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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486953</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a lot have missed the point.
I am not in prison, why?
Because I have not commited a crime.
I do not get arrested by the Police, I do not get shot or tazered

My house is cold over winter (power prices)
My TV has no Sky TV anymore (cost)
My Computer needs upgrading (cost)
My food bill has gone through the roof.

Yet the maggots in prison cry?
Poor little darlings need rehab into society.
Fuck off.

Shall I commit a crime and live the good life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a lot have missed the point.<br />
I am not in prison, why?<br />
Because I have not commited a crime.<br />
I do not get arrested by the Police, I do not get shot or tazered</p>
<p>My house is cold over winter (power prices)<br />
My TV has no Sky TV anymore (cost)<br />
My Computer needs upgrading (cost)<br />
My food bill has gone through the roof.</p>
<p>Yet the maggots in prison cry?<br />
Poor little darlings need rehab into society.<br />
Fuck off.</p>
<p>Shall I commit a crime and live the good life?</p>
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		<title>By: riki</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486883</link>
		<dc:creator>riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I see Black Power made a treaty claim.

Inmates will be next.  

They&#039;re in jail for being thugs and that&#039;s all they want to be with their precious nobody reputations.  

At least Fairfields been tamed.  &#039;Fearfield&#039; no longer.

They told me to stay out, now I walk through there anytime I want.

I think they in jail now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I see Black Power made a treaty claim.</p>
<p>Inmates will be next.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re in jail for being thugs and that&#8217;s all they want to be with their precious nobody reputations.  </p>
<p>At least Fairfields been tamed.  &#8216;Fearfield&#8217; no longer.</p>
<p>They told me to stay out, now I walk through there anytime I want.</p>
<p>I think they in jail now.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486878</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes Another advantage of my proposal is that smuggling by visitors will be much reduced.

Its aint easy to get stash onto the remote islands I favour as the new prisons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes Another advantage of my proposal is that smuggling by visitors will be much reduced.</p>
<p>Its aint easy to get stash onto the remote islands I favour as the new prisons</p>
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		<title>By: baxter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486868</link>
		<dc:creator>baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sixtyseven assaults goodness knows how many drugs and weapons confiscated, scores of visitors detected taking drugs in to prisons.  How many actually appear in court. It is extremely rare to see a repo0rt of any such case. It seems most of them must be hushed up and resolved secretly, so we never know what if any meaningful punishment is meted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sixtyseven assaults goodness knows how many drugs and weapons confiscated, scores of visitors detected taking drugs in to prisons.  How many actually appear in court. It is extremely rare to see a repo0rt of any such case. It seems most of them must be hushed up and resolved secretly, so we never know what if any meaningful punishment is meted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Braemar Road Brian.

North of it is the live fire impact zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Braemar Road Brian.</p>
<p>North of it is the live fire impact zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486824</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a personal note, I would love to see clayton weatherston left to rot in a prison run by other prisoners. That, above all other things, might warm the cockles of my bitter little heart.

Then again, I suppose Philu will come along and tell me that I don&#039;t have any right to feel that way, and that prison shouldn&#039;t be about punishment or vengeance, &quot;eh..?&quot;

The snivelling cretins who commit violent crime in our society are treated like royalty, and this latest abuse proves that &quot;prisoners&quot; aren&#039;t being punished by merely being in prison.

I reckon we should give them a spade, make them dig their own holes, chain them in there for 23 hours a day, with no shelter. Then, for an hour a day, we let them out to be beaten, tortured and raped by their own kind.

Maybe that&#039;s just my lust for vengeance talking.

(Edit: Deleted to avoid legal liability)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a personal note, I would love to see clayton weatherston left to rot in a prison run by other prisoners. That, above all other things, might warm the cockles of my bitter little heart.</p>
<p>Then again, I suppose Philu will come along and tell me that I don&#8217;t have any right to feel that way, and that prison shouldn&#8217;t be about punishment or vengeance, &#8220;eh..?&#8221;</p>
<p>The snivelling cretins who commit violent crime in our society are treated like royalty, and this latest abuse proves that &#8220;prisoners&#8221; aren&#8217;t being punished by merely being in prison.</p>
<p>I reckon we should give them a spade, make them dig their own holes, chain them in there for 23 hours a day, with no shelter. Then, for an hour a day, we let them out to be beaten, tortured and raped by their own kind.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s just my lust for vengeance talking.</p>
<p>(Edit: Deleted to avoid legal liability)</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486811</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have some small islands located to the south of Stewart island that would be ideal for keeping prisoners.

We might even  give them some basic building  materials to build a hut or shelter and do a food drop every so often

One thing for sure  The survivors would very reluctant to return and their crim mates would soon reform their behaviour.

Trouble is the Gumint and the wet blanet wankers dont have the guts to do it.  Betcha crime rates would drop if they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have some small islands located to the south of Stewart island that would be ideal for keeping prisoners.</p>
<p>We might even  give them some basic building  materials to build a hut or shelter and do a food drop every so often</p>
<p>One thing for sure  The survivors would very reluctant to return and their crim mates would soon reform their behaviour.</p>
<p>Trouble is the Gumint and the wet blanet wankers dont have the guts to do it.  Betcha crime rates would drop if they did.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486804</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..log on to phil(whoar.co.nz). A nice bit of mental torture there reading all your demented posts,.&quot;

um..whoar is a (daily) news-site/compilation of local/world news..

..in the main..i link to interesting stories..(others&#039; words..)

..so..they are not my &#039;demented&#039; posts..

..so ..factually wrong there..again..eh bloody-hands-bob..?

..but..y&#039;know..marks for consistancy..eh..?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..log on to phil(whoar.co.nz). A nice bit of mental torture there reading all your demented posts,.&#8221;</p>
<p>um..whoar is a (daily) news-site/compilation of local/world news..</p>
<p>..in the main..i link to interesting stories..(others&#8217; words..)</p>
<p>..so..they are not my &#8216;demented&#8217; posts..</p>
<p>..so ..factually wrong there..again..eh bloody-hands-bob..?</p>
<p>..but..y&#8217;know..marks for consistancy..eh..?</p>
<p>..phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smaller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486803</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You got something against tents and the Tekapo high country Brian?&quot;

As long as there is a clearly marked line of death, then no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You got something against tents and the Tekapo high country Brian?&#8221;</p>
<p>As long as there is a clearly marked line of death, then no.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486793</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philu  &quot;clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs . A further step is need...&quot; 

A further step

Prehaps these thugs should locked in a tiny room for six months with only bread and water but be supplied with computer and internet connection that can only log on to phil(whoar.co.nz). A nice bit of mental torture there reading all your demented posts, it would not be long before they would be complaining to the Geneva convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philu  &#8220;clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs . A further step is need&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>A further step</p>
<p>Prehaps these thugs should locked in a tiny room for six months with only bread and water but be supplied with computer and internet connection that can only log on to phil(whoar.co.nz). A nice bit of mental torture there reading all your demented posts, it would not be long before they would be complaining to the Geneva convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486764</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;GE “what if the prisoner most at fault has six month’s max of parole eligibilty and one of the others has a few years?”&lt;/i&gt;

Well maybe the others will think twice about joining in! Plus they can all have extra terms added depending on their level of involvement as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s sorta my point. If one&#039;s in for burglary, and another for repeat drink driving, then have them sentenced to the appropriate penalties for those at the time. And charge them each for assault (or injuring, or whatever) for their actions against the guards, and sentence them to the appropriate penalties for that. If you think they&#039;ll get out too qucikly after such actions, then don&#039;t automatically get rid of their parole eligibility for unrelated offending, instead give them really long sentences for the assault.

Of course tkae this into account when considering parole - they assaulted guards, this is an indication it is not going to be safe to release them, but imposing an automatic parole prohibition doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense - punish them with a conviction and a prison term!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>GE “what if the prisoner most at fault has six month’s max of parole eligibilty and one of the others has a few years?”</i></p>
<p>Well maybe the others will think twice about joining in! Plus they can all have extra terms added depending on their level of involvement as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s sorta my point. If one&#8217;s in for burglary, and another for repeat drink driving, then have them sentenced to the appropriate penalties for those at the time. And charge them each for assault (or injuring, or whatever) for their actions against the guards, and sentence them to the appropriate penalties for that. If you think they&#8217;ll get out too qucikly after such actions, then don&#8217;t automatically get rid of their parole eligibility for unrelated offending, instead give them really long sentences for the assault.</p>
<p>Of course tkae this into account when considering parole &#8211; they assaulted guards, this is an indication it is not going to be safe to release them, but imposing an automatic parole prohibition doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense &#8211; punish them with a conviction and a prison term!</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486756</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got something against tents and the Tekapo high country Brian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got something against tents and the Tekapo high country Brian?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smaller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486745</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philu - how about a compound with several fences and fields of razor wire, guard towers and a whole bunch of nissan huts.  Worked pretty well keeping prisoners inside in WWII.  They want to tunnel out or cross the wire then good luck to them.  Central Plateau would be a good location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philu &#8211; how about a compound with several fences and fields of razor wire, guard towers and a whole bunch of nissan huts.  Worked pretty well keeping prisoners inside in WWII.  They want to tunnel out or cross the wire then good luck to them.  Central Plateau would be a good location.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486732</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we put the first class deckchairs on the port side on the way out, starbord on the way home and keep sterrage seated below decks?

Ice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we put the first class deckchairs on the port side on the way out, starbord on the way home and keep sterrage seated below decks?</p>
<p>Ice?</p>
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		<title>By: getstaffed</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486730</link>
		<dc:creator>getstaffed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punishment?  Confine &#039;em and force &#039;em to watch endless replays of NZ-made TV drama&#039;s. Cheaper than bullets and a more effective deterrent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punishment?  Confine &#8216;em and force &#8216;em to watch endless replays of NZ-made TV drama&#8217;s. Cheaper than bullets and a more effective deterrent.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486727</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;..Clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs. A further step is needed..&quot;

so..pushmestrokeyougently..

um..!..public floggings..?..public (televised) executions..?..(for assault..)

what else did you have in mind..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;..Clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs. A further step is needed..&#8221;</p>
<p>so..pushmestrokeyougently..</p>
<p>um..!..public floggings..?..public (televised) executions..?..(for assault..)</p>
<p>what else did you have in mind..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: pushmepullu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/09/prison_guards_beaten_up.html#comment-486726</link>
		<dc:creator>pushmepullu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Dennis, cruelty towards prisoners doesn&#039;t bother me.  It&#039;s cruelty to guards that does.

When we start wondering about what is and isn&#039;t cruel to prisoners we start to think well gee willikers maybe we should not be locking them away to begin with!  And that&#039;s where madness sets in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Dennis, cruelty towards prisoners doesn&#8217;t bother me.  It&#8217;s cruelty to guards that does.</p>
<p>When we start wondering about what is and isn&#8217;t cruel to prisoners we start to think well gee willikers maybe we should not be locking them away to begin with!  And that&#8217;s where madness sets in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Colonel Masters&#039; idea would work better than any other to be honest, cruel as it might sound to some. Get the prisoners themselves to enforce the rules, they are obviously able to far more effectively than the guards are allowed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Colonel Masters&#8217; idea would work better than any other to be honest, cruel as it might sound to some. Get the prisoners themselves to enforce the rules, they are obviously able to far more effectively than the guards are allowed to.</p>
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		<title>By: dime</title>
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		<dc:creator>dime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it was a cry for help from the prisoners? maybe they know its the only way they will get some rehabilitation? or maybe they want to see a shrink? 

yes im taking the piss.. but on a serious note.

my best friend killed his gf many years ago.. he saw a shrink for the first time, 10 years into his sentence! the shrink explained &quot;the only way you get to see me is if you beat someone up or try and kill yourself&quot;. 

my friend had asked to see one 6 years before he was eligible for parole, never happened.

the prison system is a joke.

not only are we too leniant, when they are in jail, we dont even try anymore!

PC bullshit.. its a weird cycle.. when youre a child youre ok, then you become a man, the left think youre a sex offender waiting to happen.. then you go to jail and they love you again and ya have rights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was a cry for help from the prisoners? maybe they know its the only way they will get some rehabilitation? or maybe they want to see a shrink? </p>
<p>yes im taking the piss.. but on a serious note.</p>
<p>my best friend killed his gf many years ago.. he saw a shrink for the first time, 10 years into his sentence! the shrink explained &#8220;the only way you get to see me is if you beat someone up or try and kill yourself&#8221;. </p>
<p>my friend had asked to see one 6 years before he was eligible for parole, never happened.</p>
<p>the prison system is a joke.</p>
<p>not only are we too leniant, when they are in jail, we dont even try anymore!</p>
<p>PC bullshit.. its a weird cycle.. when youre a child youre ok, then you become a man, the left think youre a sex offender waiting to happen.. then you go to jail and they love you again and ya have rights!</p>
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		<title>By: pushmepullu</title>
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		<dc:creator>pushmepullu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh those poor little inmates traumatised by poverty and society into being forced to beat up on innocent prison guards... my bleeding liberal heart goes out to them.

Clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs.  A further step is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh those poor little inmates traumatised by poverty and society into being forced to beat up on innocent prison guards&#8230; my bleeding liberal heart goes out to them.</p>
<p>Clearly incarceration is no deterrent to these crazed thugs.  A further step is needed.</p>
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