..extolling the ‘virtues’/financial acumen of ol’ wodger..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

both the left and right ones are looking shaky..(thanks for asking..)

..d’yaknow any good mechanics up here in our sub-tropical paradise..auckland..?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)

You need to wake up to the fact that Palin is the victim of a massive disinformation campaign conducted by her political enemies and designed to undermine her political credibility. Your feeble compulsion to smugly repeat every lie that is told about her is quite nauseating. Definitely not brave.

The frenzy with which the left have attacked her demonstrates one thing- they fear her immensely, and the reason they fear her is because she possesses the ability to destroy their dogma. Not drinking any of the cool aid that media driven wimps like you gulp down by the litre Rex, she speaks truth and sanity. Uncowed by Marxist political correctness, she confronts the so called intelligentsia and academics on their transparent bullshit, and as always when such an event occurs, they have nothing. Nothing but hate and denigration that is, and the desire to destroy.

She has been portrayed as something completely different to what she is, and its time you woke up to this kind of propaganda based manipulation of public opinion. Most people with a brain have long ago.

These Lefties should get use to it, there’s a new sheriff in town.

Roger Douglas is the best MP in the new parliament. He should be given an important role to do in between giving John Key advice on how to fix the broken economy Labour has left the new National/ACT government.

As a side issue, what’s Roger Douglas going to say in his opening speech to parliament? Will Clark and Cullen be rude bitches again and make themselves absent from parliament? If so then the new government should make damn sure Clark is never appointed to any international body that represents New Zealand. Let her disappear into obscurity.

My view is that ACT aren’t in a position to demand anything. And nor do they need to. The relationship between ACT and National won’t be one where ACT demand, and National grudgingly give. I think they are more friendly than that, and there are a number of areas of overlap in policy (and, in fact, overlap with the Maori Party as well). There are also a number of areas where ACT has policy or policy ideas that National doesn’t have, but that National have no objection to. It simply isn’t true that every policy of ACT involves eating live babies, those that don’t involve baby eating are actually quite palatable.

As for the Maori v’s ACT – basically any law that any group in parliament can get a majority for, gets passed (assuming it gets drawn from the ballot etc). If Key can get enough support for a particular law without turning to ACT, he’ll pass it. If he can get it from National/ACT, then he’ll pass that. Presumably if ACT could get support for a law from Labour, Maori, Greens and ACT, they’d go ahead and pass it, even if National didn’t like it. That is the nature of our representative democracy, and it isn’t really all that exciting. Personally I look forward to the day when parties formally considered to be the “opposition” can put forward ideas and get them into law without the major government party’s support. It would be healthy.

So, what does all this mean? It means that those of ACTs policies that National finds palatable will probably get implemented. Particularly those that both ACT and Maori support (there are some of those). It may mean that a couple of things that National don’t care that much about but wouldn’t do on their own get passed, and a few more things that ACT would prefer were a bit different but can live with get passed. Trying to beat this up into some sort of lurch to the right, or some sort of showdown with Hide, is really just silly.

You mean like most countries moving to lower and flatter taxes?

If what he is proposing we do is such “common sense” and so very clearly “right” then why don’t we see clear and simple explanations of it, and supporters extolling its virtues in plain English, everywhere?

Keys economic policies are a pale shade of Rog’s

Roger is hailed internationally as THE man who fixed NZ. And , I heard someone say that none of the subsequent governments ever reversed Rogers changes (I was a youngster back then so he was a bit before my time).

The lefties say Rog ruined NZ – But, wasn’t NZ nearly bankrupt? How can lefties justify spending money they don’t have? If Rog hadn’t have made his changes I think we’d be worse off today.

llew, I think you’ll find that no one really gives a toss about people living off taxpayers money being coerced into doing anything,

True – I misread that & neglected to notice the “get a job” comment. Context, context…

Has the penny dropped that your lot lost the election?

Nothing you post here has any credibility.

How is that CV looking?

..if only..!

..eh..?

..hasn’t the penny dropped yet that you have a centrist prime minister..?

..who is trying to distance himself as much as possible from rightwing nutjobs like act..

..give us a yell when you wake up..

..eh..?

..phil(whoar.co.nz)

Excellent idea for Sir Roger, DPF. I’d always thought he’d be better used as the fiscal equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition, having overpaid government CEOs dragged before him and made to explain what value we’re getting for the horrendous amounts of money they send, including their own salaries.

As a Minister he’d have responsibility for just one department. As, say, something in Associate Finance he’d have a basically toothless “overview” role, with his ankles hobbled by the Minister. But as Chairman of the Finance and Expenditure Select Committee, the bloated bureaucracies would be making their own cuts rather than have to face him and explain their profligacy.

Here’s hoping your advice is heeded.