Helen rules Winston in
The Herald reports:
She said she would not rule out dealing with anyone after the election besides National and its “handmaiden” Act.
This is very important. A vote for Labour will effectively be a vote to keep Winston in Government. It doesn’t matter how many times he lies, it doesn’t matter how many false donations returns are filed, she’ll still have him in Government.
After weeks and weeks of claiming she has to wait for due process, she shows she has made her mind up. Unless Winston is actually in a jail cell, she”ll deal with him. She knows that he lied to her and to the public. The whole country knows he lied. But Helen says no problems.
Once upon a time, Clark had some standards. She referred to Peters as the “Le Pen” of New Zealand. Now she will forgive him any crime or sin. He could call for mass deportation of Asian immigrants, and Helen would not rule him out.
I love it that Helen has said this is an election about trust. As one commenter suggested:
You can trust Helen to keep Winston’s secrets
Indeed.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
This is another monumental mistake by Klark, the only problem is that John Key will let it slide on past while he concentrates on his “positive campaign”
September 13th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This validation of Winston by Helen needs to be understood as the true totalitarian nature Liarbour will inflict upon the nation if they return after November.
I thought Muldoon was a tyrant. This current lot are really putting the wind up me.
I really don’t think people promoting them with their street placards are fully aware of who they support.
The unsophisticated masses still need sophisticated surveillance to understand.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
“Due process” could have been greatly advanced if she had not waited untill Owen glenn was about to out her before casually mentioning she had known the entire time about the loan. If not having had actually been the one who approved it.
I’m looking forward to a little “due process” of my own come 8 Nov.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I would prefer to believe Owen Glenn’s take on whether or not Helen and her minions are trustworthy.
“Wouldn’t want to be in the trenches with them – they’d push you out first.”
We only need to remember the contemptible way Helen & co. treated Glenn to determine whether or not she is trustworthy – and the same goes for Winston – Helen’s Footstool.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Clarks self proclaimed competence seems to have taken a walk!
It is very unlikely Labour will poll higher than National. I doubt NZ First will be back. Her only hope is a minority Lab/green/Prog with Maori Party support. Why isn’t she going feral on Winston and securing votes from NZ 1 to labour?
The dirt he has on her must be very damaging.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Helen loves you… till you’re no use to her any more then its off to the glue factory.
Four legs good, two legs better.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Prime Minister Clark has to be trusted “to keep Winston’s secrets”, because she is depending on Winston – to keep Helen’s own dirty laundry away from the public eye. MAD – mutually assured destruction. INSANE.
As transparently corrupt as Winston has been, it’s been proven they suit each other to a tee – a perfidity “dream team”. They both inhabit the sewers of the NZ political scene, and are obviously perfect company for each other.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Truth & integrity are irrelevant sideshows. This is about Clarks naked lust for POWER at any price. If she had to sell her soul to the devil to cling to power she’d do it. At least she can manipulate Winston, notwithstanding of his knowledge of the LAX incident. This megalomaniac must be stopped.
September 13th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Helen sold her soul years ago.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
She’s not ruling out Peters and she’s standing on trust. Oh dear, Peters’ delusion must be catching.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
>He could call for mass deportation of Asian immigrants, and Helen would not rule him out.
He could call for mass deportation of Asian immigrants, and Helen would write it in to their coalition agreement and then appoint Peters to be Minister of Immigration.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
dad4justice “Helen sold her soul years ago.”
Isn’t she the one people sell their soul to?
September 13th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Nah, shes just a sub-contractor to the big guy.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Hagues – The devil operates a pyramid scheme and Clark has successfully risen through the ranks. There will be a few demons glancing nervously over their shoulders. Who IS this upstart?
September 13th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
The NZ public have been bought before. WFF and student loans ring a bell! Helen has something big up her sleeves. Her welcome mat for Winnie is just business as usual for this corrupt lot.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Clark, Peters, the word “trust”. Nothing but 100% unadulterated banana-republic politics and corrupt behaviour.
September 13th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Like BIG BRUV I dont think a “positive Campaign’ will win it for John KEY. He will be following the strategy of Gentleman Don BRASH… The Young Nat’s Posters show a disappointing lack of initiative the final slogan in this post would have been more effective and would have registered with voters. Lukewarm polite disagreement won’t. So far CLARK hasn’t let a public moment pass without putting in a nasty jibe and she knows how to win, don’t National want to?
September 13th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
is the realisation sinking in yet that it is all slipping away from you..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
“He could call for mass deportation of Asian immigrants, and Helen would not rule him out.” Rush of blood? Come on now, DPF, that’s the kind of horse-pooky assumption that passes for coinage at the VDS – not here, mate.
[DPF: Not at all. Clark has shown herself to be so desperate for power, and so devoid of ethics in regards to Peters that she would excuse anything he does]
September 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Talking shit again, eh phil? Helen campaigning on trust is like phil campaigning on proper capitalization and grammar.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
no beautox..clark is going to hammer key..
and national have no coalition partners..eh..
just yellow-jacket..and dunny-brush..
three more years of opposition..eh..?
chin-up..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
How many demerits should Phul get for blatant trolling ?
September 13th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
you are going to be really pissed off when you lose..aren’t you bb..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Someone please get this billboard up:
[PHOTO: Clark and Peters holding hands.]
HEADLINE: This election is about trusts.
LOGOS: NZ Labour + NZ First
SLOGAN: Forward together.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Heh, i’m sure Labour are kicking themselves for not using that one during the EFA debate.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
dad4justice
“Helen sold her soul years ago.”
Can a communist have a soul? Surely such a though would be against her ideology.
But then no soul, no morals, can never be wrong, her rules, Winnie is is okay till I don’t need you.
September 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Why do I have the feeling that Helen banging on about ‘trust’ yesterday will become the famous last words of this campaign?
September 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
not even aunty’s girlfriend would dare stand in the way of auntys new found “friendship” with winston. The dirt he must have on her will be of this magnitude. Remember the headlines years ago “I am not a lesbian”?
Winston knows something.
September 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
someone please get this billboard up..
photo: john key and lord ashcroft..holding hands..
headline:..this election is all about trust..how can you possibly trust these two..?
logo:..national party logo..and the words ‘lord ashcroft’..’bagman’..and ‘waitemata trust’..
slogan:..let us screw you again..together..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
“..[DPF: Not at all. Clark has shown herself to be so desperate for power, and so devoid of ethics in regards to Peters that she would excuse anything he does]..”
are you losing it..?..dpf..?..
..is blind natty-panic setting in..?..
(if not..why not..?..eh.?..whoar..!..)
‘mass deportation of immigrants’..y’reckon..?
(can i suggest a cup of tea..and a wee lie down..?..)
and..um..!..you haven’t been reading too much rat-biter..?..have you..?
you guys are all just bummed because the ‘peters-plan’..
..hasn’t worked out as well as you hoped/plannedis looking to be an abject failure..eh..?
what does it mean when you end up worse off than when you started..?
..oh..!..that’s right..!
..losers..!
..phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
“are you losing it..?..dpf..?..”
Retard comment of the year. Look into the mirror you sick lefty. Where are your mates sonic and rogered gnomer?
You have lost the plot phoool !
September 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
and dpf..could you please answer this from another thread..?
…it would seem someone has been impersonating me at wikipedia..
..and has got me banned..
# philu (3074) 0 2 Says:
September 13th, 2008 at 9:44 am
“.. David Farrar (937) Says:
September 10th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
DC: Very nice investigative work. So Phil U is a Wiki vandal also. Giving John Key the middle name of Slippery is pure vandalism. ..”
dpf..is that a real comment by you..?
..or am i being ‘faked’ again..?
and if this wikipedia thing isn’t all made up..
..is there any way i can get it ‘put right’..?
..as i have never edited anything on wikipedia..
..your advice/response would be appreciated..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Of course it was you Phul, that is the kind of thing a low life would do.
September 13th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
None of your edits would be held on wikipedia, phil, not enough room to contain the dot dot dots and eh eh ehs.
September 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Ever since the theft of $800k and the subsequent legislative change to cover her ass, I have feared how far Helen Clark will go to retain power. I hope the MSM keep a close eye on her. Till recently I have despaired at them ever doing so, but with the likes of Audrey Young on the job, I have more hope!
September 13th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Phil, being a beneficiary, how much do you get a week?
September 13th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Philu.
Its called *bitter irony* or *poetic justice*.
We all know you’re simply a pathetic brain dead troll.
September 13th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
“She knows that he lied to her and to the public. The whole country knows he lied. But Helen says no problems.”
Actually, he told her the whole truth……..
……about her husband, in Los Angeles………
…….and his part in getting him out, without prosecution…….
……or a media frenzy……..
…….and now they are fused at the hip……..
September 13th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Sorry everyone: I’ve just wanted to assure everyone that (notwithstanding the format of my last post) I’m not philu.
I don’t sit at home with my child, and the curtains drawn……
September 13th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I’m working on a billboard….
….Picture of Bronagh Key: “Checks that the kids wash their hands after using the toilet”…..
….Picture of Peter Davis: “Fornicates in toilets”…..
September 13th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Whoar said “photo: john key and lord ashcroft..holding hands..”
What a surprise: the cook/baker supporting Helen, Winston and her venal allies? And he calls himself a Green (deluded, bewildered, and outspaced)?
Rightly so, I reckon.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Phil(u)seless:
Why selectively quote when you could also mention this:
Hmmm.
September 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
still loansharking to the poor..?..man-so-low..?
along with the booze-pushing..?
it’s a ‘good earn’..
..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
still pushing drugs Phul?
September 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
still beating your wife and children..?
bb..?
oh sorry..
i was getting you mixed up with someone else..
..i forgot you are a sad lonely loser..
..with no-one..
..ever..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
‘Slippery John’ is a very dangerous nickname – for Labour.
‘Sleazy Helen’ is much more plausible.
If Labour keep telling lies about National, the Nats might just abandon the positive campaign and start telling the truth about them.
Part of the strategy should be to make potential Labour aupporters feel unclean – and that means marshalling the mountain of evidence in the most compelling way.
September 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
first day..
key goes to sth ak markets..
(video footage showing him with that sickly smile he gets when internally panicking/uncomfortable..
cf..questiontime in parliament..where/when he is being mauled
..by either clark..or cullen..)
..clark says he is ‘delusional’..
..and was totally out of his depth..like a tourist..
..and that he should have gone where he really wanted to..
..the northern club..
that’d be..clark 1..
..key..zip..
(this is going to be so much fun..!..)
and..it’s all that bagman/lord ashcroft stuff..
..that earns him the label ’slippery’..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
And what about this one:
[PHOTO: Rodney Hide in yellow jacket presenting to camera a silver salver bearing the head of Winston Peters.]
HUGE HEADLINE: Berkbuster.
September 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
and just on that lord ashcroft ’secret’ meeting for a mo’…
did you nattys ever find out who leaked all the details of that meeting none of us were ever meant to find out about..?
(my money’s on bill..eh..?..as part of his white-anting leadership bid./’long game’..)
and i eagerly await his next installment..
it adds a certain ‘frisson’ to the proceedings..
eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz).
September 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
how about this one..
photo of key and lord ashcroft..
ashcroft has his hand/arm disappearing up the back of keys’ pinstripe suit coat..
huge headline:..puppet..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
National needs to take the underbelt hits from Labour and keep on driving the positive message. Labours strategy will be to bring Key down to the evil ones level.
Joihn should just use lines like “Thats her opinion and its humbling that she’s paying so much attention to what I’m doing, I wish I could reply but I’m too busy focusing on a better and more positive NZ”
September 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
……..and Philu continues to demonstrate that he is a pathetic brain dead troll
September 13th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Unlike Helen, Key doesn’t like dealing with crooks and liars.
Helen needs Winston as much as Winston needs Helen. Helen needs Winston to have power, and Winston needs Helen to have power. If Helen isn’t in power after the election (pretty please) but Winston is in parliament, then Winston be a back bencher and like one of annoying little dogs that bite your ankles and yap a lot.
Pigs in a sty usually lie together.
Think about it, it’s a a double entendre
Post a comment on my blog if I’ve lost you.
http://www.kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com
September 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
So far National appear to be playing a very risky game, ie assuming that an appetite for change will be enough for victory, so they can afford to be coy about what they’d do if elected to government. This is a dangerous strategy, as it may gift to Labour the opportunity to replay the “Secret Agenda” record, over and over and over. Also, it could be based on a false sense of security – voters may flirt with the new for a while but when push comes to shove, go for the safer “devil that is known” option.
I also worry about John Key. Watching him tonight on TV3, he comes across as such a thoroughly decent man. But not entirely comfortable, especially when dealing with conflict and dissent. This doesn’t engender confidence, especially when coupled with the “Fresh” buzzword (which, according to my dictionary, can mean – of a person – attractively youthful and inexperienced). He’s got to be careful not to suffer the same fate as other Mr Nice Guys.
So during this campaign, I’d like to see JK come out on the front foot, artfully dodge the mud missiles and confidently spell out in unequivocal terms exactly what National will do in government; punctuated by some exciting, innovative and intelligent policy announcements.
September 13th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Pathetic, philu, pathetic.
September 13th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
A Royal Commission into political corruption would be a good start. Our current *cough* leadership are inspirations for the next generation of chardonnay despots the world over.
September 13th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Philu, having lurked on these forums for an eternity, and hardling posting, you have always reminded me of something I recall from childhood (geeky) days. It’s finally clicked as to what it was.
The term is a Prootwaddle.
September 14th, 2008 at 12:11 am
“how about this one..
photo of key and lord ashcroft..
ashcroft has his hand/arm disappearing up the back of keys’ pinstripe suit coat..
huge headline:..puppet..!”
Phule. how about this one..
photo of Clark and Owen Glenn..Glenn has his cock disappearing up Clarks arse..
huge Headline: SHAFTED BY YOUR DONOR!
LOL
September 14th, 2008 at 7:47 am
More shameful behaviour from Hels and Labour.
September 14th, 2008 at 9:54 am
aah..!..the pithy/witty/intelligent observations of young pat starr..
(it’s the subtledelicate shades/shadings he employs..that impress..
..eh..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 14th, 2008 at 10:04 am
I like this headline too “Donor sticks Boner up Ungrateful Moaner”
September 14th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Phule. The problem is the MSM have no flair, look at the link
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10532067
and then tell me if “Helen witnesses first erection” would be more fitting?
September 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am
How about a photo of Clark ignoring Glenn at the Business School openng with the slogan
“Lost Labours Love”
September 14th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
@John Ansell:
PHOTO: Rodney Hide in yellow jacket presenting to camera a silver salver bearing the head of Winston Peters.
HUGE HEADLINE: Berkbuster.
Here’s the best I could do relatively quickly… No yellow jacket, unfortunately:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2lu4bx4.jpg
October 7th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
willnz: I hope you see this.
I’ve just been alerted to your excellent shot by a journalist. It’s even better than I imagined. Well done.