A National-led Cabinet

November 6th, 2008 at 10:33 am by David Farrar

Audrey Young looks at possible roles in a Government:

United Future leader would be the prime contender for if National formed the Government after Saturday’s election, the Herald understands.

I’ve heard of this possibility for some months. It depends I suspect on how well United Future goes. If only Peter is returned, then Speaker would make a lot of sense. If he gets one or more MPs coming back with him, a Ministerial role makes more sense. For my 2c I think Peter could be a very good Speaker, and very impartial. But he has also proven himself as a competent Minister.

Act leader could be put in charge of prisons – as well as Inland Revenue.

Hell that is a good idea. Rodney could well sort out Corrections and I love the idea of him being in charge of IRD! It would also allow ACT input into tax policy which I fully support.

And new National MPs and could leap-frog incumbent members straight into the Cabinet.

The day they announced Steven’s list ranking, I concluded he would go straight into Cabinet. I’ve also regarded Hekia as the only other new entrant who could credibly go straight in. Not as certain as Steven but definitely a possibility.

If, however, National or Labour needed a support agreement with the Maori Party, co-leader would be likely to get Maori Affairs and Associate Education.

The Maori Party co-leader, , would be likely to get a portfolio within the Ministry of Social Development, and Associate Health.

Tariana in welfare would be great. And Sharples in Maori Affairs could lead a devolution of government spending in key areas to Maori providers rather than the state.

21 Responses to “A National-led Cabinet”

  1. Hagues (711 comments) says:

    “Act leader Rodney Hide could be put in charge of prisons – as well as Inland Revenue.”

    Great… where do I sign up?

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  2. Monty (941 comments) says:

    I would think Lockwood Smith would make a good speaker – and usually a job for someone about to exit parliament. Prissy peter should (if he is needed) have a fairly non-descript ministerial role – give him his baubles and tell him to go away. I would like to see Stephen Franks in the mix – preferably in a law related portfolio – and in charge of electoral reform.

    And who would be left under Labour?? How many resignations will we see in the first 12 months of their very long term in opposition?? Will Judith make it back???

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  3. PhilBest (4,967 comments) says:

    That is one heartening assessment by Audrey and DPF. Thank you. One of the best things that could happen is for the Maori Party to oversee substantial welfare reform akin to what took place in the USA in the Bill Clinton years.

    But I fear for the long term prospects of a basically decent government taking the reins at this particular time in the world economy. And just when we thought it couldn’t get worse, a bunch of trade-union-appeasing, market protectionists, screw-the-free-market nutjobs sweep every level of the government of the USA. I actually find myself wishing the NZ economic outlook for the next 3 years onto a continued government under Helen Clark and Michael Cullen…………just so’s they and their media lap-dogs can’t shift the blame for anything and everything onto the unlucky John Key’s 3 year, 1-term government, which is what is inevitably going to happen otherwise.

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  4. Vinick (234 comments) says:

    Interesting choices here – particularly putting Hide in charge of Corrections, and promoting Parata above Henare and te Heuheu.

    But why no Heather Roy? Even as a Minister outside Cabinet? With ACT likely to get four or five seats, wouldn’t that entitle them to more than just one Cabinet position? Heather has been very impressive in Wellington Central during this campaign, and in her last six years in Parliament.

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  5. wreck1080 (5,014 comments) says:

    No we don’t want an impartial speaker. We want a totally national biased speaker, after having had a labour biased speaker.

    That wilson witch was terrible, thank god shes slinking back to university where she belongs.

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  6. s.russell (2,074 comments) says:

    No, wreck1080. The disgraceful conduct by Labour, of which a biased speaker is a part, is a big reason why so many have switched to National. For National to choose a biased Speaker would not only be wrong on ethical/moral grounds, but would be politically stupid. I for one am voting National because I want to see a renewal of truthfulness and ethics, not to replace one set of crooks with another.

    Peter Dunne is very fair-minded and might be an excellent Speaker. But why would he choose such a role over a Cabinet job? It would also be a political dead-end. You can’t be a party leader advocating policy and be an impartial Speaker at the same time. He has also been a very competent minister and Key should put that talent to good use.

    In comparison to a potential National cabinet, isn’t Audrey Young’s Labour selection a tired old bunch. Not to mention scary! She left out Steve Chadwick for some reason. A mistake? Or is she in bad odour with Helen? If so why?

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  7. J Mex (198 comments) says:

    National needs to do a quick maildrop and email to every small business owner in NZ.

    “The IRD works for you – Not the other way round. Say hello to their new boss…”

    The prospect of Hide in charge of the IRD is enough to get me out campaigning for National and ACT.

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  8. Brian Smaller (4,332 comments) says:

    Tariana in Welfare would be wonderful? I would prefer it if she was ON welfare. At least then she would be away from Parliament.

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  9. georgebolwing (1,051 comments) says:

    If I were National, I would appoint Michael Cullen Speaker.

    My reasoing is:

    a) he would go a good job. Michael really does love the Parliamentary side of things and knows standing orders backwards. Given that this would be the last political office he holds, he has no reason other than to be neutral;

    b) it would remove one of Labour best Parliamentary performers.

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  10. Lee C (2,987 comments) says:

    First posted on Jan 8th:

    “It is with great pleasure that I announce the fruition of many months of pressure and advocacy, and am proud to announce that the National-Lead Government, in conjunction with the Maori Party, have announced the setting up of a Royal Commission on Electoral Reform, to be headed by Hone Harawira and Bill English.

    Prime Minister John Key stated today in his first speech as Prime Minister of New Zealand;
    “We fought the election on the promise that we would ‘clean house’ and re-establish our parliamentary system as one to which the world would look at with envy, and the valuable first step of fumigating the abuse of the peoples’ trust which culminated in the Electoral Finance Act, 2007, is already being undertaken.”

    Hone Harawira, Minister for Electoral Reform (Maori Party)added;
    “The Maori Party is proud to stand as stewards for this hugely important reform of a corrupted parliamentary system and the National Party’s pledge that the Royal Commission will explore referendum options for issues which are close to the heart of Tangata Te Whenua can only add to our enthusiasm for the task.”

    Former Prime Minister Helen Clark had earlier wished Prime Minister John Key every success in his new role, and only added, that she “suspects that many of the seats won by National and the Maori Party were in contradiction of the spirit, if not the letter of, the Electoral Finance Act” She promised to seek legal redress to “right this cancerous situation whereby the numbers of votes cast appear to erroneously indicate a rejection of Labour’s policies.””

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  11. Murray (8,822 comments) says:

    Well we’ve seen how much damage a bad speaker can do so it would be a good idea to choose one that can do the damn job properly.

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  12. dave strings (608 comments) says:


    Well said. I was going to post exactly the same sentiments, and you did it for me!

    While Cullen is, indeed, a party buffoon, I believe he is also a great Parliamentarian, and he is one of very few that will be there next term who has been Leader of the House, as well as a student of Parliamentary Procedure and Standing Orders. I once saw him and David (the Clerk of The House) discuss an esoteric point of procedure and was impressed with his clarity of understanding!

    It is unusual, but not unprecedented, to have a member of the opposition in The Seat, and I would love the sight of John Kay and Helen Clark ‘dragging’ him from his common seat to the Speaker’s.

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  13. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    NEWSFLASH . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . . NEWSFLASH . . . .

    Dateline January 10th 2009, embargoed until noon.

    Helen Clark accepts position as NZ AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS

    In as swift a move as has ever been seen in a post election Parliament, Helen Clark today resigned her seat in Parliament to take up the position of Ambassador in New York offered to her this morning by Prime Minister John Key.

    “Many friends and colleagues know I have always admired the ability of the UN to get into solid debate on the issues facing the world, and I look forward to enhancing the average debate in the UN chamber by at least 2 days.” Ms Clark told the press gallery at the announcement. She went on to say “I said before the election that I could work with Mr. Key in non-confrontational circumstances, and as I provided clear precedents for this kind of arrangement by appointing Jim Bolger Ambassador to the USA there is clearly bi-partisan support for what John and I have agreed today. I look forward to meeting all the people whose support I will need to become the next Secretary General, and so establish a regime of iron-fisted management in the United Nations that even Margaret Thatcher would envy, if she had any working brain-cells left”.

    Ms. Clark (we suppose with her husband as he will receive a long-life diplomatic passport now), will depart for New York tonight, her replacement, number 27 on the Party List, will be sworn in tomorrow by the Clark. With the appointment of Michael Cullen to the role of Speaker of the House today, we now see the stage set for a major reshuffle of the Labour Party front benches, the initial move being a fight to the death for the position of Leader.

    Prime Minister John Key said “we have a lot to do in this Parliament, and I felt that tying the Labour Party up in the distractions of a restructuring bloodbath would make it easier to get on with doing what the country needs to set us on the path to our goal of being one of the top 10 countries in the world, measured by GDP per capita”.


    Further information available from Mr. Key’s Chief of staff, David Farrar, (04) 555-9999

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  14. gd (1,867 comments) says:

    dave strings Not beyond the bounds of possiblity just as Im picking Obama will appoint Hilary Clinton to the UN post She gets to stay in New York and is realitivly out of his hair whilst Bill can give him sage advice as required.

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  15. Murray (8,822 comments) says:

    You got Davids number wrong dave, its 555-666

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  16. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    Tariana and Sharples in cabinet, particularly with power over anything financial INCLUDING welfare payments would be a straight ticket to disaster and financial ruin for New Zealand. Thankfully John Key would rather lose an election than lose his principles, so this wilL NEVER happen

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  17. dave (860 comments) says:

    Peter Dunne will not be speaker. At all. Perhaps the Herald should start talking to MPs rather than interviewing their word processor.

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  18. Portia (204 comments) says:

    It would be quite shrewd to give away a couple of big hospital pass portfolios like Corrections and Social Welfare to coalition partners.

    Is it the case with National that the PM gets to choose the Cabinet as well as allocate portfolios? Or does caucus choose the people and the PM dish out portfolios?

    If the former, will John Key take the opportunity to snub those within caucus who have not been altogether supportive of him? And, if so, who’s likely to be for the chop?

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  19. Nigel Kearney (1,986 comments) says:

    Two points about the speaker:

    1. If Dunne is the only UF MP and becomes the speaker, won’t that cripple the party as far as being able to run a Parliamentary office, ask questions, etc?

    2. If Richard Worth is not the speaker, National will have to put him in cabinet. Surely they don’t want that?

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  20. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    UF Leader Peter Dunne…
    ACT leader Rodney Hide…
    Maori co-leader Pita Sharples…
    Maori co-leader Tariana Turia…

    This is all starting to sound a bit like – gulp – a HYDRA!!! 😛

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  21. gatcollie (8 comments) says:

    My goodness, it is depressing to see that after having publically bagged the National Party last election, Hekia Parata seems able to waltz into a cabinet spot over te Heu Heu and Henare who stayed within the tent and publically backed the party for the past three years. Doesn’t that just show a complete lack of loyalty? If Mr Key were to repay the loyalty of Henare and te Heu Heu with promoting a disloyal candidate above them, then perhaps he shouldn’t be surprised if the loyalty of his caucus colleagues is suspect. Also, Stephen Joyce has run perhaps the worst National campaign in quite a while. One would have to ask what he has done, considering his election experience (losing in ’05 and running a terrible campaign in ’08), to justify an immediate promotion into cabinet? At least make them get a year or two worth of experience before giving them the ministerial limousine!

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