Lie #9,087,425

September 9th, 2008 at 8:00 am by David Farrar

From the NZ Herald:

Mr Peters did not return calls last night. Despite being asked, he has never said when he became aware of the trust. On July 29 he told a press conference that he had no knowledge of what the trust was used for.

So he said he had no knowledge of what the trust was used for.

The Herald has learned Mr Peters was aware of how much money was kept in the trust at certain times, and that he directed staff to get it to pay party expenses from 2005 onwards.

This is no surprise.

But the trust’s existence was kept so secret it paid over $100,000 in bills that senior party officials did not even know they had.

The ’s bill payments for the party included $87,648 in 2006 – but the party’s president, secretary and treasurer from that time yesterday said they had no idea the bills even existed, yet alone that they were paid.

The Deputy Leader is also on the record as saying he had never heard of The Spencer Trust. So that doesn’t make it hard to conclude who did. Meanwhile Helen says that Winston should not be held liable for the mistake of the staff in the party head office. First of all the party head office is his Ministerial bauble suite, and secondly no Officer except Peters even knew about it.

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11 Responses to “Lie #9,087,425”

  1. Monty (944 comments) says:

    I listened to podcast if Newstalkzb with Holmes interviewing clark last night – and then I listened to it again – she sounded very stressed and annoyed – this has gone on way too long for her liking – she knows she has backed the wrong donkey in this race – Winnie will not be back after the election, and nor does he deserve to be. I also think today Clark will be exposed as a liar by Owen Glenn. She has been in it up to her neck and is now realising that the attacks by her duck and rotty will back fire on her. WE all know Winnie is a liar and is corrupt – I just hope that Clark’s lies and corruption is now also exposed today.

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  2. virtualmark (1,421 comments) says:

    To give Winnie his dues, I suspect he’s an absolute master at Bill Clinton-ish clever selection of words. Examples like “he had no knowledge of what the trust was used for”. I for one think it’s all too-clever-by-half semantics, and I suspect the average voter in the street does to.

    But in legal proceedings, or legal-like proceedings like the Privileges Committee, he may just be cleverly enough phrasing his statements to allow him to wriggle out of the worst outcomes. Thankfully, being a slippery bastard doesn’t endear you to the voters, so I still think Winnie is a goner on the 8th of November.

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  3. virtualmark (1,421 comments) says:

    Monty, I agree. I think Helen will be rueing not putting more distance between herself and Winnie, and not sacking him once the SFO investigation was announced. A bit of careful lancing at that stage would probably have averted having the whole boil explode this afternoon when a scorned donor with nothing to lose fronts at the Privileges Committee.

    Others have pondered whether Winnie has something on her. Personally I suspect Helen’s got the inside running to some cute UN post and desperately wants the ETS passed in order to secure the job. But if so I think the recent agricultural emissions coming off NZ First are likely to harm her chances of getting any big post-election gig.

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  4. dave (985 comments) says:

    Yeah I saw Winston at the airport last night. He was on the phone for ages. Looked very serious and alone. Probably trying to stitch things up with one of his four mates and didn’t know which lie to tell to reporters about his knowledge of the Spencer Trust – so he told them nothing.

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  5. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    I am looking forward, to when this is over and Winston is more guilty than the kid with his hand in the cookie jar, for the msm to question him over all the things he has said and get “answers” out of him. This question of course is just one of the many, knowing Winston this could play out for some time….. however, I am guessing he may have some time on his hands soon and may just miss the limelight.

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  6. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    I repeat the comment I made on another thread ….

    Helen Clark said that Winston Peters cannot be held accountable for Head Office stuff ups.

    Problem is that Peters is the Head Office … remember that their latest ‘nil’ return was delayed in being signed off pending the ‘mans’ return from o’seas.

    And of course the NZF Head Office is run out of their Parliamentary offices.

    The job of all NZF office holders is to do nothing more than ask ‘how high’ when Winston Peters sez jump.

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  7. Inventory2 (9,788 comments) says:

    And as I blogged last night Ross, Clark can’t have it both ways. It was HER, not the General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party to whom Mike Williams TWICE offered his resignation earlier this year. She must have been … ummm … ahhhh … confused.

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  8. damocles (83 comments) says:

    Oliver Cromwell said it best: “You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go.”

    British MP Leo Amery quoted the same words in a speech in May 1940 aimed at failed appeaser Neville Chamberlain. The PM’s resignation followed soon after. We can only dream of similar results in Aotearoa.

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  9. Michaels (1,317 comments) says:

    I just heard Clark on ZB’s news saying when asked if she was meeting with Glenn…..”I do not meet with those who donate to the party”.
    Interesting…… she hasn’t meet Owen Glen before then?
    Now please correct me if I’m wrong, but do these words now confirm that our PM is a liar?

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  10. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    If Grant Liddell does his job with any competentence he will get everyone of the NZ1 Party officals in one by one and grill them as to what part Luigi took in the administration of the Party

    And I bet they will all sing like canaries They will tell him nothing moved without Luigis say so. Come on At least some of them are CAs and B&S They are liable to be slung out of their professional bodies and never practise again

    All it needs is a little blow torch to be applied down their Y fronts to remind them that singing might be the differenc between a censure and and an outski.

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  11. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    The head honcho’s in New Zealand last must be rather simple minded souls. Surly it must be obvious even to the most stupid amongst them things did not add up. Are you trying to tell me not one of those in the top echelons of NZfst did not ask who was paying the bills. These people are in la la land, who did they think was paying the bills?. The whole thing smells like a dead cow thats been in the hot sun for three days.

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