Owen Glenn

September 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm by David Farrar

Two interesting stories in the on , but first a little mystery.

A reliable source tells me that  that a crew member on Glenn’s boat, Ubiquitous, told a family member that a recent guest on the boat, when in the Mediterranean, was Labour Party president . Mr Williams it is reported spent several days on board.

It is also reported that Mr Williams left the boat hastily, after receiving a phone call from the Prime Minister who was not amused he was there.

Maybe someone could ask Mr Williams if he was on the boat as reported, and why he left.

Anyway first we have Matthew Hooton:

Owen Glenn is flying back to New Zealand to sink , Winston Peters and the corrupt government they lead.

I love Matthew’s subtle style.

Clark may soon have reason to regret the disgusting way she treated Glenn when he was here for the opening of the University of Auckland’s new Owen G Glenn Business School, to which Glenn donated more than $7.5 million. For Glenn, the immigrant schoolboy from Mt Roskill, who never had an opportunity to attend university himself, this was the culmination of his more than 40 years of success in business.

Clark ruined his day. Her almost unbelievable rudeness to the biggest benefactor of her own party and the country’s largest university shocked all decent New Zealanders. In public, she uttered not one word to Glenn, nor would she look him in the eye, and she sent her prize thug to keep him away.

Worse, Clark is believed to have turned on Glenn in private with angry words being heard through the walls by those in the next room.

It was meant to be a day of glory for Glenn, and he was treated as a leper.

Glenn will also have been fully briefed about the vicious smear campaign launched against him by Labour ministers and Beehive apparachiks. As usual, it was Mallard who sank furthest into the slime, reportedly advising people privately to check for scars on Glenn’s forehead, implying Glenn has received some type of brain surgery or electroconvulsive shock therapy. These are not nice people who surround Clark.

People may think Matthew is making this up. But not only did I hear the same thing at the Senate party in Wellington, the SST itself reports the smears in its main article on Glenn:

It can hardly have helped when Labour’s deputy, Michael Cullen, started describing Glenn as “confused”, and when rumours began to circulate in political circles that perhaps Glenn’s memory wasn’t quite what it was since his surgery last year to treat a life-threatening subdural haematoma (bleeding on the brain), something Glenn had openly discussed with the Herald in February.

The article quotes on Glenn:

More recently, the acerbic blogger “Cactus Kate” (the nom de plume of a Hong Kong-based New Zealand lawyer) took Glenn’s political temperature during a long conversation with him in Auckland’s Soul Bar in 2002, and came away convinced there had been a meeting of right-wing minds. Writing earlier this year, she recalled that, “I didn’t hold back on the government of the day and Mr Glenn was extremely supportive of the idea that they were all things evil … He did not seem to like the `sisterhood’, unless they were hot and invited him to watch. He bemoaned the lefties in New Zealand and their sexual habits … “

I suspect Mr Glenn donated to Labour because they were the Government, rather than any firm ideological commitment to centre left causes.

Anyway Tuesday will be a fascinating day.

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28 Responses to “Owen Glenn”

  1. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    “mmm yum… a prime minister… Now I’ll eat a foriegn minister…”

    “Hey Owen, what ya doin’?”

    “I’m eating filthy backstabbers.”

    “Filthy backstabbers!?”

    “Yeah, in a Nestle Backstabbers Bar! Every bar’s got five different filthy backstabbers, made from fullcream milk chocolate…mmmm now I’ll eat a party president…!”

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  2. Bryce Edwards (248 comments) says:

    The Glenn-Labour relationship is indeed curious, and no one has been able to properly explain why such a rightwing businessman would support Labour so generously. Partly, it’s because Labour isn’t actually as “centre-left” as DPF above suggests, and partly it’s down to personality rather than politics, as the two parties aren’t that ideologically different anymore.

    As I’ve written elsewhere: Glenn has said he grew up leaning more towards the National Party’s philosophy, and there is little indication that his politics have changed. Instead, the unusual alliance between the billionaire and Labour is more explainable by the fact that the politics of Labour and National have changed – to the point where Glenn is clearly comfortable aligning himself with the Labour Party. He notes that ‘National itself had moved towards the centre’, and therefore choices of government are now more about the quality of the personnel involved: ‘In my opinion, it comes down to the person at the helm’.
    Read more of this post on “The politics of Owen Glenn” at:
    http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2008/03/political-fin-1.html

    Also in relation to DPF’s post, see also my blog on the politics of Mike Williams:
    http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2008/03/political-fin-2.html

    Bryce
    http://www.liberation.org.nz

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  3. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    oh gee..!..maybe he was trying to ‘bed’ cactus kate..?

    y’know how men are..!

    and..dpf..you conveniently forget the facts that glenn has claimed..on the record..that he gave the half mill to the labour party..

    ..so they could..in his words..’fight off the exclusive brethren’..

    .yet the money was donated to labour six months before the election..

    ..when the only people who knew about the brethren were key/brash..who were meeting/plotting with them..

    ..glenn also claimed clark promised him a cabinet position.. (!!!)

    ..how to explain these two..off the wall..and on the record..claims by/from glenn..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    [DPF: Glenn is certainly a but of a braggart and confused about why he donated to Labour. But there is a world of difference between that and inventing that Peters asked him for the money. And as is clear to anyone not desperate to cover up for him, Peters would have contacted Glenn in Feb when told by the PM what Glenn said, if he genuinely did not know]

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  4. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Philip Ure – I’d rather focus on the meme that Glenn was so confused at Karaka that he mistook Sir Howard Morrison for Winston Peters – when it transpires that Glenn and Sir Howie are mates! Why would the Labour Party be trying to peddle a lie?

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  5. slightlyrighty (2,449 comments) says:

    It is going to be fun watching Labour try to refute the claims of their single largest benefactor when he fronts the comittee on Tues.

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  6. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    so..dpf..you say he is ‘a braggart and confused ‘..

    ..yet on this one..he is 100% on the money..?

    i mean..the claiming clark offered him a cabinet position is really the ‘woop..!..woop..!..pull up..!..pull up..!’ one..

    how can it not be..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    [DPF: The fact is Glenn said he donated money. Peters denied it. Glenn was right. Glenn admitted he exaggerated Clark's offer, but one can imagine there was a conversation where some sort of compliment about him making a good Transport Minister was made. Peters is denying he ever discussed money with Glenn, while Glenn is adamant there is no way he would have donated if Peters did not ask him, There is no way to reconcile the two, and why would Glenn have donated to help Peters, just to lie about it afterwards to harm him?

    More to the point Peters behaviour makes it clear he knew all about the donation. Otherwise he would have asked Glenn why he told the PM he donated. That is the smoking gun. No one can explain why Peters did not contact Glenn. ]

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  7. riki (234 comments) says:

    Helen is Helen, a public official, not of Troy

    Owen Glen on the other hand is a powerful industrialist who could smoke marijuana and be told by a judge that he hoped mr Glen had a comfortable environment to smoke his illicit cigarettes.

    When helen can do that as a public official of the beehive she will be his equal.

    Never going to happen and the commisar is going to learn a very strong lesson hard and fast
    when said industrialist opens his mouth that can’t be shut by bribes, a criminal duck or the EFB

    In fact the scenario is certainly that one man could end a govt; no matter who the opposition gets visited by.

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  8. Nomestradamus (2,774 comments) says:

    Inventory2:

    Your 3:17 comment is right on the money.

    It’s probably hyperbolic understatement to say the relationship between Glenn and Labour/Winston First is “broken beyond repair”. Labour can always be relied on to engage in smear tactics (including under parliamentary privilege) – as can Winston First.

    But here’s the puzzling thing for me:

    Labour would have us believe they’re <sarcasm> hardworking and conscientious ministers </sarcasm>. So why have they waded into a story that was, at least initially, about Owen Glenn and Winston First? One possible theory is it’s Labour’s (warped) idea of karmic payback for negative publicity about “cash for honours” (which is a story about Glenn and Labour – and a very good story). Another theory is Labour’s worried this will come back to bite them (Labour, not Winston First) on the election trail.

    By the way, Inventory, I know you’ll appreciate this cartoon – hilarious :)

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  9. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    a poll from the 3 news web site. -surprised 18% still believe him

    Have Your Say
    Who do you believe?
    Owen Glenn 82%
    Winston Peters 18%

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  10. gee90 (92 comments) says:

    It seems DPF inadvertently missed out the really interesting item in the SST:

    “Owen Glenn has been sailing the Mediterranean with a single white female aged 31. This demoiselle is an expatriate New Zealander called Mandii Pope. …
    Curiously, Ms Pope is also sought by National MP Craig Foss. A google of Mandii Pope’s name brought up the following listing: “We would like to chat to former Aucklander, now Londonite Mandii Pope. Anyone knowing of her whereabouts or more details please forward … craigfossmp.blogspot.com.”

    What is going on? Will Craig Foss MP tell us?

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  11. James (1,338 comments) says:

    Dream outcome for Tuesday…..Owen right royally fucks Winnies and Helen’s reputations in full public view…..then slips ACT/National $500.000 a piece to “bury those wankers!’

    ;-0

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  12. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Not sure what Owen Glenn can say or do to these Liarbore tossers but if he has come to kick some lefty arses more power to the man, I would happily shout him a beer.

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  13. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    ssb – you have the beef, so perhaps you can sort the BBQ. i’ll look after the beers. he probably likes those fancy euro brews…

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  14. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i am really puzzled how/why you are still trying to claim peters will bring down clark..

    the polls confirm she has successfully cauterised herself from any..if proven..peters malfeasance..

    and dpf..your ‘case’/’evidence’ is all circumstantial..and suppositional…

    ..and comes down to either faulty recall..or one persons’ word against another..

    …and that report on glenns’ mediterranean adventures would tend to support the case that glenn was telling kate what she wanted to hear..

    ..so he could fuck her..

    ..y’know..!

    ..like what national is trying to do to new zealand..?

    ..phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  15. big bruv (12,388 comments) says:

    Ha ha..thats a beauty, more Green hypocrisy.

    The drug fucked wreck argues that the Peters case is “circumstantial and suppositional” the DFW suggests that we should wait for the hard data or firm evidence.

    This is the same DFW who expects..or more accurately demands that we take the “circumstantial and suppositional” evidence of SOME scientists as absolute fact that climate change is man made.

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  16. Right of way is Way of Right (1,125 comments) says:

    Meanwhile on a yacht in Monaco.

    “Mr Williams, phone call for you!”

    “Thank you. Hello, Mike speaking.”

    “Mike, Helen! What the hell are you doing on that man’s boat!”

    “Well, we need to get a shitload of cash together if we are going to use the EFA to challenge the election when we lose, Helen!”

    “That’s not going to work Mike, get off that boat now!!…(Click)”

    “Owen, Helen says I have to get back.”

    “Oh dear Mike, this has to be the first occasion of a rat leaving a safe ship to board a sinking one!”

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  17. mara (642 comments) says:

    philu,…Somehow I don’t think the Glenns of this world tell “hotties” what they want to hear. It works the other way around. Surely. Also, Kate would be pretty hard to dupe. If I were HC now, I’d be wetting my sustainable, eco-friendly, carbon-neutral knickers and knocking back large third-world chardonnays.

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  18. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Nostredamus said “By the way, Inventory, I know you’ll appreciate this cartoon – hilarious :)”

    Indeed it is Nostredamus – which is why I posted it on Keeping Stock this very morning! For weeks Mike Morehu has been characterising John Key, but even he has changed tack this week, and targetted Clark and Peters – this one was a ripper!!

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/09/in-pms-sights.html

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  19. Paul Marsden (935 comments) says:

    Personally, I’m dumbfounded that a generous benefactor and philanthropist, can be treated so badly and disgustingly, by the Government of this country. Glenn is a man who has made significant contributions to the education sector in NZ and to whom we should all be grateful.

    I hope he is in possession of information that brings this Government down, and will tear them apart, limb to limb. Rude, arrogant, ungrateful bastards!

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  20. Cactus Kate (538 comments) says:

    CRAIG FOSS EXPLANATION

    In Fossy’s defence, this report in SST was incorrect. Someone lazily googled the woman. I don’t know how google works, the computer geeks among you will be able to explain it but as Craig has live feeds to other blogs it hit up a post I did

    http://asianinvasion2006.blogspot.com/2008/08/oh-mandii.html

    Therefore it was I looking for Mandii (and obviously found her). Craig Foss had nothing to do with it.

    And no Phil U – Owen Glenn was a gentleman at all times on the one time I have spoken with him. In fact of all the reports about the man, everyone (especially women) only has nice things to say about him socially.

    That he is fun, pleasant, likes the company of others and like any good man should – picks up the tab for all of it. He certianly does not deservce the snub that the Labour Party gave him and the treatment now.

    I hope he burns them all at a stake on Tuesday.

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  21. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    It’s a conspiracy! Don’t believe a word of this fantasy.

    From the smear machine that is based on the 9th floor.

    Owen Glenn, was abducted by Aliens. His brain was removed via an anal probe.

    He was retuned to his luxury Launch, and has no true memory of any Political donations.

    He is a chronic alcoholic, with advanced dementia.

    This man simply can’t be trusted to give a true and fair account.

    As Helen Clark said ” I have nothing to add, New Zealanders are sick of listening to this confused Mafia Boss, and frankly so am I!

    There is no benefit in me going to the Priv Com, to listen to the rantings of a brain dead Alien.”

    If you are going to smear, it is always best to tell big porkies

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  22. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    A quick question out of interest.

    Can the privileges committee compel Owen Glenn to tell them who the other party was he offered the $250,000 to to go with Labour? I was thinking they may be able to ask in finding background information to check the accuracy of Peters & his statements.

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  23. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I have said that Owen Glenn is far from finished with Labour after his nationally-broadcast humiliation by Helen Clark earlier this year. It will be interesting to hear from Owen Glenn tomorrow – I wonder if he will say the magic words ‘Mike Williams’ in his submission?
    Helen Clark has already thrown herself on one grenade when whe fessed up to knowing abut Owen Glenn’s donation since February. It remains to be seen who advised who to approach each other over NZ First donations. Was it Mike Williams, fixer and bagman for the Labour Party?

    Are ‘Mike Williams’ the magic words that Glenn is waiting to put into the public domain?

    http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/2008/09/what-are-magic-words.html

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  24. Duxton (547 comments) says:

    philu: “i am really puzzled how/why you are still trying to claim peters will bring down clark..

    the polls confirm she has successfully cauterised herself from any..if proven..peters malfeasance..”

    Think Los Angeles…..airport…..toilet…..intervention by Consultate…..with Peters’ connivance……

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  25. Inventory2 (9,791 comments) says:

    Lee – I’m with you, and have also posed some questions this morning

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2008/09/weather-warning-cyclone-owen-coming.html

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  26. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    is that ‘it’..?..duxton..?

    ..is that what you are ‘banking on’..?

    ..carry on..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  27. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Lee, she didn’t throw herself on a grenade she dodged a bullet by admitting it before Owen glen could put that bullet between her eyes.

    Throwing yourself on a greande is an unselfish act of those who care more for others than themselves.

    Not really the first description that comes to mind when speaking of Helen Clark now is it.

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  28. Dr Robotnik (533 comments) says:

    Do you think anyone on the 9th floor listens to Travis?

    Baby, youve been going so crazy
    Lately nothing seems to be going right
    Solo, why do you have to get so low
    Youre so…
    Youve been waiting in the sun too long
    But if you sing, sing, sing, sing, sing
    For the love you bring wont mean a thing
    Unless you sing, sing, sing
    Colder, crying on your shoulder
    Hold her, and tell her everythings gonna be fine
    Surely, youve been going too early
    Hurry cos no-ones gonna be stopped
    Na na na
    But if you sing, sing, sing, sing sing
    For the love you bring wont mean a thing
    Unless you sing, sing, sing
    Baby, theres something going on today
    But I say nothing, nothing, nothing
    Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing

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