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	<title>Comments on: Labour&#8217;s problem with Mt Albert</title>
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		<title>By: shaunwallis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-519988</link>
		<dc:creator>shaunwallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on a minute, won&#039;t Judy go with Helen overseas anyway? =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on a minute, won&#8217;t Judy go with Helen overseas anyway? =)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour will get the seat whoever they stand. I live in it, and seriously, this is not a blue electorate. Auckland Central&#039;s shock loss to National will not happen here - the area is not gentrified, it doesn&#039;t contain a Ponsonby/Herne Bay equivalent. I expect the closer party vote was &#039;to send a message&#039;. The message has been sent, I doubt it will be sent again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour will get the seat whoever they stand. I live in it, and seriously, this is not a blue electorate. Auckland Central&#8217;s shock loss to National will not happen here &#8211; the area is not gentrified, it doesn&#8217;t contain a Ponsonby/Herne Bay equivalent. I expect the closer party vote was &#8216;to send a message&#8217;. The message has been sent, I doubt it will be sent again.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518466</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?

Maybe Hulun got mixed up with Mt Albert and Mt Eden. I mean Hulun lives in Mt Albert doesn&#039;t she? Oh, I mean Mt Eden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?</p>
<p>Maybe Hulun got mixed up with Mt Albert and Mt Eden. I mean Hulun lives in Mt Albert doesn&#8217;t she? Oh, I mean Mt Eden.</p>
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		<title>By: gabba gabba hey</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518465</link>
		<dc:creator>gabba gabba hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the odd photo opp in the local schools and their galas where her fellow Uni / T-Col ugly wimmin acolytes fawn all over her, and the election year st lukes visit with party enourages she has been invisible in Mt Albert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the odd photo opp in the local schools and their galas where her fellow Uni / T-Col ugly wimmin acolytes fawn all over her, and the election year st lukes visit with party enourages she has been invisible in Mt Albert</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518461</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see she managed the Salt family out of Mt Albert to protect her tax paying electorate. Not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see she managed the Salt family out of Mt Albert to protect her tax paying electorate. Not.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518460</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard through the grapevine you wouldn&#039;t get a look in with &#039;her people&#039; unless you were a refugee cause she wanted loads of UN type stuff going on in her patch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard through the grapevine you wouldn&#8217;t get a look in with &#8216;her people&#8217; unless you were a refugee cause she wanted loads of UN type stuff going on in her patch.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518459</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You reckon Hulun hasn&#039;t been paying much attention to her electorate gabba gabba hey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You reckon Hulun hasn&#8217;t been paying much attention to her electorate gabba gabba hey?</p>
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		<title>By: gabba gabba hey</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518458</link>
		<dc:creator>gabba gabba hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post should read &quot;Mt Albert&#039;s problem with Labour&quot;. HC has not been an effective local MP and parts of her electorate are slipping into 3rd world ghettos. The next MP won&#039;t have to do much to improve on her non-performance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post should read &#8220;Mt Albert&#8217;s problem with Labour&#8221;. HC has not been an effective local MP and parts of her electorate are slipping into 3rd world ghettos. The next MP won&#8217;t have to do much to improve on her non-performance</p>
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		<title>By: jackp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, since reading the above comments I have noticed a prevailing silence...... from Winston Peters.  What a nice feeling.  Since the new Parliament opened, this is the best I have ever heard him talk and say........ nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, since reading the above comments I have noticed a prevailing silence&#8230;&#8230; from Winston Peters.  What a nice feeling.  Since the new Parliament opened, this is the best I have ever heard him talk and say&#8230;&#8230;.. nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518396</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iprent

This free exchange of views is fun aye, what a pity you are not keen on free speech, I guess that is why you come here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iprent</p>
<p>This free exchange of views is fun aye, what a pity you are not keen on free speech, I guess that is why you come here.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518395</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPF: Dissection is a lot easier from opposition than it is from the treasury benches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF: Dissection is a lot easier from opposition than it is from the treasury benches.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518394</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Labour’s problem with Mt Albert&quot;

I believe you have the title of this post mixed up David, from what I understand it should read:

&quot;Mt Albert&#039;s problem with Labour&quot;



Ratbiter opines thus - &quot;Oh and another thing - you assume in all of this that the general voting public in Mt Albert will share your distaste for Tizard, and that seems like a bit of an assumption IMHO…&quot;

Mr Biter, I think you&#039;ll find that Tizard will be welcomed like a turd in a burning brown paper bag on ones doorstep in Mt Albert.



Jacob Van Hartog cattarhs - &quot;You exaggerate your influence if the Mt Albert voters will worry about whos who on the list&quot;

Mr V. Hartog and Biter seem to be placing a great deal of emphasis on the simple folk of Mt Albert merrily voting Red irrespective of the candidates at hand.  


Iprent froths - &quot;As for Mt Albert, Helen will decide when she wants to stand down (if she does)&quot;

Perhaps Helen could spend her time serving the needs of her constituency this term.  Her Prime Ministerial duties led to less than satisfactory local focus over the past decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Labour’s problem with Mt Albert&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe you have the title of this post mixed up David, from what I understand it should read:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mt Albert&#8217;s problem with Labour&#8221;</p>
<p>Ratbiter opines thus &#8211; &#8220;Oh and another thing &#8211; you assume in all of this that the general voting public in Mt Albert will share your distaste for Tizard, and that seems like a bit of an assumption IMHO…&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Biter, I think you&#8217;ll find that Tizard will be welcomed like a turd in a burning brown paper bag on ones doorstep in Mt Albert.</p>
<p>Jacob Van Hartog cattarhs &#8211; &#8220;You exaggerate your influence if the Mt Albert voters will worry about whos who on the list&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr V. Hartog and Biter seem to be placing a great deal of emphasis on the simple folk of Mt Albert merrily voting Red irrespective of the candidates at hand.  </p>
<p>Iprent froths &#8211; &#8220;As for Mt Albert, Helen will decide when she wants to stand down (if she does)&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps Helen could spend her time serving the needs of her constituency this term.  Her Prime Ministerial duties led to less than satisfactory local focus over the past decade.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518390</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iprent

&quot;Anyway, how long do you think it will be before Helen starts concentrating on dissecting JK?&quot;

Are you serious?, she would not dare raise her head above the parapet given the way she lied to the people of NZ in the recent election campaign.
The other reason is that she knows her very future is in the hands of John Key and like any low life socialist she has no ability to make a living unless it is from the public tit.

BTW, how are you guys over at the Standard getting on without tax payer funding?

[DPF: Comments on The Standard are best made at The Standard, if within their AUP, not here]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iprent</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway, how long do you think it will be before Helen starts concentrating on dissecting JK?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you serious?, she would not dare raise her head above the parapet given the way she lied to the people of NZ in the recent election campaign.<br />
The other reason is that she knows her very future is in the hands of John Key and like any low life socialist she has no ability to make a living unless it is from the public tit.</p>
<p>BTW, how are you guys over at the Standard getting on without tax payer funding?</p>
<p>[DPF: Comments on The Standard are best made at The Standard, if within their AUP, not here]</p>
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		<title>By: pdm</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518389</link>
		<dc:creator>pdm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god it has just occured to me - Jordan Carter for Mt Albert!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god it has just occured to me &#8211; Jordan Carter for Mt Albert!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518388</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPF: I see that the mischief making that is your trademark operating. Big bruv (for once ) is correct. There is no dilemma

The trademark of Helen is that she changes the ground-rules. You&#039;re going to see that unusual sight, a ex-PM who actively relishes her role of being the ex-PM. She will create mischief - there are lots of suitable targets on the other side. Helen is very effective in opposition. She is going to enjoy herself. There are new MP&#039;s to mentor. NACT select committee chair people who will have issues in their select committees.

As for Mt Albert, Helen will decide when she wants to stand down (if she does), and the Mt Albert LEC including her will make the choice of sucessor. We&#039;re very cohesive, quite effective, and don&#039;t tolerate shit from anyone - shows in the results.

Anyway, how long do you think it will be before Helen starts concentrating on dissecting JK?

[DPF: Actually the LEC does not choose the successor, as you know. The selection panel does. But in this case the LEC I am sure will have far more influence than normal.

If Helen was up to dissecting JK, it would have made more sense for her to do so before the election,not afterwards I must say.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF: I see that the mischief making that is your trademark operating. Big bruv (for once ) is correct. There is no dilemma</p>
<p>The trademark of Helen is that she changes the ground-rules. You&#8217;re going to see that unusual sight, a ex-PM who actively relishes her role of being the ex-PM. She will create mischief &#8211; there are lots of suitable targets on the other side. Helen is very effective in opposition. She is going to enjoy herself. There are new MP&#8217;s to mentor. NACT select committee chair people who will have issues in their select committees.</p>
<p>As for Mt Albert, Helen will decide when she wants to stand down (if she does), and the Mt Albert LEC including her will make the choice of sucessor. We&#8217;re very cohesive, quite effective, and don&#8217;t tolerate shit from anyone &#8211; shows in the results.</p>
<p>Anyway, how long do you think it will be before Helen starts concentrating on dissecting JK?</p>
<p>[DPF: Actually the LEC does not choose the successor, as you know. The selection panel does. But in this case the LEC I am sure will have far more influence than normal.</p>
<p>If Helen was up to dissecting JK, it would have made more sense for her to do so before the election,not afterwards I must say.]</p>
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		<title>By: Delivery Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518381</link>
		<dc:creator>Delivery Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reasonbly sure that Little is waiting for either King or Mallard&#039;s seat to be vacated, as I&#039;m certain that he does not want to move his family from Wellington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reasonbly sure that Little is waiting for either King or Mallard&#8217;s seat to be vacated, as I&#8217;m certain that he does not want to move his family from Wellington.</p>
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		<title>By: Delivery Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518380</link>
		<dc:creator>Delivery Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reasonbly sure that Little is waiting for either King or Mallard&#039;s seat to be vacated, as I&#039;m sure that he does not want to move his family from Wellington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reasonbly sure that Little is waiting for either King or Mallard&#8217;s seat to be vacated, as I&#8217;m sure that he does not want to move his family from Wellington.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518371</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I want to see Kark suffer John Key would be wise to get her a nice overseas posting and out of the house as soon as possible.

While she was beaten at the last election many Kiwi&#039;s will still see her as a possible future PM when the honeymoon period is over and the going gets a bit tougher for the Nat&#039;s as the economic turmoil deepens.

She remains Labours biggest asset and the sole reason they polled as well as they did at the last election, get rid of her and Labour cease to be a credible opposition for at least six years, Labour will only become a force to be reckoned with when Andrew Little is the leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I want to see Kark suffer John Key would be wise to get her a nice overseas posting and out of the house as soon as possible.</p>
<p>While she was beaten at the last election many Kiwi&#8217;s will still see her as a possible future PM when the honeymoon period is over and the going gets a bit tougher for the Nat&#8217;s as the economic turmoil deepens.</p>
<p>She remains Labours biggest asset and the sole reason they polled as well as they did at the last election, get rid of her and Labour cease to be a credible opposition for at least six years, Labour will only become a force to be reckoned with when Andrew Little is the leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518366</link>
		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a good credible Act candidate with the Nats not bothering. Good for the Nats long term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a good credible Act candidate with the Nats not bothering. Good for the Nats long term.</p>
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		<title>By: Cactus Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/12/labours_problem_with_mt_albert.html#comment-518352</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactus Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious.

Bring Back Tizard I say!!!

Of COURSE she wants to be back in there DPF, what makes you think she wouldn&#039;t wish to keep suckling off the taxpayers large breasts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious.</p>
<p>Bring Back Tizard I say!!!</p>
<p>Of COURSE she wants to be back in there DPF, what makes you think she wouldn&#8217;t wish to keep suckling off the taxpayers large breasts?</p>
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