The list is good for Cunliffe

September 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

Ben Thomas at NBR points something out about the Labour Party List:

Of those, five have worked directly as staffers for Prime Minister : Chris Hipkins (47), Grant Robertson (46) and Ms Ardern (20) are present or former advisors in the PM’s office; Brendon Burns (49) is the former head of the beehive’s communications unit established by Clark; Phil Twyford (26) worked in the Prime Minister’s electorate office in Mt Albert in 2005.

Now I don’t think working for a PM should rule you out of selection. In fact those candidates, if they become MPs, will be relatively experienced in parliamentary processes (although some of them somewhat lacking in life experience).

But the real significance, is what will happen if Labour loses. The leadership is likely to be a fight between and . And five former Clark staffers will all vote with Helen to support Cunliffe over Goff. In no way does Clark want Goff as her sucessor.

So David Cunliffe should be very happy with the list, and Phil Goff less so.

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16 Responses to “The list is good for Cunliffe”

  1. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    “In no way does Clark want Goff as her sucessor.”

    Er, why?

    [DPF: He never invited her to his BBQs]

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  2. WraithX (283 comments) says:

    I actually quite like David Cunliffe – though he is the only member of the labour party that I do like. He is usually quite respectful and polite in parliament, and while he sometimes gets his stats wrong, he doesn’t resort to the name calling that the rest of his party do. If only he had more economic nous – he might join National. If he ended up running labour, I think we would see some integrity return to the corrupt party it has become.

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  3. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    David Cunliffe would be excellent. I don’t really like him at all but a Labour Leader that lives in a $2 million Ponsonby house and has private health insurance would be super for National.

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  4. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    … and he said “I have Labour in my DNA”. So, yeah, a man with lines like that shows that Labour are on to winner with Cunliffe.

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  5. Lindsay Addie (1,593 comments) says:

    Cunliffe would be a godsend as leader of Labour. The Nats would be a near certainty for the 2011 election. Doesn’t matter who the new leader is it will not hide the complete lack of talent in the Labour ranks. A most lifeless bunch of failed socialists I have ever seen.

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  6. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Is it my imagination or have the Socialist trolls all gone into hibernation.

    Over the past week they have been deafening in their silence.

    I guess watching your Dearly Beloved Heavenly Leader self destruct must be a very unsettling experience

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  7. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    “Of those, five have worked directly as staffers for Prime Minister Helen Clark”

    On that basis All_Your_Base, Tane, Steve Pierson et al will all be in the top 10 in 2011.

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  8. David Farrar (1,902 comments) says:

    Gooner: Heh heh.

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  9. pdm (844 comments) says:

    Cunliffe will be `damaged goods’ by the time the vote for Clark’s replacement takes place.

    Has everyone forgotten the court case or court cases to come re the sacking of the HBDHB?

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  10. Inventory2 (10,432 comments) says:

    WraithX – one word will come back to haunt Cunners – Baygate

    He still has a date with the High Court in Napier, although he has been successful in delaying it until post-election.. Mind you, Craig Foss and Chris Tremain probably think the world of him. Their jobs as Hawkes Bay electorate MP’s (Tukituki and Napier respectively) are secure for many elections to come!

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  11. GJ (329 comments) says:

    Cunnliffe I understand is a Ministers son; hence better values were possibly installed. However he has also been very ambitious (nothing wrong with that) and therefore has tended to be a Clark pleaser to climb the ranks. That may be his downfall.

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  12. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is a male!

    Heir Apparent?

    Looks like the boy that always got bullied at school to me.

    There again he has been running the show for a while now.

    This is brilliant news for National.

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  13. NeillR (351 comments) says:

    Labour’s list gives the underlying impression that they’ve already given up on this election and are looking to blood some new MP’s in time for 2011. Will it work? It probably depends on how badly they suffer from the SFO/privileges committee findings.
    Key strikes me as the kind of person that could govern for a long time, which is why Labour has expended so much effort on trying to discredit him.

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  14. JC (973 comments) says:

    Machinations for succession by the leader are only any good if the election is close enough to retain credibility. Even if Labour finishes somewhat credibly but logical allies are lost then Clark loses because she’s alienated the Greens with Glenngate, lost Maori seats through formation of the Maori Party and scared off United Future. That leaves her with Jim and the potential of some rattling dags called Winston attached to her bottom. If NZ1st is gone then she’s left with her and Winston’s follies and a Green Party in no mood for games. From what I’ve seen of Norman there will be not much interest in easy compromise.

    I dunno, but it does seem that we are approaching some sort of watershed with MMP where the public have lost patience with it’s development and might be as interested in seeing the Greens and Maori Party tie up to produce a roughly similar grouping of native and Green issues that is relatively predictable and more easily controlled through the vote and polls to have around a 7-10% share of the vote and get with the programme.

    Other thoughts.. has anyone noticed that Clark at times sounds like Kiwi Keith.. a blaring and banal sound of a dead era?

    JC

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  15. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    David Cunliffe would be excellent. I don’t really like him at all but a Labour Leader that lives in a $2 million Ponsonby house and has private health insurance would be super for National.

    Or bad? Sounds like a move to the centre would be on the cards (or further to the right, whichever you prefer)

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  16. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,753 comments) says:

    If David Cunliffe became leader of Labour he would lose the 2011 election. Then what, retire from politics? Who would take over the leadership then, Claire Curran? Ha ha ha.

    The more interesting question is when is Hels going to retire from Parliament and trigger a by-election in her electorate? I’m guessing she’ll bludge off the public tit over the Christmas break and then quietly slip away from the public eye in February 2009, never to be heard from again.

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