I cannot walk away from the truth

September 12th, 2008 at 11:30 am by David Farrar

That is the quote from the brother of Labour MP . He says:

Champion horse trainer says he approached with his recollection of Winston Peters thanking him for the $100,000 donation because “I cannot walk away from the truth”.

Mr Moroney said when the story broke and he saw Mr Peters’ continued denials he realised he had crucial knowledge. “I said to people: ‘I am staggered by what’s happening here’.”

He then made a “personal decision” to tell Mr Glenn what he knew knowing he was coming to New Zealand to appear before Parliament’s – but never spoke to him directly, dealing only briefly with an assistant.

So he was not asked by Glenn to confirm Glenn’s story. He came forward on his own volition, because he could not walk away from the truth.

Mr Moroney said he expected a backlash from the racing community as Mr Peters was a popular minister.

“This is not about the racing industry. This is about the truth. And I cannot walk away from the truth.”

And he told the truth even though it was not in his best interests to do so.

This is a key point to remember.

Owen Glenn saying that Peters solicited the money does not advantage Owen Glenn. If anything it has disadvantaged him. Paul Moroney saying he witnessed Peters thanking Glenn does not advantage Moroney, it disadvantages him.

Winston Peters saying that he knew nothing about the money advanatges Peters massively.

Mr Moroney said he realised he had put his sister, Labour MP Sue Moroney, in an “awkward position”. He had informed her of his knowledge about three months ago without telling her the full story.

Now who thinks that Sue Moroney would not have told that her brother witnessed Winston thanking Glenn for the donation?

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30 Responses to “I cannot walk away from the truth”

  1. Murray (8,844 comments) says:

    Good for him.

    There’s hope for the Labour Party.

    Not immediate hope or hope with the Clark/Cullen clown car of corruption towing the wagon, but hope nonetheless.

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  2. Inventory2 (10,267 comments) says:

    “Now who thinks that Sue Moroney would not have told Helen Clark that her brother witnessed Winston thanking Glenn for the donation?”

    Ummmm – Winston Peters? Mike Williams?

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  3. goodgod (1,348 comments) says:

    You know, I’ve always wondered who the bird was, with the permanent sneer etched on her face, that sits behind Helen in the house.

    This post has solved the mystery I never cared much about solving.

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  4. Alan Wilkinson (1,868 comments) says:

    Yep, this one is the final silver bullet for the zombie that won’t die.

    And the knockout punch for Clark’s credibility.

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  5. big bruv (13,686 comments) says:

    NEWSFLASH!!!!

    The corrupt PM has a news conference scheduled for 12.30 today, it is widely expected that she will announce the date of the election, that date is expected to be November 8th.

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  6. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    John 8:32

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  7. GPT1 (2,116 comments) says:

    Well I guess it is possible like 99% of the rest of us that Helen Clark didn’t know who SUe Moroney was either.

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  8. ross (1,437 comments) says:

    Helen Clark will of course go down as NZ’s first elected female Prime Minister. But in another life she could’ve been remembered as NZ’s first stateswoman. That, alas, will elude her.

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  9. GPT1 (2,116 comments) says:

    Nice quote Hagues: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”

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  10. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    Yes but ironically this time the truth may lock someone up! But of course it has set Paul Moroney free.

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  11. Murray (8,844 comments) says:

    Unlike with Clark where its “works shall set you free” or some such translation.

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  12. Right of way is Way of Right (1,121 comments) says:

    My own question is, why are Labour and NZF so afraid of the truth?

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  13. Murray (8,844 comments) says:

    Why are vampires afraid of sunlight?

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  14. adc (588 comments) says:

    Mr Moroney coming forward and contacting OG (or representative) doesn’t necessarily mean that OG didn’t ask him to confirm his story. E.g.

    M: Hey O.G, I’ve got some interesting information for you [the "coming forward"]
    OG: What about?
    M: about that lunch at Karaka with Peters
    OG: hey, would you be prepared to go on record about that? [the "ask"]

    the two things are not mutually exclusive.

    Or was it a Peters claim that O.G coerced Moroney?

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  15. insider (1,028 comments) says:

    ross

    If that happens then history has got it wrong. HC was not the first elected female PM, Jenny Shipley was.

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  16. Grant Michael McKenna (1,158 comments) says:

    In response to the question as to who thinks that Sue Moroney would not have told Helen Clark that Sue’s brother witnessed Winston thanking Glenn for the donation, which DPF posed, I refer to the conversation between Alice and the White Queen in Chapter V [Wool and Water] of Alice in Wonderland by Charles Lutwidge Dodgson [Lewis Carroll]:

    “Alice laughed: “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.”
    “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

    edited for clarity- and a thought; breakfast is over.

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  17. Dock (43 comments) says:

    Insider.

    Jenny Shipley was not NZ’s first elected female Prime Minister.

    She rolled Bolger when they were sitting on the Treasury benches and then got rolled herself.

    Anyway what a happy day.

    I listened to Tamahere and jackson on Radio yesterday and couldn’t believe the number of idiots who still believed that Winston was a Champion of the little people and was being unfairly attacked by leftovers of the winebox enquiry.

    If he gets back in on this platform I too am leaving this country.

    Had enough of illiterate idiots who qualify for a vote because they breathe air and are over 18.

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  18. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    I’m with insider on this. The system we have allows the PM to be elected by the Caucus of the ruling party, not directly by the population. NZers voted National into govt National later elected Jenny Shipley as Prime Minister. That is the democratic system we have.

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  19. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    Hagues: “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”

    there is a new translation for that quote, it now reads “You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free, but not before it pisses off a pile of people !”

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  20. davidp (3,576 comments) says:

    This Moroney bloke deserves a medal. He seems to have more ethics than the entire Labour/NZ First Government put together.

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  21. Rex Widerstrom (5,349 comments) says:

    Indeed this is a crucial point which covers a vast number of people… in fact it could be said of everyone who’s come forward with evidence or information damaging to Peters. A government Minister is in a powerful position, able to influence (or ask his or her colleagues to influence) any number of things which can have a major effect on the life of an individual. Added to that the ability to slander under cover of Parliamentary privilege and anyone who stands up is placing themselves at some sort of risk.

    The many people who’ve come forward and the many whose identities are generally known “around the beltway” and who’ve openly called for his dismissal (including DPF, Busted Blonde and Whaleoil) are to commended along with Paul Moroney. It’s to be hoped that enough people now know the truth – or enough of the truth – that we’ll see November 8 put an end to the travesty that NZ First has become.

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  22. John Ansell (874 comments) says:

    Great to see some selfless honesty – give that man a DB.

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  23. baxter (893 comments) says:

    Sue Moroney MP should now be called before the Privileges Committee to state who she told about the information she had received from her brother and when.

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  24. Ross Miller (1,686 comments) says:

    Paul Moroney ‘can’t walk away from the truth”.

    Well, I know of someone who can and who had the audacity to talk about ‘trust’ in announcing the election date.

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  25. Advocate (1 comment) says:

    Perhaps the most concerning aspect to the allegation and counter allegation over whether Winston Peters knew or ought to have known about significant donations to his legal costs by businessman Owen Glenn, is that it amounts to a monumental smokescreen distracting the electorate from what it really should be focussing on, namely economic policy and fundamentals.

    Whilst the NZ body politic decries the “playing of the man” rather than the ball, the truth is that we all enjoy the spectacle of the gladiatorial joust represented by the Winston – Glenn saga.

    Nothing like knocking the tall poppy from his position of prominence to excite the average kiwi.

    We have a huge national penis envy when it comes to taking down tall poppies. If they are political talents then so much the better. The higher they go the more dramatic the fall ! That is almost as enjoyable as taking down business leaders – after all why should those bastards have more than the average man ? They must obviously be thieves ?

    As a country we neither respect nor applaud achievement at any level, whether it be political, financial or intellectual.

    The short point is that these sort of distractions are simply what the communists would have described as the “opium of the masses”.

    They serve to make us forget for a moment the financial crap that we wallow knee deep in – high interest rates, falling job market, withering and accelerating population loss to Australia and an ever sinking lid on the quality of health services available to the remaining population to name but a few of the obvious things that affect our economy and thereby our future and those of our children.

    At a time when the average New Zealander is heartily sick and tired of the American style gangsterism that permeates our larger population centers we have to endure yet more US cultural imports in the style of politics that now presents us on the dawn of the general election.

    The “presidential” style of politics in which the marketing of the leader of a political party is the most substantive aspect of campaigning deprives the country of effective participation in the electoral process.

    Political discussion is limited to radio talkback, campaign ads and TV interviews.

    The consequence is an ill informed electorate who cast their vote on the basis of style rather than substance.

    Smoke and mirrors as those who seek power try to fool us into removing those who have it.

    Instead of this nonsense the debate should continue to focus on what we can or should do to improve the lot of the average family – to encourage employment, education and respect for the law and our fellow citizens.

    The reality is that the only people who are truly free are those who are economically free, the rest is just “somebody talking” as the song goes.

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  26. Joe Dirt (1 comment) says:

    All Id like to know is why now does the fate of the country rest on what Owen Glenn thinks or says. I dont really care what his opinion is on Helen Clarke, or Peters or even the weather for that matter. Wasnt he listed as an expat? If he is so interested in how the country is going why doesnt he live her and provide some useful input.
    Shouldnt the real issue be what policies each party will introduce. Quite frankly I havent heard what either major party really has in mind for the country.

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  27. dad4justice (8,097 comments) says:

    Trust is in the field in Klarkland? What race is that? Corruption is the hot favourite.

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  28. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    Can someone link me to a Greypower blog site in Tauranga?

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  29. GNZ (228 comments) says:

    Yeah Hagues is right – it is nonsense to have a list of “elected female prime ministers” (particularly now that we have MMP) unless you use the term to refer to “the prime minister that the elected representatives elect” in which case Shipley is in.

    BTW I have the impression Paul Moroney isn’t a Labour person, he is just related to one.

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  30. riki (224 comments) says:

    So who was it that two days ago spoke up to the media and said he was there and that Paul Moroney had left the vicinity when Winston Spoke to Glenn at Karaka and that at no time were Winston and Glenn seated together.

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