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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524712</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should never have touched our soil. Same plane back to where he came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should never have touched our soil. Same plane back to where he came from.</p>
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		<title>By: Dazzaman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524666</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazzaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Zaoui.......but it should never have led to him being kept in jail for as long as he did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, that&#039;s right......it should have led to him being deported!   Where?  Anywhere!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Zaoui&#8230;&#8230;.but it should never have led to him being kept in jail for as long as he did.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s right&#8230;&#8230;it should have led to him being deported!   Where?  Anywhere!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524638</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serously ratdick are you STILL blaming the last National government? What are you Irish and still blaming Cromwell for being a dickhead now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serously ratdick are you STILL blaming the last National government? What are you Irish and still blaming Cromwell for being a dickhead now?</p>
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		<title>By: Seán</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524636</link>
		<dc:creator>Seán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a left wing loony that Anita is. Surprised DPF agreed with as much as he did. After reading that list of concerns which have obviously riled the left, I´m half tempted to vote Labour!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a left wing loony that Anita is. Surprised DPF agreed with as much as he did. After reading that list of concerns which have obviously riled the left, I´m half tempted to vote Labour!!</p>
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		<title>By: jafapete</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524628</link>
		<dc:creator>jafapete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the vote, DPF.

Edgeler: &quot;There are communities on trial? How did I miss that?&quot; Anita didn&#039;t say on trial. She said &quot;invaded and harrassed&quot; That&#039;s what you missed.

I2: If you look at Roger Nome&#039;s own blog, you&#039;ll see that he has a very serious side. I guess he just found kiwiblog an outlet for his other side.

Manolo: &quot;“I am a bit surprised she doesn’t mention the tolerating Peters and/or the EFA” &quot;Why would you be surprised, DPF? These bleeding-heart lefties are very choosy in selecting the causes they support.&quot; Note that I discussed this in my comment on Anita&#039;s post.

Big bruv: Nutter? Not everyone who you disagree with is a nutter. More likely not, in fact.

And for all those who think that we are &quot;far left&quot;, visit socialistaotearoa.blogspot.com and then you&#039;ll know what far left looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the vote, DPF.</p>
<p>Edgeler: &#8220;There are communities on trial? How did I miss that?&#8221; Anita didn&#8217;t say on trial. She said &#8220;invaded and harrassed&#8221; That&#8217;s what you missed.</p>
<p>I2: If you look at Roger Nome&#8217;s own blog, you&#8217;ll see that he has a very serious side. I guess he just found kiwiblog an outlet for his other side.</p>
<p>Manolo: &#8220;“I am a bit surprised she doesn’t mention the tolerating Peters and/or the EFA” &#8220;Why would you be surprised, DPF? These bleeding-heart lefties are very choosy in selecting the causes they support.&#8221; Note that I discussed this in my comment on Anita&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>Big bruv: Nutter? Not everyone who you disagree with is a nutter. More likely not, in fact.</p>
<p>And for all those who think that we are &#8220;far left&#8221;, visit socialistaotearoa.blogspot.com and then you&#8217;ll know what far left looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524612</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about house prices spiraling out of control?  The 5th Labour government was too weak kneed to even tinker with hugely flawed tax legislation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about house prices spiraling out of control?  The 5th Labour government was too weak kneed to even tinker with hugely flawed tax legislation!</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524589</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose all the government employees have to have somewhere to go and play while we pay them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose all the government employees have to have somewhere to go and play while we pay them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524565</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashman ... because that&#039;s what died in the wool, believing lefties like to do while opening another bottle of Chardonnay and toasting the revolution.    

Oh, and never never never mention the EFA.   It was all a mistake and as Phil Goof said so it must be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashman &#8230; because that&#8217;s what died in the wool, believing lefties like to do while opening another bottle of Chardonnay and toasting the revolution.    </p>
<p>Oh, and never never never mention the EFA.   It was all a mistake and as Phil Goof said so it must be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Flashman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524542</link>
		<dc:creator>Flashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 5th Labour Govt is dead and buried.  Thank God.

Why would anyone choose to waste seconds of joyful life exhuming it and doing an autopsy on its foul reeking liquid corpse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 5th Labour Govt is dead and buried.  Thank God.</p>
<p>Why would anyone choose to waste seconds of joyful life exhuming it and doing an autopsy on its foul reeking liquid corpse?</p>
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		<title>By: He-Man</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524539</link>
		<dc:creator>He-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;put NZ troops into Afghanistan and Iraq - Afghanistan was 100% the right thing to do.&lt;/i&gt;

100 percent better for the Heroin trade, thats right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>put NZ troops into Afghanistan and Iraq &#8211; Afghanistan was 100% the right thing to do.</i></p>
<p>100 percent better for the Heroin trade, thats right!</p>
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		<title>By: Ratbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524528</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>southtop - whoa there! Thank Saint Shipley for the more-managers-than-beds-in-our-hospitals thing. How many CHEs and HFAs did they create again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southtop &#8211; whoa there! Thank Saint Shipley for the more-managers-than-beds-in-our-hospitals thing. How many CHEs and HFAs did they create again?</p>
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		<title>By: southtop</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524525</link>
		<dc:creator>southtop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita left numerous other issues out:
#Excessive taxation
#Now more managers than beds in our hospitals
#Ministry of Ed numbers from 450 to 2500 in five years with what real improvement in education outcomes?
#Politicised civil service
#Interesting relationship between government and police
#Lack of accountability regarding government contracts (HBDHB) 
#Marginal improvement (if any) in NZ infrastructure.... electricity, roads although we now have an obsolete train set
#2002 Local Government Act ... enough said 
#No constitutional movement regarding the safe guarding of peoples rights i.e. govt can do anything they want without consequence e.g. retrospective legislation after tax theft for reelection.

Although they did stuff up the AGW issue which will be of benefit once the warmists are sorted

Shouldn&#039;t do this just get angry all over again. Still have serious doubts JK &amp; Team will do much rectifying though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita left numerous other issues out:<br />
#Excessive taxation<br />
#Now more managers than beds in our hospitals<br />
#Ministry of Ed numbers from 450 to 2500 in five years with what real improvement in education outcomes?<br />
#Politicised civil service<br />
#Interesting relationship between government and police<br />
#Lack of accountability regarding government contracts (HBDHB)<br />
#Marginal improvement (if any) in NZ infrastructure&#8230;. electricity, roads although we now have an obsolete train set<br />
#2002 Local Government Act &#8230; enough said<br />
#No constitutional movement regarding the safe guarding of peoples rights i.e. govt can do anything they want without consequence e.g. retrospective legislation after tax theft for reelection.</p>
<p>Although they did stuff up the AGW issue which will be of benefit once the warmists are sorted</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t do this just get angry all over again. Still have serious doubts JK &amp; Team will do much rectifying though?</p>
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		<title>By: Ratbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524521</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angus - you&#039;re not willing to entertain the notion that Anita might actually be MOTIVATED by compassion, then?

PS: Hey, maybe that&#039;s why righties hate lefties so much - they can&#039;t help but assign the lefties their own selfish motivations and lust for wealth and power accumulation? :-P
(Jokes, peeps. Take it easy... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angus &#8211; you&#8217;re not willing to entertain the notion that Anita might actually be MOTIVATED by compassion, then?</p>
<p>PS: Hey, maybe that&#8217;s why righties hate lefties so much &#8211; they can&#8217;t help but assign the lefties their own selfish motivations and lust for wealth and power accumulation? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
(Jokes, peeps. Take it easy&#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524519</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go and check it out....usual economically illiterate Lefties regurgitating bullshit...its like shooting retarded fish in a barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go and check it out&#8230;.usual economically illiterate Lefties regurgitating bullshit&#8230;its like shooting retarded fish in a barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524512</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the &lt;i&gt;point&lt;/i&gt; of DPF&#039;s raising this is to illustrate that part of the left and part of the right can reach the same conclusion - i.e. Clark&#039;s Labour government was very, very wrong on a whole raft of issues - though they arrived there from totally opposing starting points?

To cite but one example. I assume Anita would want to see a quite intensive legislative and policy program to address climate change whereas DPF is much more conservative in his approach and some commenters would argue absolutely nothing should be done. However the one thing all can agree on is that the &lt;i&gt;worst&lt;/i&gt; thing one can do on the issue is spout rhetoric, run round interfering in what sort of lightbulbs people are allowed to buy, and yet achieve &lt;i&gt;absolutely nothing&lt;/i&gt; - aka hypocrisy.

That there can be agreement from opposite sides of politics, and without in any way accepting the other&#039;s route to the conclusion as correct, shows just how dire has been the political management of the past nine years.

Yet this is a PM some on the left will still claim, straight faced, as &quot;the best in recent history&quot; and other such nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the <i>point</i> of DPF&#8217;s raising this is to illustrate that part of the left and part of the right can reach the same conclusion &#8211; i.e. Clark&#8217;s Labour government was very, very wrong on a whole raft of issues &#8211; though they arrived there from totally opposing starting points?</p>
<p>To cite but one example. I assume Anita would want to see a quite intensive legislative and policy program to address climate change whereas DPF is much more conservative in his approach and some commenters would argue absolutely nothing should be done. However the one thing all can agree on is that the <i>worst</i> thing one can do on the issue is spout rhetoric, run round interfering in what sort of lightbulbs people are allowed to buy, and yet achieve <i>absolutely nothing</i> &#8211; aka hypocrisy.</p>
<p>That there can be agreement from opposite sides of politics, and without in any way accepting the other&#8217;s route to the conclusion as correct, shows just how dire has been the political management of the past nine years.</p>
<p>Yet this is a PM some on the left will still claim, straight faced, as &#8220;the best in recent history&#8221; and other such nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524507</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A right critique of the 5th Labour Government: They&#039;re a bunch of lying thieving corrupt bastards who can consider themselves lucky not to already be in jail. 

We&#039;re working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A right critique of the 5th Labour Government: They&#8217;re a bunch of lying thieving corrupt bastards who can consider themselves lucky not to already be in jail. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524479</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PhilBest said -
“DPF, the one serious omission from your list of “must read” blogs, is Trevor Loudon’s “New Zeal”.

LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PhilBest said -<br />
“DPF, the one serious omission from your list of “must read” blogs, is Trevor Loudon’s “New Zeal”.</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524478</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anita&#039;s list of points are typical of the self-aggrandizing horseshit all trendy lefties spout off ... all designed to demonstrate such virtue and compassion, giving her a huge sense of moral superiority and ego boost. *yawn*

PhilBest said - 
&quot;DPF, the one serious omission from your list of “must read” blogs, is Trevor Loudon’s “New Zeal”. 

Agreed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anita&#8217;s list of points are typical of the self-aggrandizing horseshit all trendy lefties spout off &#8230; all designed to demonstrate such virtue and compassion, giving her a huge sense of moral superiority and ego boost. *yawn*</p>
<p>PhilBest said &#8211;<br />
&#8220;DPF, the one serious omission from your list of “must read” blogs, is Trevor Loudon’s “New Zeal”. </p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524464</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;released an wonderful disability strategy, and completely failed to implement it - don’t know enough on this area to comment. I should.&quot;

Our charity looked at this some years ago and concluded it&#039;s mostly waffle with no hard edges to it. Internationally we are woeful in the treatment of the disabled.

JC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;released an wonderful disability strategy, and completely failed to implement it &#8211; don’t know enough on this area to comment. I should.&#8221;</p>
<p>Our charity looked at this some years ago and concluded it&#8217;s mostly waffle with no hard edges to it. Internationally we are woeful in the treatment of the disabled.</p>
<p>JC</p>
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		<title>By: Ratbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/a_left_critique_of_the_5th_labour_government.html#comment-524458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the whole POINT... ...is economic collapse and the end of free markets and human freedom;&quot;

NO Phil. That is in your head, she doesn&#039;t say anything like this. I think we are getting a bit silly now.

Unless I have it all wrong and you are, in fact, able to read her mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the whole POINT&#8230; &#8230;is economic collapse and the end of free markets and human freedom;&#8221;</p>
<p>NO Phil. That is in your head, she doesn&#8217;t say anything like this. I think we are getting a bit silly now.</p>
<p>Unless I have it all wrong and you are, in fact, able to read her mind?</p>
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