Was anyone else expecting Paul Henry to ask Helen Clark about Winston Peters this morning on Breakfast after his big build up asking her whether she believed John Key had lied or made a mistake?
I for one was disappointed not to hear the question “if you are so certain that John Key has lied, why do you still believe that Winston Peters has been telling the truth after a majority of Priviledges Committee members from a cross-spectrum of parties have reported otherwise to Parliament, and had him censured on those grounds?”
Yes, she sticks to her story about bias, but it would have been nice to see her answer to that question immediately after she had been explaining why she was so certain John Key was a liar.
Also, I’m not sure I agree with any party using taxpayer money to dig up dirt on their political opponents. Surely this shouldn’t be what my taxes pay for? I would hope that some of them use their own funds, but I imagine if the taxpayer funds are available, they get used.
I have always defended Paul Henry simply because he seemed to be the one member of the media who is prepared to ask the hard questions of our politicians, I have no issue with the way he ripped into John Key last week and was looking forward to seeing him do the same to dear corrupt leader this morning.
Sadly it seems that Paul Henry has become another in the long line of gutless media hacks who cower in the face of dear corrupt leader.
While nobody could ever accuse Henry of being a pinko it does bring into question his aggressive attacks on Key, and why he gives Klark such an easy ride.
Anyone else see this in the weekend press? It seems that the Labour Party j=have got together with the Greens to get this bill a first reading! If it’s true, there are regular(s) on this blog that might need to rethink their voting strategy!
>>Thousands of long-term beneficiaries are targets of a crackdown that threatens to cancel payments if they shun jobs or training opportunities.
The Government plans to send a “clear signal” to about 6000 benefit recipients that being “inactive is not an option”, Cabinet papers released to The Dominion Post under the Official Information Act reveal.
Those unemployed for more than two years will be targets because many face significant barriers to finding a job – such as drug and alcohol problems, poor work habits, poor literacy and numeracy or health problems, the papers say.
perhaps Dave, but now that Parliament has risen for the year, and will not re-sit in it’s present format, isn’t this all a bit late?
For one, next year, when Parliament next sits, Labour might not be the “Government” so to come out saying you plan to send a clear signal at this late stage is a bit much don’t you think? The signal was sent some time ago, but not by Labour.
Top o’ the morning to ye! As promised, an update on Phil U’s academic credentials. Me colleagues confirm that a non-research MA in politics has not been offered in living memory. More to the point, the UoA offers a handy graduate search facility. Guess what, Phil U? Just as Dannyboy said, you graduated Bachelors (in 1996), but narry a Masters to be seen. So you’d better get in touch with the University to correct this, assuming you’re not lying, o’ course. And if you are, hope you haven’t been claiming that you have an MA on official documents and the like.
So, good luck with that defamation case. And see a doctor about whatever you caught from Winston Peters.
I too was very disappointed in Henry this morning. Has he shown himself to be a bully in that he will only attack those who won’t fght back? or are too well mannered to do so at least?
He is either scared of Clark or he was instructed not to attack. Either way it was a disgrace and he has tarnished his repuation. From now on, I’ll just scoff at the TV when he gets all high and mighty. Wimp.
I noticed that with Helen he couldn’t do the job.
Is it because he is afraid of her or is it because she is a woman?
I don’t know never having interviewed her, what she’s like.
He does seem a bit of a bully the way he takes the piss out of people around him and makes them look silly.
But when faced with the real deal in his job he can’t perform.
maybe that has something to do with it.
he faced a bigger bully or as a bully he recognises someone more powerful than him
and can’t perform.
well Philu whether it is nosty or danny-boy he has uncovered some rather interesting information, do you care to comment on that at all? Or were you only informed of this information at 5pm today by your lawyer and new nothing previously?
You mean like on a CV? Cause I don’t think they have “highest academic achievement” on application to buy dope forms.
Nah, I’m thinkin’ more along the lines of Parliamentary submissions.
..(i see nosty is still pretending to be ‘danny boy’..weird/stalking lawyer that he is..)
Nah, I ain’t “Nosty”. Just an interested commenter with an initially benevolent disposition toward a fellow PG PS alum, who became increasing incredulous of your spurious responses to me gentle questioning, and finally, with me academic sensibilities well an’ truly offended, just a pissed-off Irishman.
Did anybody else watch the abysmal new political drama “the pretender” on TV One last night?
While the show was bad enough the thing that really got under my skin is that the show was made with our fucking money, it is time that we did away with “New Zealand on air” if that is the best they can come up with then I wish they would not bother.
PhilU, there were two parts to Danny-Boy’s questioning:
1. There has never been a non-research based MA offered, you claim to have done a coursework based MA
2. Your name doesn’t appear on the list of those who have one
I think it is a bit more than just getting in touch with the university – your story doesn’t add up at all. Or were you unable to tell the difference between a research MA and a coursework MA? And what does that tell us about your diligence and application to the education on offer (you know, if you think you’re doing a coursework MA but don’t notice that there are no lectures).
Should I assume that you did, in fact, enrol in an MA, but didn’t turn up at all? To the extent that you didn’t notice what the actual course content involved? For what reason would someone do this? Is there some advantage that someone living on a benefit could acquire from appearing to be enrolled in a university course?
Phule, I have never denied you exist, I just do not believe that you are what you say you are; a benefit bludger. I believe you have a paid political job and trolling on this blog is one of your paid duties.
phil: I think you’ll find I’m posting under my real name, so not really much hope of “blowing my anonymity out of the water”. As for bile – sorry, I was just summarising to make it easy for you to respond. Didn’t see much bile in what I said, but I guess that is another eye of the beholder thing.
I’m interested that there was no coursework MA in “living memory” (claimed by Danny Boy – and corrected from my previous “never” – like John Key I can admit my mistakes), but your BA came in 1996. Did you do your MA before your BA? Was that also common practice in the past?
..You know, if you were to email me a scan or digital photograph of your degree, I’m sure I could post it on my web server for these other skeptics to see!..”
y’know what..i never bothered picking it up..i never bothered with the cape and gown bullshit..either..
Oh I see! That’s fair enough. So, how is that you prove your degree to potential employers? I’m assuming you do actually attend job interviews, as you should do since you’re currently on a benefit. Unlike these other people, I personally have complete confidence that you do genuinely detest being dependent on other people, and make continuous attempts to find work.
So, just send us the same proof you use for potential employers, and you an I can laugh at all these other fools! Ah Ha!
(it is interesting..how all of you ‘brave’/slandering righties are snivelling cowards hiding behind false names..
I hope you’re not including me in there Phil. See, I’m right-wing, but I don’t hide behind an alias…. I even provide a link to my personal website. There’s nothing much on there. In fact, the most popular post is a very short one saying goodbye to my murdered ex-girlfriend. I really only have the site because I like to mess around with wordpress.
But hey, feel free to visit it if you like, then call all my friends and tell them how right-wing I am. I’m sure they haven’t guessed by now.
phil, You’re lying. You have been for ages. That much is obvious. And to come out swinging at anyone who proves to you be lying just adds nastiness to your faults. Get a job and develop some personal integrity. It’ll be good for all of us.
Oh I get it… Philu is hoping to take Winnie’s place when he is in the slammer. He’s got it all, the stammering, the bluster, the attack those who dare question your lies, and the liers themselves of course. He is also recieving money from businesses and wealthy individuals (carefully launded through IRD and WINZ). Oh and of course a blog no one reads. It all makes sense now – the plan not Philu’s writing.
Lashing out a bit this morning are we Phil? As for the shaming – seems to me there’ll only be one person being shamed in this current incident. Why can you not just come out and answer: Did you get a coursework-based MA in politics from Auckland University since you got you BA from said university?
If you say you did, then it would seem that Danny-Boy must have wildly incorrect information when he says that no such thing has existed in living memory.
All I want you to do is provide us with proof that you’ve got that MA we’re all talking about.
That’s no big deal, right?
I understand that you don’t want to lower yourself by providing proof to these dimwit righties, but surely, in the interests of showing them up, you’d be prepared to collect together a few official documents?
Heck, even an officially printed academic record will do!
Unless….. unless you don’t actually have the degree. But that’s not possible, is it Phil? You wouldn’t lie to us just to make yourself look more educated than you actually are, right?
You certainly would never stoop to attacking people, threatening to publicly shame them in some nebulous and indeterminate manner, would you?
You’d never, ever adopt Winston-like tactics in diverting attention away from your own lies towards the alleged, but totally unproven, wrongdoing of others, would you?
The sad fact is, you benefit-bludging little gobshite, you’re a lying, thieving, cheating drug addict, who deserves nothing but scorn and ridicule. You represent everything that I despise. You are so far beneath my contempt that I feel dirty even conversing with you. You disgust me from the height of my intellect to the depth of my soul, I blush red with embarrassment that I must call you countryman, and I rage with unknowable fury that good people die while scum like you survive.
RRM, remind me never to employ any person who claims to have an MA from Victoria.
Do they turn out surgeons who have never held a scalpel as well?
Back on topic, I’d laugh like hell if Phil produces an MA from a university other than Auckland. After all, back in those days you’d expect a true Amerrika hater to attend somewhere reputable, like Cuba or Roumania. The certificate might even be signed by Ceausescu. Could be worth a small fortune.
Fwiw, I’ve taught at 3 NZ universities and the regulations are quite clear on the differences between research-based and course-based master’s programmes. Indeed, thanks to the NZQA it is a requirement that your Master’s programme includes a significant, independent research element.
I didn’t pickup my PhD certificate either at graduation. But it got mailed to me anyway. So I’m not sure why Phil has not been in receipt of his.
I’m clearly a newbie here, but it does seem that there has been a genuine, independent effort to verify Phil’s claim. This has thrown reasonable doubt on Phil’s claims of academic achievement. It is entirely reasonable to expect Phil to assuage these suspicions at this point. And fwiw, bluster doesn’t count as a response.
From just another lentil-munching, cycling, greenie.
Chthoniid “I’m clearly a newbie here, but it does seem that there has been a genuine, independent effort to verify Phil’s claim. This has thrown reasonable doubt on Phil’s claims of academic achievement.”
No no no, all we have here is a conflict of evidence. I’m confident that there is an innocent explanation.
“…attend somewhere reputable, like Cuba or Roumania.”
Not a chance, Whoar can only be a graduate from two places: either University of Addis Abbaba, Ethiopia, (master-cum-laude on Cannabis Studies), or the Universty of Ping-Pen, China, (Profound Chemistry Professorship).
Notice the emphasis on the letter P.
Remember RogerNome? He had his reasons for trolling here…….he really was trying to make a case for his political beliefs…..I respect him for that…….he gave it away…….I respect him for that even more……….He wasn’t succeeding in convincing anybody, and onlookers following the arguments we were having were being turned into converts to his opponents side…….
What is it that keeps YOU coming back, running back, coming back, for more……..Phool?
could you please do something about this ..david farrar..!
What are you so upset about, phool? This is one of your objectives you’re paid to achieve, isn’t it? Provoke the rightwingers into “hate speech”, so that you will have a pretext to take away our freedom of speech altogether, you and your fellow Stalinists? Spy on us, hack into our blogs and our websites, and prosecute us in your effing “Human Rights” Kangaroo Courts….
Me, paranoid? Hey, it’s already happening in Sweden and Norway and Canada. Phool is just following an established tradition on the Left……
You’ve done a good job, phule, eh? I bet Sue and Keith’s minions have added Glutaemus’ “death threats” to their treasure trove of “evidence”, eh, phool…….I bet you’ll be up for a bonus…….
I’m a newbie here, but from my experience on other blogs I have found that the best way to get rid of idiots is for everyone to totally ignore them. Don’t respond to any posts at all. This robs them of their oxygen of attention. Eventually, they will get sick of it and leave of their own accord.
…..and still not a shred of evidence regarding the MA.
I’m going to bring this up again and again until you give us an answer, Phil.
I’m going to make you an offer. You put up solid, concrete evidence of your MA, and I will unreservedly apologize to you for ever doubting you.
You have 48 hours.
If, in 48 hours time, you have produced no such evidence, then I shall deem myself to have called your bluff, and proclaim Glut, PhilBest, Big Bruv & Co (sorry if I missed anyone) the undisputed winners of this little controversy, and henceforth shall use it to cast doubt on the veracity of every one of your assertions.
If you do actually have the MA you claim to have, then this should be an exceptionally easy bet to win.
P.S. I’d avoid photoshopping any documentary evidence… I have a very good friend who shares an office with me who can spot a ‘shopped image ten miles away. Seriously, he’s an expert.
kimble; finished licking your wounds have you? think your up to it for another go?
and that was the best you could do?
i’m all for voluntary outing kimble.
my name is phillip ure; i am an ex junkie (15 yrs clean of junk; still use pot), ex con (armed robbery of chemist shop whilst going through smack withdrawels), vegan,dpb supported sole dad(thanks), environmental/animal rights activist/supporter.
my lineage is irish, scots, welsh; filtered through five generations in this wonderful country. (did anyone see connolly last night, whoar!)
i have travelled/lived in aust, usa, europe, china/asia and other parts of the planet.
i loathe racists with an intensity that is visceral.
i find that if you scratch a racist you will find an astounding lack of intellectual rigor. basically they are as thick as pigshit, (a trait you kimble, have excelled in)
i have a masters degree in politics, and have worked in broadcasting (radio) in usa, aust, and here.
i am currently developing a news/info/opinion/debate website; which is a component in a larger plan involving radio/tv broadcasting.
(if you want to have a go at me at home try http://www.whoar.co.nz; a basic model is up; the bells and whistle version in about a week).
so how about you kimble?; you’re a former high flying(?) national party official aren’t you?
i’m glad you’ve thrown down this gauntlet and am looking forward to you telling us who you are, so we can put a face to the bile that seeps through your lips.
by the way i loved the “needle dick” epiphet; heartiest chuckle i’ve had on this site, (and there have been a few) mainly because of the reaction i knew it would have amongst you right wing/racist needle-dicks; (you know who you are)
“my name is phillip ure; i am an ex junkie (15 yrs clean of junk; still use pot), ex con (armed robbery of chemist shop whilst going through smack withdrawels), vegan,dpb supported sole dad(thanks), environmental/animal rights activist/supporter. ”
And we all contribute to the dole this bludger collects every fortnight without lifting a finger, other than to open the oven.
No wonder NZ is falling behind with “people”, scum is the better term, of Whoar’s caliber.
Manolo, I have been pursuing a theory about Philu for the last few days, I believe he is getting paid a lot more of our money than if he was just a welfare bludger. I believe he is the same type as the “Standard” – he is funded to do what he does, although his pathetic website is obviously not as prominent as the Standard; but he is up to some other game.
He won’t answer my question: how well do you know Nandor, Phool?
“I have been pursuing a theory about Philu for the last few days, I believe he is getting paid a lot more of our money than if he was just a welfare bludger.”
You may be proven right, Phil. Nonetheless, I do hate everything Whoar represents: mediocrity; intellectual laziness; an utterly false sense of compassion and concern for others (the bludger only looks after himself); a total disregard for the truth, even when confonted by it; a sense of moral superiority on environmental matters (acquired who knows from where);
an abhorrence for work, which makes him a parasite on our backs, as if we need another one in NZ, the land of bludgers.
I don’t care if he’s a former jailbird, we all make mistakes in life and in time are capable of redeeming ourselves. Phil Ure is not.
I just saw ‘Vote with Both Eyes Open’ at http://botheyesopen.org.nz/ With a name like that it should ideally cover every person standing, not just one party. Maybe a better name would be “I’ll choose how I want to be one-eyed”
“travelled lots, junkie for 15~20 yrs, did time, went to auck uni in 90′s and did masters in politics [possible, but someone check it out properly]. 20 yrs radio broadcasting experience. 2 nippers (27) and (9). currently living in auck city cheers. am running a newswire service/blog http://www.whoar.co.nz”
Essentially your credentials are not exactly inspiring, especially for a 57 year old. I almost feel sorry for you but you dont blog like in any genuine way so I’m not sure you deserve any sympathy. You are an outsider aren’t you, the kind of guy who expects people not to like him and has limited social skills & therefore has few friends.
The Glubbster strikes…
um…PhilU do you want to send us a pic as well since you are not anonymous anymore! Would make you assertions a little stonger..
I am also looking forward to rubbing it in when National are duly elected on 8/11/08. Since you have hassled everyone with your childlike predictions and your childlike posts all year (I can see why you were expelled in 5th form as you are barely intelligible) I’m sure we will have some good fun at your expense
According to Democrat Rep Barney Frank, these two financial entities are not facing any kind of financial crisis. They HAVE been criticised for exerting too much influence over their regulators who in turn regulate them more thereby forcing more pressure on rates people can’t afford which then produces foreclosures. This then sounds that the govt is covering up the foreclosures by inventing a crisis. This is because the government refuses to repeal financial investing into the two entities. The govt just keeps flooding them with money and now wants to pad them with billions.
Here are the scary quotes.
Barney Frank “”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
funny that i’m the only one using my real name..eh..?
Bullshit. Some do not, but I use my real name. As do quite a few other posters. You’ve been outed as a liar, phil. You could do what Philip John should have done and apologize. But I strongly suspect you do not have the fortitude and integrity to do so. I’d be happily proven wrong though.
Phil: Given your broadcasting background and your surname, are you related to Mike Ure? (serious question, I used to work with the guy at Radio Pacific and lost touch ages ago. If so, tell him I said hi).
Buggerlugs: love the article and good luck – but PLEASE – teach your grandson about good clothing style too – that matters as much (if not more!) than environmentalism! Putting the poor thing in to a blue overall is just not good parenting! He should have matching gumboots and gloves at the very least! Anyway – I do wish you good luck in the campaign – I suspect that you will outdo the greens in your campaign. If I lived in Invercargill I would vote for you (but party vote ACT)
I think that whilst the robustness of the discussion got ugly and rough.
the issue of lying and lack of integrity is important for the free exchange of ideas.
I mthink those who demanded accountability are correct in substance.