They would generally vote National or similar.

Why? Because they are well educated and motivated!

More telling is the number of Immigrants allowed in under the Investor Category over the last ten years.

(DPF, please can you do some research under OIA about the gross inflow by month under this category?)

It occurs to me that Health Professionals are understandably allowed a fast track. There will also be many other sensible skills shortages that are addressed within the Dept. of Labour.

However wealth creators are actually scorned. Why? because they might vote National/Act

472,000 ex-NZ’rs have decided they don’t give a fuck. They left for a reason and dont intend returning anytime soon. Most of whom take a passing interest in the AllBlacks or a NZ nature documentary and thats about it.

Thanks Labour for causing the biggest mass migration of intellectual capital known in the OECD in the past 20 years – even MORE than Ireland and they had a civil war.

Fuck you Labour.

Fuck you very much.

2000 years of coal in the ground, and all we can do is fiddle with snails and try to ban it. From memory only 8% of NZers think that coal should play a larger role in our energy production.

We are so ruled by environmentalists we almost deserve to go under as a lesson to future civilisations. We are to Australia what South America is to North.

(of course I’m also appalled by the cherry-picking of 2003 as the start year, but I didn’t really expect any better from here)

“Thanks all.

Philbest, it was recently in the news that out of 500,000 overseas NZers able to vote, only 28,000 decided to do so. So dunno where you get that idea about the government wanting people to leave – another question should be ‘why don’t they (the overseas voters) care’? Some don’t think they’re eligible, apparently.”

Yes, that is a strange phenomenon, I half wonder whether there is some kind of perverse psychology at work here, where they WANT their move overseas to be justified, they’d actually feel a bit pissed off if things improved back home so that their emigrating looked like a waste of effort…….. is that a bit of a long shot suspicion? Perhaps, too, they’re too busy doing what they emigrated for, to care……

removing the nanny state is certain to encourage people to return. Many of National’s policies (or politics) will do that.

I guess that’s what they’re hoping and, in my opinion, falsely implying. What evidence do you have for your assertions? The only analysis I’ve seen suggests there’s many exogenous factors hence my comment earlier. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see skilled and ambitious kiwis stay in or return to NZ but I don’t see anything in National’s policies that’ll do it…

You can’t stop people emigrating.

I agree to a point, of course, which is why billboard promising no more tearful airport goodbyes was so ridiculous. In fact there are things that can be done to encourage people to return, but so far neither parties really done anything in this regard which surprises me.

economic policy is more likely to impact on PLT departures and/or NZers returning.

I agree with this too, up to a point. Sure the lure of wage benefits is a factor, but so is just the desire to see the world. No amount of economic activity is ever going to stop young kiwis from wanting to see Covent Garden or Wall Street. Weather’s a factor too. There’s no quick fix or silver bullet and National ought to stop pretending its a matter over which they have much control.

[DPF: A few years ago Paul I would have agreed most people leaving is about the OE or warmer climates. But in the last couple of years especially more and more people seem to be citing the higher income you get in Australia especially.

There will always be significant migration from NZ. But it would be nice to reverse the trend where it has been growing for the last five years]

[DPF: An immigration policy tends to only affect immigration not emigration. You can’t stop people emigrating. The economic policy is more likely to impact on PLT departures and/or NZers returning.

Translation: Helen’s reign is offensive to 3.5 times as many people today as it was 5 years ago.

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