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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502674</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Redbaiter: Very funny.&quot;

Thank you Mr. Farrar. Actually, I think Sonic did have a bit of a fling with private enterprise once, when he had the brilliant idea of starting a lemming farm. Soon went broke tho because the stock kept offing themselves. Michael Cullen helped him with the business plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Redbaiter: Very funny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. Farrar. Actually, I think Sonic did have a bit of a fling with private enterprise once, when he had the brilliant idea of starting a lemming farm. Soon went broke tho because the stock kept offing themselves. Michael Cullen helped him with the business plan.</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502673</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan is a terrific job of being a sad case loser.  Learning from Hels me thinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan is a terrific job of being a sad case loser.  Learning from Hels me thinks.</p>
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		<title>By: dave strings</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502665</link>
		<dc:creator>dave strings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glutaemus Maximus 

gud on yer gurl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glutaemus Maximus </p>
<p>gud on yer gurl</p>
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		<title>By: NeillR</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502657</link>
		<dc:creator>NeillR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day 16: Labour shoots themselves in the foot. Nose becomes irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 16: Labour shoots themselves in the foot. Nose becomes irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Gooner</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502642</link>
		<dc:creator>Gooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic, you’re totally wrong.

H-Fee involved two payments.  The first never went through Elders.  Therefore Key couldn’t have been involved even if he had wanted to.

However the kingpins decided to put the second payment through Elders.  It went through *after* Key had left.  Did you get that?  Key wasn’t there when the fraud was committed.  So you are factually wrong to the tune of 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic, you’re totally wrong.</p>
<p>H-Fee involved two payments.  The first never went through Elders.  Therefore Key couldn’t have been involved even if he had wanted to.</p>
<p>However the kingpins decided to put the second payment through Elders.  It went through *after* Key had left.  Did you get that?  Key wasn’t there when the fraud was committed.  So you are factually wrong to the tune of 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Sushi Goblin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502566</link>
		<dc:creator>Sushi Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan has such a track record at picking winners.

http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2007/07/akl-again.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan has such a track record at picking winners.</p>
<p><a href="http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2007/07/akl-again.html" rel="nofollow">http://jtc.blogs.com/just_left/2007/07/akl-again.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502537</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Key told the Herald he left the company in 1987, the allegation is that he did not in fact leave until June 1998 (in other words a he was there during the fraud)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sonic:  I worked at a company while, as it turned out, one of my co-workers was stealing thousands of dollars from the company and committing welfare fraud.  Charges were brought well after I left, and fifteen years later I don&#039;t have a fucking clue whether the offenses were committed entirely or only partially during my tenure.  If you even implied I had anything to do with his offending -- or that my less than perfect recall of events fifteen years ago -- means I was a party to his fraud, you&#039;d be getting a curt letter from Sue, Grabbitt and Runne in short order.

Meanwhile, I think people are rather more concerned about the shitstorm going down today than who John Key had lunch with twenty years ago.  Why doesn&#039;t Labour want to spend, effectively, the last week of the campaign talking about their achievements and their agenda for the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Key told the Herald he left the company in 1987, the allegation is that he did not in fact leave until June 1998 (in other words a he was there during the fraud)</p></blockquote>
<p>Sonic:  I worked at a company while, as it turned out, one of my co-workers was stealing thousands of dollars from the company and committing welfare fraud.  Charges were brought well after I left, and fifteen years later I don&#8217;t have a fucking clue whether the offenses were committed entirely or only partially during my tenure.  If you even implied I had anything to do with his offending &#8212; or that my less than perfect recall of events fifteen years ago &#8212; means I was a party to his fraud, you&#8217;d be getting a curt letter from Sue, Grabbitt and Runne in short order.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I think people are rather more concerned about the shitstorm going down today than who John Key had lunch with twenty years ago.  Why doesn&#8217;t Labour want to spend, effectively, the last week of the campaign talking about their achievements and their agenda for the future?</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502532</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would you blog a daily contest just to declare the party you are a candidate for the winner (or mixed) every day?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because Jordan Carter is retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why would you blog a daily contest just to declare the party you are a candidate for the winner (or mixed) every day?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because Jordan Carter is retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Addie</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502495</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Addie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone asked Jordan who won the campaign battle today?

Sure wasn&#039;t Helen or her Poodle!

:lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone asked Jordan who won the campaign battle today?</p>
<p>Sure wasn&#8217;t Helen or her Poodle!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: clintheine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502492</link>
		<dc:creator>clintheine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, Jordan is refusing to blog about his Hunua campaign as well. If we did a report card on his campaign it would read like this:

Day One - Helped hand leaflets in Auckland Central for Auntie Judith
Day Two - Put up election hoardings in Auckland Central
Day Three - Cry about internal polling that has Judith losing to Nationals Nicki Kaye in Auckland Central
Day Four - Deliberately walked around the edge of Hunua boundary to avoid being caught electioneering in his own electorate.

That boy doesn&#039;t have a clue. I suspect he has been told by HQ to give up his election and get on board saving Judith from political extinction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, Jordan is refusing to blog about his Hunua campaign as well. If we did a report card on his campaign it would read like this:</p>
<p>Day One &#8211; Helped hand leaflets in Auckland Central for Auntie Judith<br />
Day Two &#8211; Put up election hoardings in Auckland Central<br />
Day Three &#8211; Cry about internal polling that has Judith losing to Nationals Nicki Kaye in Auckland Central<br />
Day Four &#8211; Deliberately walked around the edge of Hunua boundary to avoid being caught electioneering in his own electorate.</p>
<p>That boy doesn&#8217;t have a clue. I suspect he has been told by HQ to give up his election and get on board saving Judith from political extinction!</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502480</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redbaiter: Very funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redbaiter: Very funny.</p>
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		<title>By: double d</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502466</link>
		<dc:creator>double d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nefarious - that was funny man!
for gods sake - the labradors ARE desperate if that is all they have. Neutron bomb - what a joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nefarious &#8211; that was funny man!<br />
for gods sake &#8211; the labradors ARE desperate if that is all they have. Neutron bomb &#8211; what a joke</p>
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		<title>By: Dyannt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502462</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyannt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SlightlyRightly wrote: I mean the man was, what, 25 years old at the time.

Now SR, I would suggest you get your facts straight. It is mentioned in other parts of the media Key was actually 26 at the time. You are obviously trying to mislead us or you are outright lying.
I suggest you come up with a good reason for the action you have taken and make a note of your amended story, because, who knows you may need to remember the details and explain yourself to the national media in 2028.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SlightlyRightly wrote: I mean the man was, what, 25 years old at the time.</p>
<p>Now SR, I would suggest you get your facts straight. It is mentioned in other parts of the media Key was actually 26 at the time. You are obviously trying to mislead us or you are outright lying.<br />
I suggest you come up with a good reason for the action you have taken and make a note of your amended story, because, who knows you may need to remember the details and explain yourself to the national media in 2028.</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502430</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PaulL you are wrong because our faithless liitle drone Sonic says so!

Helen Clark has a lot to answer for by approving 500+ pipsqueeks to harass the media and us.

Do I go on the Commie blogs? No, because I do not care about their deluded view of life!

Can I be bothered trying to convince hordes of taxpayer funded spindoctors that I have the right view? No because they are paid to  lie, obfusicate, dent, denigrate, and prejure themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulL you are wrong because our faithless liitle drone Sonic says so!</p>
<p>Helen Clark has a lot to answer for by approving 500+ pipsqueeks to harass the media and us.</p>
<p>Do I go on the Commie blogs? No, because I do not care about their deluded view of life!</p>
<p>Can I be bothered trying to convince hordes of taxpayer funded spindoctors that I have the right view? No because they are paid to  lie, obfusicate, dent, denigrate, and prejure themselves</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502428</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d guess that your CV is not to be trusted then?&quot;

You&#039;d have no such memory problems with your CV would you Sonic? 

Born 1928 in miserable colliery town in UK

1933- Went to skool and learned to hate kapitalism

1950- left skool and went to university on bursary provided by kapitalist

1970- left university with degree in hating kapitalism

1980- After short period on dole began work for the dole scheme as gummint bureaucrat

1981- Realised that the socialists had fucked the UK and emigrated to New Zealand

1995- After short period on dole began work for the dole scheme as gummint bureaucrat. Also worked voluntarily for the Labour party implementing same policies in NZ that had fucked the UK.

2000- Retired from work for the dole scheme

Plans for 2009- Realize that the socialists have fucked NZ and emigrate to Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d guess that your CV is not to be trusted then?&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have no such memory problems with your CV would you Sonic? </p>
<p>Born 1928 in miserable colliery town in UK</p>
<p>1933- Went to skool and learned to hate kapitalism</p>
<p>1950- left skool and went to university on bursary provided by kapitalist</p>
<p>1970- left university with degree in hating kapitalism</p>
<p>1980- After short period on dole began work for the dole scheme as gummint bureaucrat</p>
<p>1981- Realised that the socialists had fucked the UK and emigrated to New Zealand</p>
<p>1995- After short period on dole began work for the dole scheme as gummint bureaucrat. Also worked voluntarily for the Labour party implementing same policies in NZ that had fucked the UK.</p>
<p>2000- Retired from work for the dole scheme</p>
<p>Plans for 2009- Realize that the socialists have fucked NZ and emigrate to Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502424</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic, am I accountable to you in any way whatsoever?

Do I care what you think or do at all?

As a taxpayer, I believe that you are my employee.

Just do as you are told, and fuck off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic, am I accountable to you in any way whatsoever?</p>
<p>Do I care what you think or do at all?</p>
<p>As a taxpayer, I believe that you are my employee.</p>
<p>Just do as you are told, and fuck off!</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502423</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m missing the point of the Herald story at all - other than to prove Chris Trotter&#039;s mistake in suggesting the media are supporting National.  

So far as I can see the story is:
 - John Key asserted he left before the payment in question
 - He did leave before the second payment
 - He didn&#039;t know about the first payment, and therefore didn&#039;t know he hadn&#039;t left before it
 - He didn&#039;t know about it because someone in Australia processed it
 - So there is no question that he was involved - basically the story is that he didn&#039;t comment on something because he didn&#039;t know about it.

What a waste of everyone&#039;s time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m missing the point of the Herald story at all &#8211; other than to prove Chris Trotter&#8217;s mistake in suggesting the media are supporting National.  </p>
<p>So far as I can see the story is:<br />
 &#8211; John Key asserted he left before the payment in question<br />
 &#8211; He did leave before the second payment<br />
 &#8211; He didn&#8217;t know about the first payment, and therefore didn&#8217;t know he hadn&#8217;t left before it<br />
 &#8211; He didn&#8217;t know about it because someone in Australia processed it<br />
 &#8211; So there is no question that he was involved &#8211; basically the story is that he didn&#8217;t comment on something because he didn&#8217;t know about it.</p>
<p>What a waste of everyone&#8217;s time.</p>
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		<title>By: Whafe</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502422</link>
		<dc:creator>Whafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart bleeds copious amounts of puss for these lefties....... 

it seems people in the land of the long white cloud only make voting choices on whats in it for themselves, not the greater good of the whole shooting box....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart bleeds copious amounts of puss for these lefties&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>it seems people in the land of the long white cloud only make voting choices on whats in it for themselves, not the greater good of the whole shooting box&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NeillR</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502416</link>
		<dc:creator>NeillR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan&#039;s been a spinner ever since the days of usenet. I see he hasn&#039;t changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan&#8217;s been a spinner ever since the days of usenet. I see he hasn&#8217;t changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/jordans_election_scorecard.html#comment-502414</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The former Serious Fraud Office (SFO) director, Charles Sturt, said on August 25, 2007, that Mr Key was not involved in the H-Fee scam.

The SFO interviewed Mr Key about it, and Mr Sturt said he was one of many innocent people in a massive fact-gathering exercise.

&quot;It should not need to be said that John Key was completely innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever,&quot; Mr Sturt said.

&quot;For any politician to hint or suggest otherwise would be absolute rubbish and pure mischief-making.&quot;

- NZPA&quot;

So Sonic, and the real story is mischief making by a desperate Labour/Winston First AXIS.

Awesome.

The Internal polling has your sphincter twitching? Ah Bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The former Serious Fraud Office (SFO) director, Charles Sturt, said on August 25, 2007, that Mr Key was not involved in the H-Fee scam.</p>
<p>The SFO interviewed Mr Key about it, and Mr Sturt said he was one of many innocent people in a massive fact-gathering exercise.</p>
<p>&#8220;It should not need to be said that John Key was completely innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever,&#8221; Mr Sturt said.</p>
<p>&#8220;For any politician to hint or suggest otherwise would be absolute rubbish and pure mischief-making.&#8221;</p>
<p>- NZPA&#8221;</p>
<p>So Sonic, and the real story is mischief making by a desperate Labour/Winston First AXIS.</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
<p>The Internal polling has your sphincter twitching? Ah Bless!</p>
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