quietly confident besides the roy morgan poll, that the nat&#039;s are still a good 13 to 15% ahead. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shunda, I&#8217;m sorry, but yes.<br />
I think the base of NZer&#8217;s socialist idiots, oh and maybe thick too!!<br />
However in saying that, I am quietly confident besides the roy morgan poll, that the nat&#8217;s are still a good 13 to 15% ahead. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shunda barunda</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482179</link>
		<dc:creator>Shunda barunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am feeling quite distressed.
How the hell can liarbore be gaining in the polls?
Do kiwi&#039;s really believe the pathetic excuses the left are offering for this whole stinking mess?
 blatant corruption obviously dosen&#039;t mean much to many people anymore.
The polls must be wrong surely.
Is it possible that kiwis have become so dumbed down that rational decision making is a thing of the past?
NZers need a wake up call, the problem is if it dosen&#039;t happen before the election it sure will soon after, and then it will be to late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am feeling quite distressed.<br />
How the hell can liarbore be gaining in the polls?<br />
Do kiwi&#8217;s really believe the pathetic excuses the left are offering for this whole stinking mess?<br />
 blatant corruption obviously dosen&#8217;t mean much to many people anymore.<br />
The polls must be wrong surely.<br />
Is it possible that kiwis have become so dumbed down that rational decision making is a thing of the past?<br />
NZers need a wake up call, the problem is if it dosen&#8217;t happen before the election it sure will soon after, and then it will be to late.</p>
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		<title>By: getstaffed</title>
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		<dc:creator>getstaffed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>convicted radical - 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I smell something fishy... and I&#039;m not talking about the contents of Baldrick&#039;s apple crumble&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;- Edmund Blackadder&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>convicted radical &#8211; </p>
<p><i>&#8220;I smell something fishy&#8230; and I&#8217;m not talking about the contents of Baldrick&#8217;s apple crumble&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>- Edmund Blackadder</i></p>
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		<title>By: carlyp</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>convicted radical .... maybe he&#039;s laying low as he does some digging... SOMEONE needs to put a massive crack in Helen&#039;s armour and perhaps he&#039;s the best best (at least in the court of public opinion ;) )...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>convicted radical &#8230;. maybe he&#8217;s laying low as he does some digging&#8230; SOMEONE needs to put a massive crack in Helen&#8217;s armour and perhaps he&#8217;s the best best (at least in the court of public opinion <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.&quot;


True....all two of them are here foaming over their keyboards with indignation...


http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.&#8221;</p>
<p>True&#8230;.all two of them are here foaming over their keyboards with indignation&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new low, deemed imposssible in international corruption, has been set by Rt Hon Winston Peters- MP Lawyer_Charlatan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new low, deemed imposssible in international corruption, has been set by Rt Hon Winston Peters- MP Lawyer_Charlatan!</p>
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		<title>By: convicted radical</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482169</link>
		<dc:creator>convicted radical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has Ian Wishart got on WP???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has Ian Wishart got on WP???</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/brillant_dom_post_editorial_provides_the_innocent_explanation.html#comment-482165</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.&quot;


Yes you will find all two of them here fighting a desperate rear guard...;-)



http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes you will find all two of them here fighting a desperate rear guard&#8230;;-)</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2008/8/29/should-winston-peters-be-removed-foreign-minister/?c_id=1501154</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am most impressed with this explanation, love the last line.... Surely the prime minister is not that cynical.
HA HA HA HE HE HE..... of course not!!!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am most impressed with this explanation, love the last line&#8230;. Surely the prime minister is not that cynical.<br />
HA HA HA HE HE HE&#8230;.. of course not!!!!!! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NZTed</title>
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		<dc:creator>NZTed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a full flushing, unrisked, reconstructed moron could believe the orchestrated litany of lies from these wicked knaves now.</p>
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