Don’t worry, Madison’s quote is dear to my heart and I am sure that I will have ample opportunity to repeat it in the months ahead.

McCain was born in Panama!!!!!

The Senate passed a resolution confirming that he is a “natural born Citizen” under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution, on the grounds when he was born at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, the Canal was under U.S. control and that his father was on active service overseas. But it was always possible that if the result was close, someone would have challenged his nomination on the grounds that he was, in fact, an illegal alien!!

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I’m with you redbaiter.
Thought the commentary both professional and from leftytrefties was vacous and vicious in the fundie religious sense.

She’s a straight talker and they don’t know what that is.
let alone how to deal with it.

Sadly McCain was a chump and I have a sneaking suspicion that he didn’t want to win, as he didn’t do all that he could early enough.
If I’d been him I would have turned up at the first TV speech with my birth certificate held it up and asked to see OB1′s.
At the second if he didn’t have his with him, I would have walked off stage.

Palin would have, as she has the balls too and isn’t just a mouthpiece.

it may well be that OB1 has a legal ID.
Then again, well that makes an interesting conundrum doesn’t it.
Wonder if the boys at Langley are working overtime to get it all right for him.

What a pity that the point you make – which is one that needs nailing to the masthead of every publication in the country, supplemented by a bit of subliminal advertising during the soaps, so as to get it through to the majority – is lost amongst the usual “you’re a commie”, “no, you’re a fascist” general debate. I hope you’ll take the opportunity to repeat the point in future.

Hooton is deluded if he thinks there’s anyone “angelic” enough (to borrow from Madison) to rule without tending to despotism in some degree. What’s more, peddling such superficially appealing nonsense risks having people agree that, yes, they’ll slump in front of the telly and go on letting other people make their decisions for them, thanks.

He seems to be hankering for some sort of benign dictatorship, but suggesting we needn’t worry because the dictators won’t be politicians, they will have climbed a mountain or sailed a boat.

In fact that makes them no better nor worse than John Key or Phil Goff and certainly no more or less prone to hubris and corruption – but it does suggest their interests and talents lie elsewhere.

You’re right, of course, that the answer is a proper, enforceable Bill of Rights (and perhaps a Constitution). It’s something we to force onto the agenda of the promised review of MMP.

what country are you in Jack?

Did you know the EFB was a communist bill to supplant democracy and freedom in New Zealand and they lost the elections.

Now they’ve turned face and don’t want it.

who ever you are, you are not relevant to this country and therefore this blog.

What the hell more do they want????

What’s to respond to? The worthless assertions of some brain damaged commie retard that have been discredited so many times only someone severely intellectually handicapped would care to write them here again. Who cares?

I wonder who redfrightened thinks the “liberal media” is. Fox? NBC? Time? My gosh, Rupert Murdoch is a commie?

“Liberal media bias” is an invention of arsewipes like you and your bum buddie Rush Limbaugh because you HATE democracy and freedom. You then hide behind your media power and claim to be the victim, all the time creating new victims with your failed policies of the past.

Right wing trollops like you and your post turtle Palin stand against everything that is good about humanity.

As with MMP, this idea continues the theme that there is a way of selecting wise people to govern us well.

Writing over 200 years ago in the Federalist Papers, James Madison told us that the root problem is that any method of selecting people to govern ends up selecting people to govern, with all their frailties and flaws:

“If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.”

Those “auxiliary provisions” include, in the case of the US: a federal structure; the separation of powers; checks and balances and, perhaps above all, the protections in the Bill of Rights and the other amendments to the Constitution (like the 14th, 15th and 19th).

The sooner we have a bill of rights in New Zealand preserving the right to free expression, privacy and property, the sooner will will have to stop mucking around with electoral systems.

As if a communist like you would know what a gentleman was. A representative of the most cruel and vicious ideology mankind has ever had to bear. A knuckle dragging loser whose forte is false allegations and smears of the type that have been used by every left wing monster from Joe Stalin to Mao to the totalitarian scum that govern China today. A jack booted ignoramus with a head full of the same contempt for humanity as the SS who bayoneted the Jews into the cattle cars during WWII. I know what you are dirtbag. You’re the face of totalitarianism, and all you’ve ever got is the same old same old tyrannical obsession to discredit your political opponents. You haven’t even tried an argument now in three posts.

charming stuff. Written by a true and erudite gentleman

Please don’t presume to order me about you mental midget. I’ll use whatever kilobytes I choose, and its got fuck all to do with ill mannered poorly educated drop kicks like you.

“i dont think your welfare check”

and this attempted smear that leaves no doubt about your own cowardly ignorance, is supported by what evidence?

“And then we would all be”

“We all”???

Please specify who from this site has assigned you the right to express opinions on their behalf. If you cannot provide such IDs, I suggest you go see a psychiatrist and tell him you’re suffering from multiple personality disorder and delusions of grandeur/ megalomania. Don’t be embarrassed to admit it, there’s a lot of your kind out there suffering the same brain damage.

PS: I am sorry that your party vote for the Bill and Ben Party was wasted…

Nope, its ignorant propagandizing communist knuckle draggers like you, bit by bit by bit reducing my choices and freedoms and incrementally destroying democracy with your hate driven smears against Sarah Palin or anyone who ever challenges your sick socialist ideas.

Hey dickwad, save your sad attempts to be funny for your left wing looney bin mates. Get off the computer and back to your basket weaving. I never look at leftist links, and anyway, the idea that communist scum like you should be spared anger is rapidly getting out of date loser. Wake up. We’re coming after you totalitarian ignoramuses.