Herald on Jones

November 22nd, 2008 at 9:20 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

Documents show former Cabinet minister was told a Chinese businessman was under criminal investigation for alleged identity fraud at the time Mr Jones approved his citizenship application.

Mr Jones approved ’s application in August against the strong advice of officials. Mr Liu has donated money to Labour and National in the past and received letters of support from MPs of both parties.

Papers released to journalist Ian Wishart under the Official Information Act show the extent of officials’ concerns in their recommendation to Mr Jones.

In his weekly newspaper TGIF, Wishart quotes parts of the report which show Mr Jones was told Mr Liu was under criminal investigation by Immigration’s fraud unit over allegations he had used a false identity, including obtaining two false passports.

Under another name, he was also subject to an Interpol “red notice” for a warrant of arrest in China for alleged serious financial fraud.

The report advised against accepting the application, saying “it is considered that Mr Liu does not meet the good character requirement” to be eligible for citizenship.

The first question is a simple one. Why did Shane Jones ignore all this information, and grant citizenship against the advice of officials?

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14 Responses to “Herald on Jones”

  1. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,820 comments) says:

    Naked CORRUPTION.

    Remember? That’s why we kicked Clark out on her ass two weeks ago. Good times.

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  2. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    What a lame article by Claire Trevett. No punch at all and far too kind to Shane Jones, who is of course a lamestream media favourite.

    Real shame for Claire is that if she had got off her fat useless left wing arse and done her job properly, she’d be getting the credit for this story instead of Ian Wishart. Like most NZ journalists Trevett thinks she has a mission to pave the way for socialism, not protect the public from the power and corruption of big cronyist government.

    Once again, Wishart puts his lamestream media colleagues to shame. Merely by doing his job.

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  3. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    The first question is a simple one. Why did Shane Jones ignore all this information, and grant citizenship against the advice of officials?

    Let me answer by posing a second question:
    “Why does a dog lick his balls?”
    answer:
    Because he can….”

    As indeed just about everyone in the last government felt they could….

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  4. Barnsley Bill (982 comments) says:

    Some people say Lee C is a lightweight, I would say look at his comment.. Sums up a decade of graft in a simple vulgar joke.
    Brilliant.

    I wonder why Jones did not get a bigger role in the shadow cabinet? No I don’t.. He is going down now that the cloak of invincibility has been removed. As OECD said.. Good times.

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  5. Bok (740 comments) says:

    The only chance NZ politics have, is for these rorts and scams to see the light of day and for those who perpetrated them to be prosecuted, no matter what party you belong to.

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  6. Rod (236 comments) says:

    I don’t know a lot about Shane Jones, but have watched him touted as an up and coming potential leader for our country for several years, and wondered why.

    Just as Winston Peters was paraded as a potential prime minister for many years.

    What does this say about the judgement of those in the media and other influential circles who push these people to the front in New Zealand?

    Is it just that such people speak confidently and are pushy? Have a little charisma?

    Political scientists and later British MP Austin Mitchell long ago described an earlier generation of New Zealanders as the Prussians of the South Pacific – maybe referring to the generation of voters who supported Winston Peters. I hope the last election shows we have matured enough to value ethics and proven competence over merely an air of authority and pushy self confident charisma in our leaders.

    Voting for charisma seems to have put a lot of the wrong kind of people into power, as a series of wars and political disasters have shown around the world and down through the ages.

    Time for a clean out.

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  7. PhilBest (5,120 comments) says:

    “The first question is a simple one. Why did Shane Jones ignore all this information, and grant citizenship against the advice of officials?”

    Why has no-one mentioned yet, the simple answer?

    Labour has been in the habit lately, of holding fundraising evenings, and passing the hat round. The hat sometimes ends up containing as much as 200Grand in wads and wads of crispies.

    President Mike Williams does not even deny it, saying, what’s wrong with that, it’s a free country, we can’t stop people giving us that much cash anonymously if they want to……….

    Why was this not being trumpeted to the heavens in the run up to the election, or since? I mean, one would think the party of government who had seen the need to legislate against money buying influence in politics, the party who railed against bagmen and big money, one would have thought that hypocrisy of this nature would have been an issue worth emphasising publicly.

    And I am one who personally thinks that there should be no limits, but this particular issue is an issue of rank, foul, rotten, hypocrisy and corruption.

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  8. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Shane Jones is-

    1) A lefty and,

    2) a Maori

    This makes him bulletproof to the NZ lamestream liberal media. Same as Obama in the US.

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  9. Johnboy (15,602 comments) says:

    I only know Shane from listening to him on Holmes and to me he is the brown, male equivalent of Wendyl Nissin.

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  10. Turpin (342 comments) says:

    He knew all the information and applied his mind to the possible consequences, knowing the man’s history with his dept saying “whoa hold on me mate”..
    This shows he hasn’t got good judgement and shouldn’t be considered for any leadership at this time.
    Corruption.
    Will anyhting be done now he’s out of office.
    I don’t think so it’ll die down in a week or two with our media.
    thank god for Wishart at elast he has the balls to chew the guys up.
    can’t wait for him to get into National and Act.
    our other journalists wouldn’t know how to spell investigation let alone what it means.
    soundbite yes
    your round absolutely

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  11. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Claire Trevett actually asks the questions, maybe not as vigourously as you would like Red, but she does get in amongst it.

    Common Red, You know its illegal in this country to criticise minorities like Jones – fat lippy welsh fuckers.

    ;)

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  12. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    Voting for charisma seems to have put a lot of the wrong kind of people into power, as a series of wars and political disasters have shown around the world and down through the ages.

    How many times have I thought that to myself. Most recently during the Obama campaign.

    People without any emotional stability or self control will always choose the hype over the substance. Unfortunately, that seems to be about 70% of the population of NZ – maybe the world. Kinda puts the hope surrounding democracy in a dimmer light.

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  13. Ross Miller (1,681 comments) says:

    Up here Jones has been long been figured out as basically lazy. It goes to explain why John Carter increased his majority over him to 10,054 while Jones managed to decrease Labour’s Party vote from from 30.1% to 25.2% – and this in a low decile electorate.

    This is the man who wanted to regulate your showers. Just why the media see as him as Labour’s ‘great brown hope’ quite escapes me.

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  14. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    >> Just why the media see as him as Labour’s ‘great brown hope’ quite escapes me.

    Because the Labour spin meisters to tell thats what they should think.

    My opinion is that Jones is a fat lippy bullying fucker. And it would make sense that he is lazy – goes with he profile.

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