Russell Brown on Peters

September 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am by David Farrar

Russell Brown is not too happy with on Peters:

The failure of the Labour members of the to find with the multi-party majority that Winston Peters had provided “false or misleading information on a return of pecuniary interests” was pathetic, and they know it.

And later on:

I hold no brief for Peters, and I suspect there will be worse to come on his and his party’s affairs. I think ’s comparison of the privileges committee’s action to a lynching (he even has a picture of a man being lynched on his blog) is revolting.

There is an interesting split occurring on the left. There are those who are disgusted with Labour and willing to say so. And there are those who are hugging Winston closer and closer and trying to turn him into a martyr and a hero.

Russell of course also has a go at , linking to the editorial in today’s Herald about him. I have previously blogged my criticism of the Tranzrail responses, along with my relief that unlike Peters and Clark who never admit they do anything wrong, Key did admit his mistakes.

I have said for some time that this election is ’s, unless they stuff up. This is not an impossibility, to put it mildly. It would be an incredible shame if they do stuff up, and we get a fourth term of Clark and Peters. They say we get the Government we deserve but seriously we’re not that bad are we?

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13 Responses to “Russell Brown on Peters”

  1. big bruv (12,348 comments) says:

    “They say we get the Government we deserve but seriously we’re not that bad are we?”

    I am beginning to think that we are DPF, nine years of Labour have turned us into a nation of bludgers and a nation of losers.

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  2. baxter (893 comments) says:

    Liabour has in common with Winston a common tactic of accusing National of using an abhorrent tactic when in fact they are pursuing it themselves. This has been apparent for some time but no more apparent than LiabourWinston accusing National of being in the pocket of big business when all the time they are accepting gratuities from Billionaires like Glen and Vela Bros. The most recent has been Clark/Cullen accusing National of being biassed against Liaborwinston when in fact they were trying to (unsuccessfully) corrupt the Maori party. The ambush on John KEY was successful because like Don BRASH he is too honest to obscure the issue as Liaborwinston does so successfully. If the dealings of the Trusts owned by Liabour politicians were exposed then there would be many a scoop for an unbiassed reporter if we could find one.

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  3. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,668 comments) says:

    How much tax payer funded salary money is being used by Labour to dig for dirt on John Key, then feed the dirt to tax payer funded journalists who in turn use it to discredit the Opposition Leader?

    David, you know your way around the place. How much do you reckon this last lot it cost?

    How many people do they have ferreting about and for how long and on what sort of salaries?

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  4. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    DPF:

    “I have said for some time that this election is National’s, unless they stuff up. This is not an impossibility, to put it mildly. It would be an incredible shame if they do stuff up, and we get a fourth term of Clark and Peters. They say we get the Government we deserve but seriously we’re not that bad are we?”

    Trouble is, DPF, there is a New Zealand, and there is another “New Zealand”. The “New Zealand” that gives us governments like we’ve had for the last 9 years, really IS that bad.

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  5. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    DPF Taking up Adolfs point is there any mechanism for a citizen to lay a complaint with the Auditor General on the grounds that Labour has admitted using its taxpayer funded research wing to undertake activities that are election related and have nothing to do with legitiamte governance activities.

    And require him to investigate and report

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  6. JC (838 comments) says:

    If we’ve got a problem then it goes back an awful long way. Back to Nordmeyer’s Black Budget even. From 1900 to 1950 we were first or second in the world by way of economy and quality of life, and as the world changed and we started to slip we refused to recognise that the day of the sheep was over and we needed to tighten the belt and develop new products and exports.

    Nordy’s budget proved that NZers refused to accept a change in our circumstances and we still talk about his perfidy in putting up smokes and booze. And in the mid 1960s the Holyoake Govt was secretly borrowing off Australia to maintain the “Swinging Sixties” and Rogernomics and Ruthenasia are swear words today.

    Neither we or our politicians have been prepared to accept responsibility for two generations at least, and we accept soft corruption as a matter of course. Labour and NZ1st, by virtue of their essentially backward looking natures are most put out and confused for being held responsible for shenanigans that they might have got away with years ago. Perhaps the landscape changed with the “Hollow Men”. For all it was bad for National and Brash, it was Labour and NZ1st that provided the concrete examples to the public of rorting and manipulation thereafter.

    I can think back five decades and see the manipulations we went through, the supreme “born to rule” arrogance of working on a National Party committee and the way we schemed to rort the taxpayer to keep land based industries on top and remember an Aussie politician saying to me at one stage “Your poor tax payers!”.

    Their reputations mightn’t be too flash today, but in the future the names of the politicians who tried to break this cycle were Douglas, Prebble, Richardson, Bolger and Shipley, but for now they simply represent the demons that the corrupt raise for their own unholy and retrograde purposes.

    JC

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  7. GerryandthePM (328 comments) says:

    I have come to the conclusion that the whole Peters thing has become an anti National, anti ACT thing rather than simply a pro Peters/ Labour coalition thing.

    Clark and Cullen detest National and Key so much that under no circumstances can National be seen to win on this, the biggest challenge to Clark’s right to call the shots.

    Bunker mentality.

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  8. berend (1,600 comments) says:

    DPF: “They say we get the Government we deserve but seriously we’re not that bad are we?”

    well…. If Labour promised the student loan wipe out and I had 100,000 ipredict stock on Labour, hmmm…

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  9. Turpin (342 comments) says:

    DPf
    We are.
    If we vote for shysters like Helen and Michael.
    Especially as we have no excuses now, we’ve seen what they do and say for 9 years.
    The jury’s out on John Key at present, though he is considered a bit of a flip flop.
    So it’s rather that the Nation wants rid of Helengrad and National’s the only real horse in town.
    Not that everyone wants to vote for them, just that many will as they definately don’t want Labour/Greens/NZFirst/UF back.
    That’s the news I get up and down the country outside the beltway.
    I’m waiting to see what bribes get offered next month!

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  10. culma (7 comments) says:

    Are these clowns going to be voted back in on the back of the lowering IQ’s of the average kiwi, all I can hope is the reason 40% more kiwi’s have registered for special votes is they may not live here anymore but can do something about the reason for that. Or has Mike Williams shifted his attention from supplying KFC to south Auckland, now going trans tasman with hungry jacks for all who tick the red square.

    Sadly the moral decay in this country starts at the top and is the only real legacy Helen Clark can claim as her own, assisted by Cullin with a staring role from Wilson. There have been some funny instances. The morning after her mountain guides demise, first light brings in the first helicopters full of cameras and who’d had a billboard makeover?Helen Clark trying to look sympathetically sincere didn’t really work.

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  11. kiki (425 comments) says:

    I’m with JC on this. Corruption has always been a part of the political landscape and each party is guilty at some point of taking money for privileges or using their influence in the police to achieve their aims. The families that had control of the import and distribution monopolies did very well and obviously had to pay someone to maintain such privileges all this corruption was just easier to hide. No bastards with internets blogs to dig dirt or data bases to rapidly look for incriminating evidence, just cosy little news papers that printed what was of benefit to themselves.

    I think that why labour looks so ugly is that they are trying to act how others have done in the past just we have a real means of spreading independently all types of information that we come across. They are almost naked and it ain’t a pretty sight, National had better be watching and learn although not learn to hide but learn to not be corrupt and favour it’s buddies.

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  12. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    There is an interesting split occurring on the left. There are those who are disgusted with Labour and willing to say so. And there are those who are hugging Winston closer and closer and trying to turn him into a martyr and a hero.

    Christ that’s all we need, another party along the lines of the Progressives.

    There is only one left and one right. “Splits” are just the boundary points between the developmental stages of the individual. What we’re seeing is one group of left leaning centrists discovering they have reached the crossover point into socialism (the disgusted ones) and further out to the left, another group making the cross over into communism (the Winston hero makers). That’s what looks like “the split”. It works on the right too, but the flow is always out to the edges, as one extreme act from the other side results in an equal reaction from the other. The only thing to stop this centrifugal madness is to disengage from politics altogether and to instead develop a personal set of values and philosophy based on truth, personal experience, mistakes, reflection and growth. It’s a lot more difficult than barking at politicians or projecting your own problems onto another person so I don’t hold much hope of it catching on in a popular sense.

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  13. riki (234 comments) says:

    Are we that bad?

    I think the turn out against the EFB shows Kiwi’s are more politically sophisticated than Liarbour likes to know.

    Helen said, I want to see 5,000 protesting this bill. She obviously didn’t expect it, but 5,000 turned up.

    The thing is, we really know the track Liarbour is going down now, there true colours are revealed. They want to turn us into a Marxist totalitarian state. There’s no doubt about that.

    Besides, if we’re feeling the pinch of this recession by November, it’s definitely good bye comrades as they join Bob out the door.

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