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		<title>By: TimF</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-504364</link>
		<dc:creator>TimF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen Clark forgot to advise that the first H Fee was transacted in january 1988 between Elders and BNZ ( Sydney Branch ).
BNZ was owned by the Labour Government of the time which she was a senior minister in. She was technically involved in the transaction and John Key was nowhere near the transaction.

Why wasn&#039;t that reported in the NZ Herald article and others since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen Clark forgot to advise that the first H Fee was transacted in january 1988 between Elders and BNZ ( Sydney Branch ).<br />
BNZ was owned by the Labour Government of the time which she was a senior minister in. She was technically involved in the transaction and John Key was nowhere near the transaction.</p>
<p>Why wasn&#8217;t that reported in the NZ Herald article and others since.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502709</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the TWO really really big stories about Crazy break then the Socialists &#039;neutron bomb&quot; will be but a storm in a very small teacup.

MFAT are really really pissed off about the way Simon M has been treated by Liugi and Crazy and are out for revenge big time. 

When a Minister or a PM trash a Department Head that is popular with the troops they risk a backlash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the TWO really really big stories about Crazy break then the Socialists &#8216;neutron bomb&#8221; will be but a storm in a very small teacup.</p>
<p>MFAT are really really pissed off about the way Simon M has been treated by Liugi and Crazy and are out for revenge big time. </p>
<p>When a Minister or a PM trash a Department Head that is popular with the troops they risk a backlash.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502680</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruno said:
If I was helen clark I’d send mike williams to one of those drug rehab clinics for detox.

Going by his picture last night he also needs a botox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruno said:<br />
If I was helen clark I’d send mike williams to one of those drug rehab clinics for detox.</p>
<p>Going by his picture last night he also needs a botox!</p>
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		<title>By: dave strings</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502653</link>
		<dc:creator>dave strings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!  What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!

&quot;When the end of the end arrives there is no harm throwing excrement; if some of it sticks that&#039;s good, if it bounces back, well - you were neck deep in it anyway!&quot;
                                                            Anthony, Lord Hulme commenting on the Profumo Affair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!  What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive!</p>
<p>&#8220;When the end of the end arrives there is no harm throwing excrement; if some of it sticks that&#8217;s good, if it bounces back, well &#8211; you were neck deep in it anyway!&#8221;<br />
                                                            Anthony, Lord Hulme commenting on the Profumo Affair</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Nobody NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502640</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Nobody NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Brin are you surprised to hear that Helen has used a tax payer research unit for dirt digging missions?  Personally I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to hear Helen unleashed the SIS to fuel her last gasp at retaining power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Brin are you surprised to hear that Helen has used a tax payer research unit for dirt digging missions?  Personally I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to hear Helen unleashed the SIS to fuel her last gasp at retaining power.</p>
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		<title>By: Brin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502612</link>
		<dc:creator>Brin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this in the Herald this morning:

&quot;Labour president Mike Williams spent several days last week reading court documents in Melbourne, backed up by Wellington-based members of the party research unit.&quot;

That would be the tax-payer funded Labour research unit?  And would the costs of flying them to Melbourne and their accommodation count as an election expense?

I&#039;d also be genuinely interested if someone more knowledgeable than me could comment on whether it is appropriate for someone on the Boards that Mike Williams is on to be travelling overseas on dirt-digging missions targeting leading NZ politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this in the Herald this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;Labour president Mike Williams spent several days last week reading court documents in Melbourne, backed up by Wellington-based members of the party research unit.&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be the tax-payer funded Labour research unit?  And would the costs of flying them to Melbourne and their accommodation count as an election expense?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be genuinely interested if someone more knowledgeable than me could comment on whether it is appropriate for someone on the Boards that Mike Williams is on to be travelling overseas on dirt-digging missions targeting leading NZ politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: jackp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502611</link>
		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does John Armstrong do for the Herald.  Did he get that job by default?  His editorial still tries to trash John Key because he can&#039;t remember what happened 20 years ago.    He truly is the &quot;Shallow Man&quot; during this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does John Armstrong do for the Herald.  Did he get that job by default?  His editorial still tries to trash John Key because he can&#8217;t remember what happened 20 years ago.    He truly is the &#8220;Shallow Man&#8221; during this election.</p>
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		<title>By: DamnedAngry</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502610</link>
		<dc:creator>DamnedAngry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit the bed early NPOG? Or should that be PONG???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit the bed early NPOG? Or should that be PONG???</p>
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		<title>By: natural party of govt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502600</link>
		<dc:creator>natural party of govt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fascinating...

I have just heard from someone that apparantly it was someone usually seen associated with Mr English who leaked this to Labour a couple of years ago.

Politics......you always have to watch your own side more closely than those on the other bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating&#8230;</p>
<p>I have just heard from someone that apparantly it was someone usually seen associated with Mr English who leaked this to Labour a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>Politics&#8230;&#8230;you always have to watch your own side more closely than those on the other bench.</p>
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		<title>By: natural party of govt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502599</link>
		<dc:creator>natural party of govt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John here says regarding the 2nd H-fee transaction &quot; But the the interesting thing, Key said at the time, was that if he had still been working at Elders, it would likely have been him, not Richards, with whom Jarrett would have met that day.&quot; [source: NZ Herald]

While John here has totally forgotten that he was still working for Elders when the first H-fee transaction took place.


Hmmmm....... shades of Geoffrey Palmer, Michael Moore leadership challenge here.

Has Bill English&#039;s time finally come?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John here says regarding the 2nd H-fee transaction &#8221; But the the interesting thing, Key said at the time, was that if he had still been working at Elders, it would likely have been him, not Richards, with whom Jarrett would have met that day.&#8221; [source: NZ Herald]</p>
<p>While John here has totally forgotten that he was still working for Elders when the first H-fee transaction took place.</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;. shades of Geoffrey Palmer, Michael Moore leadership challenge here.</p>
<p>Has Bill English&#8217;s time finally come?</p>
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		<title>By: natural party of govt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502598</link>
		<dc:creator>natural party of govt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John here wants New Zealanders to be protected from the greed and excesses of wall street bankers.
While John here can&#039;t quite remember the fact that he left Elders 6 months AFTER H-fee was paid not 6 months BEFORE.

Or that he was having lunch with his successor when said successor was called away to discuss the 2nd payment.

The Natural Party of Government....still able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John here wants New Zealanders to be protected from the greed and excesses of wall street bankers.<br />
While John here can&#8217;t quite remember the fact that he left Elders 6 months AFTER H-fee was paid not 6 months BEFORE.</p>
<p>Or that he was having lunch with his successor when said successor was called away to discuss the 2nd payment.</p>
<p>The Natural Party of Government&#8230;.still able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.</p>
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		<title>By: DamnedAngry</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502596</link>
		<dc:creator>DamnedAngry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m waiting for Helen to throw out a rumour that one of the two John&#039;s has been have secret talks with the Exclusive Bretheren! 

Wouldn&#039;t be surprized if they started inventing stuff as there are enuff dumb dipshits out there that would believe anything Liarbor say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m waiting for Helen to throw out a rumour that one of the two John&#8217;s has been have secret talks with the Exclusive Bretheren! </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t be surprized if they started inventing stuff as there are enuff dumb dipshits out there that would believe anything Liarbor say.</p>
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		<title>By: DamnedAngry</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502595</link>
		<dc:creator>DamnedAngry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone ever put the Peter Davis &#039;male-on-male&#039; SNOG, after the win at the last election, up on YouTube? If I remember correctly it was pretty darned passionate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone ever put the Peter Davis &#8216;male-on-male&#8217; SNOG, after the win at the last election, up on YouTube? If I remember correctly it was pretty darned passionate!</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502594</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Key is a top bloke, if a little limp compared to Don Brash.

Hels is a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Key is a top bloke, if a little limp compared to Don Brash.</p>
<p>Hels is a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: natural party of govt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502592</link>
		<dc:creator>natural party of govt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Helen Clark claims she can’t remember when she was first briefed on Owen Glenn’s wishes to be made Consul - a relatively recent event, and a pretty significant issue.&quot;

My guess is Helen Clark is being economical with the truth in regards to a providing an unpaid meaningless vanity diplomatic post as a quid pro quo for a donation.  Not necessarily in the finest westminister tradition but firmly in the tradition of cash for peerages that we know so well from Britain.

Mr Key is being economical with the truth in regards to New Zealand&#039;s largest financial fraud case and it appears that he has committed perjury - and possibly perjury to protect a former colleague.

That is a completely different order of magnitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Helen Clark claims she can’t remember when she was first briefed on Owen Glenn’s wishes to be made Consul &#8211; a relatively recent event, and a pretty significant issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>My guess is Helen Clark is being economical with the truth in regards to a providing an unpaid meaningless vanity diplomatic post as a quid pro quo for a donation.  Not necessarily in the finest westminister tradition but firmly in the tradition of cash for peerages that we know so well from Britain.</p>
<p>Mr Key is being economical with the truth in regards to New Zealand&#8217;s largest financial fraud case and it appears that he has committed perjury &#8211; and possibly perjury to protect a former colleague.</p>
<p>That is a completely different order of magnitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502588</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....stroyed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.stroyed</p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502587</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labours latest and lamest attempt to smear John Key has been de.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labours latest and lamest attempt to smear John Key has been de&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Helensphotogenicimposter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502585</link>
		<dc:creator>Helensphotogenicimposter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM you really are a chocolate loving shit stirrer. The challenge will be breaking the news without looking desperate, vindictive and homophobic, should this be the neutronski bomb in question. Some evidence might be useful. The statement of a jealous lover perhapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM you really are a chocolate loving shit stirrer. The challenge will be breaking the news without looking desperate, vindictive and homophobic, should this be the neutronski bomb in question. Some evidence might be useful. The statement of a jealous lover perhapse.</p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502582</link>
		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another swing and a miss for Labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another swing and a miss for Labour.</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/10/memories.html#comment-502581</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why LAX kept popping up.

The other story was in the Valley alledgedly, however it is quite possible that you are also right!

I was told that it was an urban myth, however it would appear to keep coming back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why LAX kept popping up.</p>
<p>The other story was in the Valley alledgedly, however it is quite possible that you are also right!</p>
<p>I was told that it was an urban myth, however it would appear to keep coming back!</p>
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