Now it gets really dirty

September 14th, 2008 at 1:41 pm by David Farrar

Prog Blog is an unofficial blog on behalf of ’s Progressives.

Last week they did a blog post about a quote from saying “Young people are a group I’m passionate about”.

They commented beneath that

“So is Gary Glitter”

The post has now been deleted but it is still in Google Cache.

Someone e-mailed me this a few days ago but I only noticed the e-mail today. Some other blogs highlighted this earlier.

Hmmn, and even though the page has been deleted, it still shows up on their main site.

I think media should be asking the Hon Jim Anderton who writes Prog Blog for them, and does he condone comparing John Key to paedophile? Will someone offer an apology at the very least?

People said this would be a very dirty campaign, but not even I thought it would be that dirty.

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35 Responses to “Now it gets really dirty”

  1. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Another John Key attack site!

    I wonder when Limp Labour and the Past-it Progressives will find the time to put a few policies together. You know.. ‘Forward Together’ and all that.

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  2. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Someone should ask the Hon Jum if he has even the slightest intention of being a part of the next government.

    Or is he hugging Helens cement lifebelt along with the lead weight that is Winston Peters?

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  3. Grant S (146 comments) says:

    Dr Michael Bassett has been forewarning this for a long time now. For Helen Clark, surpassing Peter Fraser as the longest serving labour Prime Minister in the history of NZ is her Holy Grail, as well as continuing a program centered around the fundamental tenets of left-wing secular progressive ideology. And she will resort to anything to achieve it:

    Bassett –
    “There are times these days when the modern Labour Party seems beneath contempt. Be warned. There is worse to come. Because of the opinion polls, ministers are desperate and will do anything to hold on to office. “Whatever it takes”.”

    “Helen Clark, then Deputy Leader, told the assembled Labour MPs something that I wrote down carefully at the time. She said she would be – and I quote from my caucus notes – “as vicious, nasty and opportunist as anyone” in the fight to return Labour to the Treasury benches. Those remarks were a forewarning. The only religious belief most modern Labourites seem to hold is their divine right to govern, to impose their views on others”

    “Many modern Labourites are as devoutly anti-Christian as the Brethren are Christian. Labour’s creed of extreme feminism, gay rights, and political correctness is intolerant of old-fashioned Christianity. We have a modern “war of religions” on our hands. Both sides are using whatever it takes to do in the other. Both are obsessed with sex.”

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  4. Sector 7g (236 comments) says:

    “To members of I bet I can find 500 people who don’t trust John Key
    James Sleep
    The Standard has launched Campaign Hub 2008. It’s a webpageintended to help you get active in the election campaign.

    There will be a weekly update of political events and campaigns you can play a part in, posters and flyers that you can print off and distribute, Youtube videos to send around, and tips for campaigning. I encourage you all to sign up to the Facebook group or visit the page, print off some materials and go for it. You know we can’t trust John Key and National, so do your part to keep the Left in power!”

    This is going to get interesting. Whats the deal with flyers and posters?

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  5. Barnsley Bill (978 comments) says:

    I read somewhere that Clark had lent one of the standardistas to run the site for uncle jim

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  6. gazzaj (106 comments) says:

    That post is so bad – ridiculous, offensive, completely unbelievable, and doesn’t even make grammatical sense – that at first I thought it must be some kind of agent provocateur site set up to discredit Jim Anderton.

    Then I read some more and realised they’re actually serious. Just not too bright.

    Why they think a post like that could ever have a positive result for their candidate is beyond me..

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  7. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Many modern Labourites are as devoutly anti-Christian as the Brethren are Christian. Labour’s creed of extreme feminism, gay rights, and political correctness is intolerant of old-fashioned Christianity. We have a modern “war of religions” on our hands. Both sides are using whatever it takes to do in the other. Both are obsessed with sex.”..”

    he really does just pluck it/blow it out his butt..that bassett..eh..?

    is he our premier rightwing curmudgeon..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  8. theodoresteel (90 comments) says:

    the campaign hub appears to be a very clever idea. It allows 3rd party people to upload posters etc. authorised by them, and as long as they don’t cross the spending limit for unregistered parties (I think) no breaches will occur. It basically just allows 3rd party material to be distributed by people who don’t want to put thier own names/addresses authorising it.

    Perhaps some kind of right-wing equivalent coordination of material for those who wish to hand out flyers/post posters could be helpful.

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  9. Vinick (214 comments) says:

    I hear the person who writes Prog Blog is VERY high up in the party.

    If it’s their number 3 (a somewhat winnable position) I think we have a right to know who we are electing to Parliament. To say that about another politician (whatever their politics) is so far over the line it isn’t funny.

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  10. Rex Widerstrom (5,278 comments) says:

    Murray asks:

    …is he hugging Helens cement lifebelt along with the lead weight that is Winston Peters?

    Well on the strength of that blog post he’s clearly hired the excreable little “Corporal” Ron Mark as his strategy advisor, so I’d say the answer to your question is probably “yes”.

    The fact that Anderton – at one time a man of sufficient courage to walk away from the Labour Party on principle – has spent the last nine years sharing government with a man (Peters) whose personality, policies and politics he despises, shows just how much the “whatever it takes” mentality has infected even those who once were above it.

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  11. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    I do hope Labour keeps up this ‘You can’t trust John Key’ nonsense.

    Ordinary people know there is absolutely no evidence that you can’t trust Key.

    In the spirit of fairness, they then ask themselves, ‘What about Clark?’

    And their minds flood with images of a lying prime minister, lying cabinet ministers, lying outside-of-cabinet ministers…

    And that’s just the lying.

    Then there’s the drunken-driving, the thumping, the tennis-ball-stuffing, the urinating, the peeping, the bonding and disciplining…

    All good trustworthy stuff warranting a fourth term.

    Surely Tui’s ‘This election is about trust’ billboard can’t be far away.

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  12. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Come on Vinick …. No. 3 in the ‘Jums’ Team a “somewhat winnable position”. The only reason they are there is because of ‘Jums’ seat. Jum goes, Progressives go, simple as that. There is real speculation they will quietly merge with Labour after the election anyway PROVIDED Robson is allowed to stand for Labour in Jums seat next time round.

    As for the post. Sick and despicable and entirely predictable.

    So much for Helen’s clean campaign which lasted less than 24 hours because for Jum read Helen as much as for Helen read Winston.

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  13. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Rex, Ron wont be drinking in the same corporals club as me and everyone else I know there in the near future.

    We’re fussy who we drink with.

    He’ll be up in officer country anyway.

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  14. dad4justice (7,791 comments) says:

    As many know I detest the abuse of children in shape or form as I have seen the damage first hand, however I couldn’t let Jum off the hook. I suppose the disturbed creep that posted that shit comment on that retard blog will like this joke that was doing the text rounds last week;
    Gary Glitter bought 100 cases of Glenfiddich scotch whisky today, because the salesman told him it’s a cheeky little 12 year old that goes down well.

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  15. Joely Doe (31 comments) says:

    That’s what I like about the internet. True colours posted loud and clear for everyone to see. They can’t even delete them when they are found out.

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  16. georgebolwing (612 comments) says:

    The left used to criticise the Tories for their “born to rule” attitude, yet are now themselves possessed of a manic determination to cling to power because they are convinced that their opponents are unfit to rule. I am sure that people like Michael Cullen, Phil Goff and Annette King justify their despicable behaviour by telling themselves repeatedly that they are all that stands between New Zealand and the barbarians.

    Once you have decided that you are the country’s only salvation, it is a very quick step to the ends justifying any means.

    While I am still fearful that Labour and their mates will win the election because they truly have no shame and there are no depths to which they will not plumb, my innate faith in the goodness of the average kiwi allows me to hope that the truth will out and Labour will be consigned to the footnote to history that they deserve.

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  17. Mike (162 comments) says:

    By the kiwiblog standard of reasoning, if Gary glitter has actually said that sentence then there;s nothing wrong with pointing that out surely?

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  18. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Vinick … further to my 2.35 …I see that in the Herald Poll the Progressives score 29 votes out of nearly 10,000 cast. Hardly a recipe for winning List Seats.

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  19. Vinick (214 comments) says:

    Ross,

    Firstly, the “poll” on the Herald website is not a poll at all, it is a self-selecting survey and means nothing.

    Secondly, when I said “somewhat winnable” that is not to say it is winnable, just that it is not outside the realms of possibility (like for example, being at number 60 for Labour, 73 for National, 34 for ACT or 9 for Libertarianz would be). My pick is Jim will get back, and MAY get enough party votes to ensure he is not an overhang.

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  20. Duxton (581 comments) says:

    “Ron wont be drinking in the same corporals club as me and everyone else I know there in the near future.

    We’re fussy who we drink with.

    He’ll be up in officer country anyway.”

    No, he won’t be. He was a barely adequate Captain, who managed to pick up an Acting Lieutenant Colonelcy in a mercenary paramilitary force. His subordinates were Pakistanis: need I say more……

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  21. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Vinick … please don’t put up ‘straw men’ to justify yourself. ACT ain’t going to score 24 seats nor the Libertarianz 9 and Jums mob certainly ain’t going to win 3.

    But the main and real point of this is that the Progressives, while they would like to pretend they are pristine whilte, will play as dirty and filthy as their Labour friends and colleagues because that’s all they have left in the tank.

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  22. Vinick (214 comments) says:

    Ross,

    Did you even read what I wrote? I said that number 3 for Progs is “somewhat winnable” (as in, not outside the realms of possibility) UNLIKE ACT getting 34 MPs, National 73 etc etc (which is outside the realms of possibility).

    Regardless, as I said (and you have said) it will not happen. My point was (in my initial posting) that voters should know if this person is a high candidate for elected office.

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  23. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Duxton … Acting Major actually. Look, Ron Mark and I will never see eye to eye but to give him his due he served and by dint of hard work was good enough to be commissioned (if that means enything). But he seems to exhibit the little man, big chip syndrome compounded by blind loyalty to Winston (although one hears he put out feelers to ACT).

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  24. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Vinick … mia culpa. I apologise. Your point well made.

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  25. Vinick (214 comments) says:

    “(although one hears he put out feelers to ACT)”

    That would be a most interesting development. You have to wonder what ACT’s response (particularly Rodney’s) would be. Can you shed any light on this Ross? ie- how serious it was, when it was, and how you heard?

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  26. Duxton (581 comments) says:

    Thanks Ross – happy to be corrected. If Ron Mark was an Acting Major, his entry on the NZ First website is actually incorrect. His substantive rank (ie, the one he is entitled to be referred to after retirement) is Captain, not Major.

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  27. Innocent bystander (163 comments) says:

    DPF, sure it would not be a very professional look for an official site endorsed by the party…good thing it isn’t. I hope you aren’t going to lose your sense of humour for the duration of the election campaign or kiwiblog is going to make for very dull reading for the next few weeks.

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  28. metcalph (1,384 comments) says:

    My understanding is that Ron Mark achieied rank as major in the NZ army and acted as a colonel in one of the gulf states.

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  29. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    Vinick … re Ron Mark. If he did am sure Rodney would have rebuffed him (wouldn’t he?). The reality is, I suspect, Ron Mark big noting.

    Duxton … you are perfectly correct. The convention is that you can refer to the highest rank achieved (and that includes Acting Rank) in a Commonwealth Army. To claim a rank in some ragtag mob sez quite a bit about the person doing so and I think the claim of Acting Lt Col in the Sultans Special Force would come at some suprise to a close colleague of mine who commanded him there.

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  30. Inventory2 (10,114 comments) says:

    It was me who sent DPF the e-mail. I posted about it on Wednesday, and then made it the feature topic of my Friday Forum – discussion was just getting going when someone stuck her oar in and named the date!

    It is an outrageous smear by Prog Blog – and I guess it shows the desperation of the left to hang on to power whatever it takes. It is crap politics by a pack of guttersnipes, and deserves an airing in the MSM.

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  31. Ross Miller (1,665 comments) says:

    And further to my 8.41 …. NZF has a history of inflating MPs military accomplishments. You will recall the case of the one term NZF MP tipped out at the last election who tried to pass himself off as a Vietnam veteran and SAS trooper and was introduced to the NZF Post 2002 election conference as such by no less a person than … Ron Mark.

    Apparently it was all just an innocent mistake (according to the then NZF Chief of Staff). They just assumed he was and he didn’t bother to read or correct his bio data!!!!!!! …. and Ian Pasley is a Catholic too.

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  32. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Like I said Duxton, he wont be in any corpies I’m in.

    Standards.

    And they sent the photos to the AGI to get them developed???? Morons!

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  33. RRM (9,478 comments) says:

    John Key – Gary Glitter?

    Honestly, if you get all hot around the collar because you think stupid and ignorant jokes like that are serious attempts to “smear” Key then you have a credulity issue and you need to chill the f*ck out!! I am sure anyone else who read that ridiculous comment on Prog Blog would treat it with the respect it was due, i.e. ignore it and move on…

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  34. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    The labour party is nothing but credulity issue RRM.

    Don’t like the bitch slapping then don’t be a bitch.

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  35. DJP6-25 (1,274 comments) says:

    They nare Socialists. There are few depths to which they won’t sink.

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