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	<title>Comments on: General Debate 18 September 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-487070</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I doubt very much whether he has hacked into Cameron’s blog.&quot;

So it&#039;s just a coincidence that Whale&#039;s site went down five minutes after &#039;sod&#039;s post and has not come back up since?

BTW, Bryan, there&#039;s a very nice photo of you up at &#039;sodblog.  I reckon you&#039;d be odds-on to win the associated contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I doubt very much whether he has hacked into Cameron’s blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s just a coincidence that Whale&#8217;s site went down five minutes after &#8217;sod&#8217;s post and has not come back up since?</p>
<p>BTW, Bryan, there&#8217;s a very nice photo of you up at &#8217;sodblog.  I reckon you&#8217;d be odds-on to win the associated contest.</p>
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		<title>By: WraithX</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486985</link>
		<dc:creator>WraithX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this hasn&#039;t already been said, but for those concerned for whaleoil - in his own words:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I moved hosts and picked up some sort of conflict between php and the db...have some geeks looking at it.

The Standard and Robinsod haven&#039;t done anything, just a coincidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this hasn&#8217;t already been said, but for those concerned for whaleoil &#8211; in his own words:</p>
<blockquote><p>I moved hosts and picked up some sort of conflict between php and the db&#8230;have some geeks looking at it.</p>
<p>The Standard and Robinsod haven&#8217;t done anything, just a coincidence.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486980</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big bruv says on September 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pm:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I know this is terribly UN PC to say but who is the fucking idiot at Radio Live who thought that Matt McCarten would make a good temporary replacement for Willie Jackson?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

B,b,b,b,b,b but ttttthat’s ter ter ter terriblyyyy Un PC of yyyyou. ;-)

(Incidentally who else is looking forward to yet another round of election night coverage on TV where McCarten stutters and rolls his eyes explaining away why the left are getting hammered?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big bruv says on September 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pm:</p>
<blockquote><p>I know this is terribly UN PC to say but who is the fucking idiot at Radio Live who thought that Matt McCarten would make a good temporary replacement for Willie Jackson?</p></blockquote>
<p>B,b,b,b,b,b but ttttthat’s ter ter ter terriblyyyy Un PC of yyyyou. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Incidentally who else is looking forward to yet another round of election night coverage on TV where McCarten stutters and rolls his eyes explaining away why the left are getting hammered?)</p>
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		<title>By: Duxton</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486979</link>
		<dc:creator>Duxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question. 

Did Helen Clark say the election would be about &#039;TRUST&#039; (as in, &quot;you can trust me more than John Key&quot;)....

or &#039;TRUSSED&#039; (as in, &quot;my husband likes being trussed up and....&quot;)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question. </p>
<p>Did Helen Clark say the election would be about &#8216;TRUST&#8217; (as in, &#8220;you can trust me more than John Key&#8221;)&#8230;.</p>
<p>or &#8216;TRUSSED&#8217; (as in, &#8220;my husband likes being trussed up and&#8230;.&#8221;)?</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486975</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I expected better of Hooten, he generally seems to have his head in the right place. Perhaps he is a closet Labour-voter.&quot;

Could be a closet anything. Read his latest post on how he helped to undermine Don Brash. Makes it easier to understand why his blog is the wreck it is, and why he seeks alliances with idiotic knuckle dragging anti free speech untrustworthy slime like his BLOG PRODUCER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I expected better of Hooten, he generally seems to have his head in the right place. Perhaps he is a closet Labour-voter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could be a closet anything. Read his latest post on how he helped to undermine Don Brash. Makes it easier to understand why his blog is the wreck it is, and why he seeks alliances with idiotic knuckle dragging anti free speech untrustworthy slime like his BLOG PRODUCER.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486963</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m not the only person on the left who thinks this.&quot;

Well, maybe there&#039;s a few of you who do have the odd scruple. Frankly, I find it hard to believe. As one who has fought for eight years now to break the progressive&#039;s grip on NZ&#039;s culture, I can tell you from my own experience, that whenever you think the power obsessed smug self righteous left have sunk to the lowest possible point on any scale of morality, they always find a way to sink lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not the only person on the left who thinks this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, maybe there&#8217;s a few of you who do have the odd scruple. Frankly, I find it hard to believe. As one who has fought for eight years now to break the progressive&#8217;s grip on NZ&#8217;s culture, I can tell you from my own experience, that whenever you think the power obsessed smug self righteous left have sunk to the lowest possible point on any scale of morality, they always find a way to sink lower.</p>
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		<title>By: lloydois</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486960</link>
		<dc:creator>lloydois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to spell it out for you big bruv. Illegal invasion of privacy and e-mail hijacking is never acceptable.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not the only person on the left who thinks this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to spell it out for you big bruv. Illegal invasion of privacy and e-mail hijacking is never acceptable.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the only person on the left who thinks this.</p>
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		<title>By: lloydois</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486958</link>
		<dc:creator>lloydois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I don&#039;t think it&#039;s OK big bruv.  Show me where I said that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s OK big bruv.  Show me where I said that?</p>
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		<title>By: Tauhei Notts</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486957</link>
		<dc:creator>Tauhei Notts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is General Debate so I will try something different.
I suggest that bloggers glance at the Channel 65 Alt TV.
Their Uncles programme at 7.30 p.m. is hilarious.  Their Sunday News Roast is good.  Their lengthy interview with Robert Fisk was a breath of fresh air.  Okay, their music videos are excrement.
There is a left wing bias but it is no where near as nauseating as Philu&#039;s bile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is General Debate so I will try something different.<br />
I suggest that bloggers glance at the Channel 65 Alt TV.<br />
Their Uncles programme at 7.30 p.m. is hilarious.  Their Sunday News Roast is good.  Their lengthy interview with Robert Fisk was a breath of fresh air.  Okay, their music videos are excrement.<br />
There is a left wing bias but it is no where near as nauseating as Philu&#8217;s bile.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486956</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You  can call me Sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You  can call me Sir.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486954</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big bruv telling me to grow. Peter Burns is my name , what&#039;s your matey !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big bruv telling me to grow. Peter Burns is my name , what&#8217;s your matey !!!</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486951</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D4J

I checked out what you had to say about Bryan, to say your words are childish would be an insult to kids.

Grow up man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D4J</p>
<p>I checked out what you had to say about Bryan, to say your words are childish would be an insult to kids.</p>
<p>Grow up man.</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486950</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Pierson said over at the VDS:
&lt;blockquote&gt;you seem fixated on the number, not the idea we should have sent soldiers to die.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
All fine and well except Hels did sent soldiers to Iraq to die.  The fact she got luckily and the number who died was &lt;b&gt;0&lt;/b&gt; is just getting “fixated on the number”. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Pierson said over at the VDS:</p>
<blockquote><p>you seem fixated on the number, not the idea we should have sent soldiers to die.</p></blockquote>
<p>All fine and well except Hels did sent soldiers to Iraq to die.  The fact she got luckily and the number who died was <b>0</b> is just getting “fixated on the number”. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486945</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brain Spondic - check out my comments about you on sods blog you nutbar.

Edit - shit you got a horrible head on your shoulders .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brain Spondic &#8211; check out my comments about you on sods blog you nutbar.</p>
<p>Edit &#8211; shit you got a horrible head on your shoulders .</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486944</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wreck1080 says on September 18th, 2008 at 9:01 am: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;So, using the prorata argument, Helen should be paid $8,000 per year. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
That would make it difficult to buy six houses. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wreck1080 says on September 18th, 2008 at 9:01 am: </p>
<blockquote><p>So, using the prorata argument, Helen should be paid $8,000 per year. </p></blockquote>
<p>That would make it difficult to buy six houses. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: redbaiter_baiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486942</link>
		<dc:creator>redbaiter_baiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Speaking of other blogs, how long do you guys think it will be before somebody hacks into Robinsods blog given his admitted vandalism of Whale’s site?&quot;

I suspect Dylan Robinson aka Mike Porton aka Robinsod is a legend in his own lunchbox. I doubt very much whether he has hacked into Cameron&#039;s blog. No doubt he would like the blogo-sphere to believe he has. 

Bryan Spondre aka redbaiter_baiter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Speaking of other blogs, how long do you guys think it will be before somebody hacks into Robinsods blog given his admitted vandalism of Whale’s site?&#8221;</p>
<p>I suspect Dylan Robinson aka Mike Porton aka Robinsod is a legend in his own lunchbox. I doubt very much whether he has hacked into Cameron&#8217;s blog. No doubt he would like the blogo-sphere to believe he has. </p>
<p>Bryan Spondre aka redbaiter_baiter</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486941</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Spot on big bruv. For those who believe they hold the moral high ground all is justified.&quot;

How cryptic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Spot on big bruv. For those who believe they hold the moral high ground all is justified.&#8221;</p>
<p>How cryptic.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486937</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Correction, I publish the IP addresses of those who have been banned. Most online forums (unlike blogs) publish all IP addresses to encourage good behavior.&quot;

Another lie from net&#039;s most slimy IP posting coward. Blogs are merely forums that respect one&#039;s privacy. That&#039;s why they&#039;re so popular. You have been warned readers- your privacy is unsafe on the Trotter Hooten blog, where they are ready to so casually betray the trust that every other blog abides by. Here&#039;s Kiwiblog&#039;s policy-

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If you post a comment on my blog, your IP address plus the date and time you made the comment are recorded. If you vote in a blog poll your user name (if registered) and IP address are recorded.

I retain this information for at least a year and will in all circumstances release it to NZ authorities if presented with a warrant. I may hand it over without a warrant also, if I think a comment broke the law or was defamatory. I reserve all rights to do what I see fit with this information, as it is my site.

I have given information to the Police on two occasions. Once in relation to threats made by a user against an MP, and once in relation to a murder investigation.

However those who know me will testify that I only try to screw someone over, if they have done something particularly nasty aimed at me. I’ve only twice needed to retalitate in the last ten years, so it is very hard to get onto my revenge list. The bad news is that there is no known method to get off the list, once on it 
So the bottom line in terms of privacy in browsing or commenting on this site, is that in 99.99% of all cases I will keep your personal information strictly confidential to me. However if you break the law, defame someone, or really piss me off, then you have been warned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Correction, I publish the IP addresses of those who have been banned. Most online forums (unlike blogs) publish all IP addresses to encourage good behavior.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another lie from net&#8217;s most slimy IP posting coward. Blogs are merely forums that respect one&#8217;s privacy. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re so popular. You have been warned readers- your privacy is unsafe on the Trotter Hooten blog, where they are ready to so casually betray the trust that every other blog abides by. Here&#8217;s Kiwiblog&#8217;s policy-</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>If you post a comment on my blog, your IP address plus the date and time you made the comment are recorded. If you vote in a blog poll your user name (if registered) and IP address are recorded.</p>
<p>I retain this information for at least a year and will in all circumstances release it to NZ authorities if presented with a warrant. I may hand it over without a warrant also, if I think a comment broke the law or was defamatory. I reserve all rights to do what I see fit with this information, as it is my site.</p>
<p>I have given information to the Police on two occasions. Once in relation to threats made by a user against an MP, and once in relation to a murder investigation.</p>
<p>However those who know me will testify that I only try to screw someone over, if they have done something particularly nasty aimed at me. I’ve only twice needed to retalitate in the last ten years, so it is very hard to get onto my revenge list. The bad news is that there is no known method to get off the list, once on it<br />
So the bottom line in terms of privacy in browsing or commenting on this site, is that in 99.99% of all cases I will keep your personal information strictly confidential to me. However if you break the law, defame someone, or really piss me off, then you have been warned!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486936</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has to be the funniest leftie wank  blog comment of this week. -From the Standard

“Steve Pierson 
September 18, 2008 at 9:17 am 
brett you can haggle over the numbers if you like. the Aussies lost 1 would that be ok with you? The Estonians two, Denmark 7… how many dead is ok by you brett? Because, like Key, you seem fixated on the number, not the idea we should have sent soldiers to die.”
 
Details don’t matter –it’s only ‘exaggerating for effect’ ...oh, and by the way - dont get hung up on numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has to be the funniest leftie wank  blog comment of this week. -From the Standard</p>
<p>“Steve Pierson<br />
September 18, 2008 at 9:17 am<br />
brett you can haggle over the numbers if you like. the Aussies lost 1 would that be ok with you? The Estonians two, Denmark 7… how many dead is ok by you brett? Because, like Key, you seem fixated on the number, not the idea we should have sent soldiers to die.”</p>
<p>Details don’t matter –it’s only ‘exaggerating for effect’ &#8230;oh, and by the way &#8211; dont get hung up on numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: redbaiter_baiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/general_debate_18_september_2008.html#comment-486935</link>
		<dc:creator>redbaiter_baiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you serious?, you think that it is OK to hack into the private emails of Palins kids and family?&quot;

Spot on big bruv. For those who believe they hold the moral high ground all is justified. 

For example: the outrageous claims of Dylan Robinson aka Robinsod aka Mike Porton.

Bryan Spondre aka redbaiter_baiter</description>
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<p>Spot on big bruv. For those who believe they hold the moral high ground all is justified. </p>
<p>For example: the outrageous claims of Dylan Robinson aka Robinsod aka Mike Porton.</p>
<p>Bryan Spondre aka redbaiter_baiter</p>
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