Who paid for the lawyer and court fees?

October 31st, 2008 at 10:54 am by David Farrar

Duncan Garner blogs:

The fiasco hasn’t blown up. Well it has – but it’s a minor smoke bomb and it’s exploded in Labour’s face.

Labour had hoped that Key signed off on the $66m Elders – Equiticorp foreign exchange scam in 1988. It would ha ve been gold wouldn’t it?

The signature looks the same – but it’s not Key.

Labour’s President spent a few days in Melbourne last week pouring over the 24 kilograms of papers. But he couldn’t access to the court documents easily.

He had to use the Australian Labour Party’s top lawyer to get a court order – through a judge – to get to the documents.

So who paid for the top lawyer and who paid the court filing fees? Was it the Labour Party?

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26 Responses to “Who paid for the lawyer and court fees?”

  1. Lee (627 comments) says:

    William’s said that the government had paid for his trip. Helen Clark has said that he paid for it himself.

    One of them is lying.

    “Its about trust”.

    Yes, it is.

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  2. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    It doesn’t matter “who” paid for it. It was part of the labour party campaign and is therefore an election expense.

    The same a Mike Williams airfare. Regardless of which of them is lying (Mike, because its his job to look like a dick and take the bullet when he and Helen don’t read from the same script) the expense was part of the cmapaign and must come off their allowence.

    Keep doing stuff like this lefties, its comedy gold. Damn should have bought shares in popcorn this week.

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  3. Mr Nobody NZ (396 comments) says:

    From the Herald: “A trip to Melbourne by Labour Party president Mike Williams to try and link National leader John Key to historic fraudulent foreign exchange deals was paid for by the party, Prime Minister Helen Clark admitted today.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&objectid=10540325

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  4. Lindsay Addie (1,107 comments) says:

    In the who paid for what stakes Clark has now changed her tune, Labour reimbursed the bomb expert for the airfare:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz-election-2008/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501799&objectid=10540325

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  5. alex Masterley (1,439 comments) says:

    Austrailian Lawyers are not cheap, even at mates rates.
    And then there are the court fees on top of that. The labor party’s election return just got a whole lot more interesting.

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  6. homepaddock (429 comments) says:

    No wonder they’ve got so little to spend on campaigning, they’re spending it all digging deeper holes for themselves.

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  7. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    # homepaddock (132) Vote: Add rating1 Subtract rating 0 Says:
    October 31st, 2008 at 11:09 am

    “No wonder they’ve got so little to spend on campaigning, they’re spending it all digging deeper holes for themselves…..”

    You can bet your boots that the only reason they’ve got any money at all to splash around now, is 1) corrupt fundraising methods like $200 GRAND of anonymous crispies in the hat at a “fundraising evening”, probably from Triad bosses and the like who have received favours like NZ Citizenship; and 2) Raiding taxpayer funds in various State coffers.

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  8. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    They show themselves up, too, in the tired old lefty assumption that anyone who has money has to have operated dishonestly. News for them: a wealthy person who came by that wealth honestly, and started from scratch; is possibly the best leadership material a nation could wish for.

    And by the way, there is no role in society requiring MORE DISHONESTY than having been a career politician on the Left end of the spectrum.

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  9. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    “And by the way, there is no role in society requiring MORE DISHONESTY than having been a career politician on the Left end of the spectrum.”

    An interesting assertion – want to provide any explaination/background of this???

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  10. Fisiani (860 comments) says:

    PW Denial is not the same as refuting.

    Refuting would be a statement fronm Grant Robertson apologising for his previous stand and a promise to accept scientific opinion. You have not offered any such apology from your candidate.
    Grant Robertson is repeatedly on record as stating that the sensible and scientific stand of declining blood donation from active homosexuals ( defined as engaging in anal intercourse in the previous 5 years) as agreed by the Aids Foundation and Blood transfusion service is simply discriminatory and anti-gay.
    No one who is this thick and clinically dangerous to the entire population should be anywhere near the handles of power.

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  11. WraithX (295 comments) says:

    I have a question: will there be any more political polls before the election or is there some kind of cut-off date? It is only 1 week away and it could certainly have an impact on how some people vote.

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  12. Fisiani (860 comments) says:

    Oops sorry wrong thread

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  13. Jack5 (4,231 comments) says:

    It’s now looking obvious where the email thefts and dirty tricks that scuppered Don Brash came from. Also the ratbags who trawled through John Key’s rubbish. There are Labour fingerprints everywhere.

    The Labour Party, which once had leaders of integrity like Fraser, Nash, Rowling, and Kirk has sunk to a new low for New Zealand politics. Dishonest, stealing, lying, creepy are some of the adjectives which come to mind for the current mob. More like Stalinists in the 1930s than social democrats like Fraser and Co. No wonder this mob don’t want more prisons built. They want home detention as their “just in case” standby.

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  14. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    Using the Australian Labour Party’s top lawyer? Any chance of a “Lord Ashcroft” media frenzy over that? Didn’t think so…move along, nothing to see etc etc.

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  15. dime (8,789 comments) says:

    haha this is awesome.

    question though – does anyone care outside of kiwiblog?

    reckon this is making an impact?

    fingers crossed

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  16. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    How can someone ( mike williams ) walk off the street, from a foreign country and get their hands on shit loads of documents?. If someone like myself tryed this little trick I would be behind bars, how do these bastards get away with it?

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  17. democracymum (660 comments) says:

    I hope the Greens are busy calculating Mike Williams carbon emissions from
    crossing the Tasman and photocopying a massive 26 kilos of paper for Helen’s
    dirt digging mission.

    What say you Jeannette?
    Perhaps you could jump out at Helen today while she is on the campaign trail?
    Be careful though she is not the sure footed beast she once was.
    You wouldn’t want to knock her over.

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  18. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    Dime, I just said this on the tail end of the earlier thread:

    Not only would the MSM be condemning the Nats for dirty behaviour if they were digging dirt on Helen’s pre-parliamentary background, the MSM would be condemning, and has in the past condemned, ANYONE who dares to dig dirt on Helen and her colleagues.

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  19. democracymum (660 comments) says:

    Remember Don Brash’s stolen emails and pictures of JK’s rubbish having been gone through
    earlier this year?

    Wonder where Mike Williams was while those dirt digging episodes were going on?

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  20. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    Fisiani, I can’t work out what thread you meant to say that on, but you are absolutely right, we need to have a good go at that sort of stuff on a “General Debate” some time. Theodore Dalrymple makes some very hard-hitting statements about political correctness and liberal lefty “denial”. He says that in its purest form, from totalitarian regimes, the control over information is not so much intended to deceive as to HUMILIATE, therefore the LESS it corresponds with reality, the better; because people who are forced to assent to and repeat and live according to obvious lies, lose their own sense of probity, and their own souls; they become “automata inconvenienced by a soul”.

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  21. Lee (627 comments) says:

    The Press has a good editorial about the issue. As well as tearing Labour a new one it effectively counters the “why elect a money trader” smear that some on the left have raised.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/vote08/4745336a28480.html

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  22. Fisiani (860 comments) says:

    Philbest I meant to put it in the Stephen Franks has a crush on Linley Boniface thread. There is a wanker there called paul Williams who wants to silence me by using ad hominem comments. Silly sod. I am the immoveable object.
    People in Wellington Central think Grant Robertson is a genial Mr Blobby who always smiles and spins.
    They do not appreciate, for he has never ventured in public to declare himself, as he does with supporters, as being a “militant gay activist”. He is truly dangerous.

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  23. Patrick Starr (3,675 comments) says:

    Helen Clark is so far on her sixth public lie this week!

    http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/audrey-young/2008/10/31/herald-stands-story-job-search-allowance/?c_id=1501219

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  24. NX (597 comments) says:

    The question I’d like answered is:

    Did the upper echelons of Aussie Labor know about this?

    If so, Kevin Rudd should keep his nose out of our business!

    Also, it’s odd that Williams left his fact finding mission until the last couple of weeks of the election campaign.

    If he has indeed brought back with him 24kgs of paper work, then that’s a lot to read in the next few days.

    This is not what I’ve come to expect from a party renowned for it’s political spin machine. Perhaps this is a sign the wheels are coming off.

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  25. adc (520 comments) says:

    what was he pouring over the 24kg of papers? Petrol?

    it’s poring, not pouring..

    ah the illiteracy of journos never ceases to amaze me

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  26. cubit (356 comments) says:

    The clumsy attempt included an allegation that John Key’s signature was on key documents – Authenticity of the signature -Proven untrue – Time to move on
    The signature on the painting was Helen Clarks – However the painting was not by her – Authenticity of the signature -Proven True – Not yet time to move on.

    Who can you trust?

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