Another migration record

October 23rd, 2008 at 7:40 am by David Farrar

Stats NZ have released their monthly statistics. They note:

  • 500 more PLT departures in September 2008 compared with September 2007
  • In the year ended September 2008, there were 82,300 PLT departures, up 7,600 (10 percent). (an all time record)
  • Net PLT migration was 4,400 in the September 2008 year, down from 8,300 in the September 2007 year. The latest figure is the lowest since the October 2001 year (1,700).
  • A net inflow of 40,800 non-New Zealand citizens and a net outflow of 36,400 New Zealand citizens were recorded in the year ended September 2008.
  • Compared with the September 2007 year there were 5,900 more PLT departures of New Zealand citizens and 1,700 more PLT departures of non-New Zealand citizens.
  • The net PLT outflow to Australia was 33,900 in the September 2008 year, compared with 26,200 in the September 2007 year. This is higher than previous peaks in the January 1989 year (33,700) and the December 1979 year (33,400).

The above is all from the commentary. Now let’s look at some data over time.

This shows that the number of permament and long-term departures is at an all time high. As a percentage of the population it is not yet at the peak but has climbed from 14 per 1,000 to almost 20 per 1,000.

That is quite high. Over a generation (30 years) that is 600 out of 1,000 people who would have left – and most won’t return.

If we look at just the last five years – since the current trend began, we see a few things:

  • PLT departures up from 55,000 to over 82.000 in five years – a 49% increase
  • PLT departures of NZ citizens up from 38,000 to almost 60,000 – a 57% increase
  • Net PLT departures of NZ citizens up from 10,000 to around 36,000 – a 254% increase

I don’t show the net PLT figures for all travellers as the rate of inbound migration of non citizens is decided by Government policy and can be set as high or low as the Government wants.

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16 Responses to “Another migration record”

  1. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Yep. As I have been saying the amount of Kiwis here in London has climbed dramatically over the past few years and the ones I have met ae talking about going to Oz. At the Toast NZ festival the other week, we had 7000 Kiwis there and at my stand most mentioned that they didn’t care for Labour and see themselves in Aussie.

    I remember in the 90′s how reluctant people were about becoming “Aussies” and now you can’t stop the Kiwis choosing our old rivals.

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  2. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Cullen noted a drop in tax revenues when trying to downplay his disgraceful deficit situation. I wonder how much migration of higher earners has impaced that?

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  3. Scott (1,724 comments) says:

    Surely this is the big news story — rather than what Lockwood Smith said about the merits of Asian workers and Pacific Island workers?

    We have had wonderful economic conditions for nine years and during that time plane loads of New Zealanders have left for Australia. When is the media going to hold the Labour government to account? Isn’t it a worry when our best and brightest go to Australia permanently?

    Wouldn’t it have been prudent for our government to consider adopting some of Australia’s policies — an ongoing regime of tax cuts by both parties when in government, is one that comes to mind. Surely that might have made sense?

    But no, our economy is in free fall, yet our media decides it’s time to move on. No one to hold to account. The real story is Lockwood Smith — yeah right!

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  4. wreck1080 (3,784 comments) says:

    And good riddance too. Those leaving are greedy thieves who don’t want to pay for their fair share. Anyway, they are being replaced by even more highly skilled immigrants.

    At least, thats what the undynamic duo Helen and Cullen will be saying.

    The Aussie/NZ flows are of interest since they show trends. We can of course have as many immigrants as we decide so immigraton numbers are a function of government set immigration numbers.

    The good genetics are fleeing and this will affect NZ for many decades. The children of those who flee will be tied to their new countries and less likely to return.

    I’d be gonesky already , the things stopping me are family – and the fact that Aussie is so scenically boring.

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  5. tknorriss (327 comments) says:

    What will the lefties do when there is no-one left to pay for their welfare state?

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  6. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “What will the lefties do when there is no-one left to pay for their welfare state?”

    Historically they have built walls or passed legislation to prevent people leaving. I’d guess that if Labour win another term, you’re going to find it harder to leave, and I’d say your chances of emigrating to Australia will soon be legislated away. If the Nats had any idea, they’d be warning NZers that this is most likely an intention of the Klark/ Labour bunch of socialist crooks.

    Such unpopular measures are the reason that Labour is not providing any specifics on policy. (and getting a free ride on this from the pro-Labour media of course)

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  7. Grant S (146 comments) says:

    RB, I’ve recently been listening to Mark Levin on your recommendation. He’s good.

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  8. Ross Miller (1,676 comments) says:

    Dover Samuels is joining those ranks after the election … just what does that say about his view of Labour’s legacy.

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  9. Chthoniid (2,029 comments) says:

    What will the lefties do when there is no-one left to pay for their welfare state?

    Borrow or use inflation as a hidden tax. I suspect however, they remain over-confident in their own ability and actually believe they can improve economic growth to fund the welfare state. I guess then it will just be a matter of when we get the IMF bailout, not if.

    I had hoped that the electorate would have come to their senses by now. I’m not sure I can wait another 3 years. Fortunately I’m renting, so leaving after Nov 8 won’t be too difficult.

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  10. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “RB, I’ve recently been listening to Mark Levin on your recommendation. He’s good”

    Good on you Grant and thanks- I don’t feel like I’ve received any intellectual stimulation in a day if I can’t hear Mr. Levin.

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  11. longbow (130 comments) says:

    last time PLT peaked (Feb 2001?) was partly because OZ closing doors to automatic residency for kiwis

    and this time, the PLT is huge consider that there is no external factors.

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  12. Gooner (995 comments) says:

    Bollard doesn’t need to raise the OCR to quash house price inflation. These figures will do it for him quite nicely.

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  13. PhilBest (5,117 comments) says:

    # tknorriss (81) Vote: Add rating3 Subtract rating 0 Says:
    October 23rd, 2008 at 8:49 am

    “What will the lefties do when there is no-one left to pay for their welfare state?”

    Read “Atlas Shrugged” for some ideas……

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  14. kisekiman (224 comments) says:

    The obvious target would be the export sector with Agriculture in particular. With no domestic market to speak of the Govt could slap an export tax on Dairy products and farmers could do fuck all except give up farming which is what the commies really want so they can then collectivize farms and we can then all live in a self sufficient green utopian paradise bartering with each other. That is the radical green endgame and it is not an impossible one. Phil has wet dreams about this kind of scenario becoming a reality.

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  15. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,819 comments) says:

    What a lasting legacy for Hels as she is booted out of office on 8 November.

    Good riddance to the bad rubbish which is Hels I say.

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  16. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,819 comments) says:

    tknorriss says at 8:49 am:

    What will the lefties do when there is no-one left to pay for their welfare state?

    Are you familiar with a country called Somalia?

    “Who run Bartertown?”

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