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		<title>By: john terris</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-534742</link>
		<dc:creator>john terris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While George W Bush is gone from the White House in a flurry of ridicule,  and a deluge of denigratory comment from the likes of Dominion Post Foreign Affairs editorial writer and former diplomatic hack Terence O’Brien, I want to strike an entirely contrary note to the one sounded by the current tidal wave of Obamania in the NZ press.

Setting  aside for a moment the fact that Obama is completely untested in the heat of high-level decision-making and therefore has yet to show us whether he is actually capable of matching the high-falutin’ rhetoric with bold action, let’s instead remind ourselves of a few salient facts about “Dubya” which may show  him to have been a much better president that current polls suggest.

For a start, he is a victim of the Twentyfirst Century ceaseless search for novelty.   People get tired of the same face.   Of all the judgements on him which people have rushed into print with here and elsewhere, there is not one which seems to be aware that it is far too early to make any assessment whatever of his legacy.   It will be at least 10 years before the light of history will shine strongly enough to permit such a thing.

There are some other things that we do know now however.   One is that by taking the War on Terror to Al Qaeda and its allies in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan, he has achieved his principal objective, which was to stop terrorists attacks on American soil.   While the loony leftists and the appeasers rant about the deaths in Iraq, they fail to observe that this week, peaceful provincial elections were held ion that country for the first time, with all the factions taking part.   This was because US trained Iraqi soldiers and police ensured that there was safety in the streets.

Blair and Bush have been vilified by those numerous commentators who actually believe that murderous terrorists like Bin Laden are really only maladjusted and misunderstood and will settle down if given a year’s free subscription to the New York Times.  The truth is that these people are in retreat because of the determination of the Coalition of the Willing to hunt them down and force them to defend themselves instead of allowing them to prey unhindered  on the innocent, as the UN is prone to permit them to do.   While we must accept that there have been far too many civilian deaths in Iraq (mainly Iraqis on Iraqis) since the invasion there, at least Saddam is no longer free to slaughter 400,000 of his own innocent people with mustard gas.   Dictators around the world with the blood of thousands of their own people on their hands are no longer able to sleep as easy in their beds as they once were.   A number of them are now before international courts but only because US and British and other forces have spoken to them in the only language they recognize, that which comes out of the barrel of a gun.

Finally Bush is being blamed for the US financial meltdown when in fact is Bill Clinton who fired up Freddie Mack and Fannie May to issue housing loans to all sorts of people who had no capacity to make repayments.

Bush never flinched from what he believed and I for one (though I am possibly the only person in NZ who does) admire that.   He didn’t falter even when some maniac journalist threw a shoe at him at a Press Conference, which everyone, especially the anti-Bush journos present, reported the next day as a huge laugh.   Would it have been as funny if the shoe had been packed with high explosive and had killed the man at whom it was aimed, and half-a dozen journalists as well? 

Thanks to Bush and Blair, some Western democracies have demonstrated a willingness to stand up the Mad Mullahs, and the world is a safer place for that.

9/2/09</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While George W Bush is gone from the White House in a flurry of ridicule,  and a deluge of denigratory comment from the likes of Dominion Post Foreign Affairs editorial writer and former diplomatic hack Terence O’Brien, I want to strike an entirely contrary note to the one sounded by the current tidal wave of Obamania in the NZ press.</p>
<p>Setting  aside for a moment the fact that Obama is completely untested in the heat of high-level decision-making and therefore has yet to show us whether he is actually capable of matching the high-falutin’ rhetoric with bold action, let’s instead remind ourselves of a few salient facts about “Dubya” which may show  him to have been a much better president that current polls suggest.</p>
<p>For a start, he is a victim of the Twentyfirst Century ceaseless search for novelty.   People get tired of the same face.   Of all the judgements on him which people have rushed into print with here and elsewhere, there is not one which seems to be aware that it is far too early to make any assessment whatever of his legacy.   It will be at least 10 years before the light of history will shine strongly enough to permit such a thing.</p>
<p>There are some other things that we do know now however.   One is that by taking the War on Terror to Al Qaeda and its allies in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan, he has achieved his principal objective, which was to stop terrorists attacks on American soil.   While the loony leftists and the appeasers rant about the deaths in Iraq, they fail to observe that this week, peaceful provincial elections were held ion that country for the first time, with all the factions taking part.   This was because US trained Iraqi soldiers and police ensured that there was safety in the streets.</p>
<p>Blair and Bush have been vilified by those numerous commentators who actually believe that murderous terrorists like Bin Laden are really only maladjusted and misunderstood and will settle down if given a year’s free subscription to the New York Times.  The truth is that these people are in retreat because of the determination of the Coalition of the Willing to hunt them down and force them to defend themselves instead of allowing them to prey unhindered  on the innocent, as the UN is prone to permit them to do.   While we must accept that there have been far too many civilian deaths in Iraq (mainly Iraqis on Iraqis) since the invasion there, at least Saddam is no longer free to slaughter 400,000 of his own innocent people with mustard gas.   Dictators around the world with the blood of thousands of their own people on their hands are no longer able to sleep as easy in their beds as they once were.   A number of them are now before international courts but only because US and British and other forces have spoken to them in the only language they recognize, that which comes out of the barrel of a gun.</p>
<p>Finally Bush is being blamed for the US financial meltdown when in fact is Bill Clinton who fired up Freddie Mack and Fannie May to issue housing loans to all sorts of people who had no capacity to make repayments.</p>
<p>Bush never flinched from what he believed and I for one (though I am possibly the only person in NZ who does) admire that.   He didn’t falter even when some maniac journalist threw a shoe at him at a Press Conference, which everyone, especially the anti-Bush journos present, reported the next day as a huge laugh.   Would it have been as funny if the shoe had been packed with high explosive and had killed the man at whom it was aimed, and half-a dozen journalists as well? </p>
<p>Thanks to Bush and Blair, some Western democracies have demonstrated a willingness to stand up the Mad Mullahs, and the world is a safer place for that.</p>
<p>9/2/09</p>
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		<title>By: enough rope</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-527013</link>
		<dc:creator>enough rope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen McShane: 
&lt;i&gt;You may have noticed too that I said the UK and the US were the first to outlaw it and what made this truly remarkable was that this was at considerable cost to the UK economy at the time.&lt;/i&gt;

Hogwash. As you&#039;re no doubt aware, slavery was only effectively abolished in the US at the conclusion of the Civil War. As for voluntary abolition of slavery being a drain on the British economy, Britain supported the South, and benefited from slavery, as the &quot;Manchester cotton trade&quot; was seen as vital to its economy. If you&#039;d been around then you&#039;d no doubt have been part of the cheer squad.

As for the pernicious influences of &quot;post modernist theory&quot;, if you waste your time reading such nonsense then more fool you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen McShane:<br />
<i>You may have noticed too that I said the UK and the US were the first to outlaw it and what made this truly remarkable was that this was at considerable cost to the UK economy at the time.</i></p>
<p>Hogwash. As you&#8217;re no doubt aware, slavery was only effectively abolished in the US at the conclusion of the Civil War. As for voluntary abolition of slavery being a drain on the British economy, Britain supported the South, and benefited from slavery, as the &#8220;Manchester cotton trade&#8221; was seen as vital to its economy. If you&#8217;d been around then you&#8217;d no doubt have been part of the cheer squad.</p>
<p>As for the pernicious influences of &#8220;post modernist theory&#8221;, if you waste your time reading such nonsense then more fool you.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-526923</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this year the Centre recommended Robert Higgs paper “Regime Uncertainty” which emphasised that while any Government’s natural response to a crisis is “to do something” the necessary ingredient for ending a recession or depression is to remove all possible obstacles to private investment.
This was an important message then and is even more important now.
We should ask every politician, on waking in the morning, to ask not “What can I do for my country?” but to ask “What can I UNDO for my country?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this year the Centre recommended Robert Higgs paper “Regime Uncertainty” which emphasised that while any Government’s natural response to a crisis is “to do something” the necessary ingredient for ending a recession or depression is to remove all possible obstacles to private investment.<br />
This was an important message then and is even more important now.<br />
We should ask every politician, on waking in the morning, to ask not “What can I do for my country?” but to ask “What can I UNDO for my country?”</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough rope.
I am sure most school kids no that slavery existed in the ancient world. The point is that to read most post modernist commentaries you would think that in recent times only the US had slaves and that every where else slavery had disappeared along with the ancient world. You may have noticed too that I said the UK and the US were the first to outlaw it and what made this truly remarkable was that this was at considerable cost to the UK economy at the time. By the time the US outlawed slavery most of the world was still practising it and indeed much of the world is still practising it today. The  UK slave traders were only able to find slaves to ship from Africa to the US because slave trading was so well established throughout Africa.
I wonder how long it will be before France or Germany have a black president or PM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough rope.<br />
I am sure most school kids no that slavery existed in the ancient world. The point is that to read most post modernist commentaries you would think that in recent times only the US had slaves and that every where else slavery had disappeared along with the ancient world. You may have noticed too that I said the UK and the US were the first to outlaw it and what made this truly remarkable was that this was at considerable cost to the UK economy at the time. By the time the US outlawed slavery most of the world was still practising it and indeed much of the world is still practising it today. The  UK slave traders were only able to find slaves to ship from Africa to the US because slave trading was so well established throughout Africa.<br />
I wonder how long it will be before France or Germany have a black president or PM?</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-526803</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Bob Dylan

&quot;Even the President of the United States sometimes stands naked&quot;

I thought he spoke well, but seemed a lot faster than normal?

Time will tell, but in reality he is the front man for team Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Bob Dylan</p>
<p>&#8220;Even the President of the United States sometimes stands naked&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought he spoke well, but seemed a lot faster than normal?</p>
<p>Time will tell, but in reality he is the front man for team Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-526800</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen McShane,

I was wondering what you mean&#039;t, the comment seemed very, well, namby pamby and not you.

I stand corrected!

&gt;&gt;&gt;
Owen McShane (537) Vote:  2   0   Says: 
January 21st, 2009 at 11:56 am 

expat,
“transformational” was in quotes to indicate a certain irony derived from the fact that Obama is something of a walking cliche to whom such terms come naturally and frequently.

However, I have always been interested in the power of images and I am sure that Obama and his friends will be thrilled by a new “aircraft/New York” symbol – complete with New Man Hero – at just the right time. Think of Dame Whina Cooper on that long dusty road. Think of the EarthRise which unfortunately did much to promote the notion that the Earth is a fragile crystal like sphere and hence helped launch a new religion, and so on. 

Inaugarations bring on ephinanies by the hundred – I just wanted to get in first on this one. Let’s see if it catches on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen McShane,</p>
<p>I was wondering what you mean&#8217;t, the comment seemed very, well, namby pamby and not you.</p>
<p>I stand corrected!</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Owen McShane (537) Vote:  2   0   Says:<br />
January 21st, 2009 at 11:56 am </p>
<p>expat,<br />
“transformational” was in quotes to indicate a certain irony derived from the fact that Obama is something of a walking cliche to whom such terms come naturally and frequently.</p>
<p>However, I have always been interested in the power of images and I am sure that Obama and his friends will be thrilled by a new “aircraft/New York” symbol – complete with New Man Hero – at just the right time. Think of Dame Whina Cooper on that long dusty road. Think of the EarthRise which unfortunately did much to promote the notion that the Earth is a fragile crystal like sphere and hence helped launch a new religion, and so on. </p>
<p>Inaugarations bring on ephinanies by the hundred – I just wanted to get in first on this one. Let’s see if it catches on.</p>
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		<title>By: Banana Llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banana Llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure i had flash backs when i watched President Obamas inauguration, you know like a bad acid tab, It was really crazy because all of a sudden I found myself in 1934 surrounded by pomp and regalia.

We will not apologize for our way of life, you know how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure i had flash backs when i watched President Obamas inauguration, you know like a bad acid tab, It was really crazy because all of a sudden I found myself in 1934 surrounded by pomp and regalia.</p>
<p>We will not apologize for our way of life, you know how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: wikiriwhis business</title>
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		<dc:creator>wikiriwhis business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;President Obama is so far shown himself to be the most charismatic and best orator President since Kennedy, now we will see if he can roll up his sleeves and get the “change” he promised implemented.&quot;

Post of the week.

It&#039;s as simple as that.  Heads down , arses up.  

And remember,  Obama has already won against his American enemies. Their tired old has-been mantra; being a bum.

Obama has bummed them out!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;President Obama is so far shown himself to be the most charismatic and best orator President since Kennedy, now we will see if he can roll up his sleeves and get the “change” he promised implemented.&#8221;</p>
<p>Post of the week.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as simple as that.  Heads down , arses up.  </p>
<p>And remember,  Obama has already won against his American enemies. Their tired old has-been mantra; being a bum.</p>
<p>Obama has bummed them out!!</p>
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		<title>By: enough rope</title>
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		<dc:creator>enough rope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I suspect many school children think the US invented slavery. At the time the US practised slavery the whole world did.
The UK and the US happened to be the first nations to outlaw it.&lt;/i&gt;

Weasel words. Most kids I know are are a bloody sight better informed than those you fantasise about, and are well aware that slavery existed in the ancient world. As it happened, Britain had outlawed slavery before the American colonies&#039; declaration of independence. As Dr. Johnson noted at the time of the revolutionary war, &quot;How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suspect many school children think the US invented slavery. At the time the US practised slavery the whole world did.<br />
The UK and the US happened to be the first nations to outlaw it.</i></p>
<p>Weasel words. Most kids I know are are a bloody sight better informed than those you fantasise about, and are well aware that slavery existed in the ancient world. As it happened, Britain had outlawed slavery before the American colonies&#8217; declaration of independence. As Dr. Johnson noted at the time of the revolutionary war, &#8220;How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: calendar girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>calendar girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today was a great day for America and a good man took the oath of office, and we all offer our prayers for his success,” George W Bush said on his arrival home in Texas. 

I accept that Bush wasn&#039;t defeated in an election, but that impresses me as a comment of genuine grace about a political opponent from the departing President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today was a great day for America and a good man took the oath of office, and we all offer our prayers for his success,” George W Bush said on his arrival home in Texas. </p>
<p>I accept that Bush wasn&#8217;t defeated in an election, but that impresses me as a comment of genuine grace about a political opponent from the departing President.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found one of the graphs:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/postmodern-recessions/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found one of the graphs:</p>
<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/postmodern-recessions/" rel="nofollow">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/postmodern-recessions/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly he is already criticising Obama so he can&#039;t be too partisan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly he is already criticising Obama so he can&#8217;t be too partisan.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thrash
Krugman is an ideologue and a very obvious anti-Republican and pro-Democrat partisan and so can always be relied upon to proffer an opinion on Bush and his policies that will be unswervingly unflattering. Check the GDP figures for each quarter post 9/11 - they speak for themselves http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=1&amp;FirstYear=2007&amp;LastYear=2008&amp;Freq=Qtr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thrash<br />
Krugman is an ideologue and a very obvious anti-Republican and pro-Democrat partisan and so can always be relied upon to proffer an opinion on Bush and his policies that will be unswervingly unflattering. Check the GDP figures for each quarter post 9/11 &#8211; they speak for themselves <a href="http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=1&#038;FirstYear=2007&#038;LastYear=2008&#038;Freq=Qtr" rel="nofollow">http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=1&#038;FirstYear=2007&#038;LastYear=2008&#038;Freq=Qtr</a></p>
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		<title>By: OECD rank 22 kiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>OECD rank 22 kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.  

It&#039;s all down hill for Obama from this point on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all down hill for Obama from this point on.</p>
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		<title>By: joeAverage</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeAverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love so called educated posters like mattyroo(chimpanzess in the white house) allways RACIST SHIT.You are a poor little dickless shit  i could say,if i was really mean. OPPS l could have said the dickhead plays with himself(but thats abuse,hes too stupid to do that act)   ,is that the best you can do, wopps the markets gone down,Mr Obama might put one of these RICH share manipulators in prision for a long time , that sort of act makes sharebrokers think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love so called educated posters like mattyroo(chimpanzess in the white house) allways RACIST SHIT.You are a poor little dickless shit  i could say,if i was really mean. OPPS l could have said the dickhead plays with himself(but thats abuse,hes too stupid to do that act)   ,is that the best you can do, wopps the markets gone down,Mr Obama might put one of these RICH share manipulators in prision for a long time , that sort of act makes sharebrokers think</p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-526774</link>
		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bush’s tax cuts saw a post 9/11 sharp contraction recover into economic growth for all quarters of his presidency from then on excepting the last 2).&lt;/i&gt;

Krugman disagrees with this.  Somewhere in his area on the NY Times you can find graphs he produces to show the recovery was far longer than otherwise claimed.  Sorry.  Can&#039;t find them at the moment but its worth looking regardless of whether you agree with him or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bush’s tax cuts saw a post 9/11 sharp contraction recover into economic growth for all quarters of his presidency from then on excepting the last 2).</i></p>
<p>Krugman disagrees with this.  Somewhere in his area on the NY Times you can find graphs he produces to show the recovery was far longer than otherwise claimed.  Sorry.  Can&#8217;t find them at the moment but its worth looking regardless of whether you agree with him or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have at look at this for another big change:

http://www.kottke.org/09/01/the-countrys-new-robotstxt-file</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have at look at this for another big change:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kottke.org/09/01/the-countrys-new-robotstxt-file" rel="nofollow">http://www.kottke.org/09/01/the-countrys-new-robotstxt-file</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thrash Cardiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrash Cardiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a change and an interesting one.  What sort of a signal is this sending?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a change and an interesting one.  What sort of a signal is this sending?</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/01/president_barack_hussein_obama.html#comment-526770</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Rat while Bush was in office, the plunging markets were all his fault. Had the markets risen today the media and people like you would&#039;ve hailed the Messiah&#039;s wand being waved over Wall Street. Now that the markets have fallen of course its just mundane supply and demand issue.

If he governs as the idealogue he clearly is then we&#039;re all in a for a rough ride and a long recession. If he governs as a pragmatist and listens to experienced real world economists who dont have an agenda (ie not following Hoover who turned the post 1929 crash from a recession to a depression by raising taxes and restricting trade) then the economy could recover quite quickly (Reagan&#039;s tax cuts in 1982 saw a quick bounce back from the stagflation of the Carter years and Bush&#039;s tax cuts saw a post 9/11 sharp contraction recover into economic growth for all quarters of his presidency from then on excepting the last 2).

Regardless of ideology, Obama&#039;s inauguration does represent a stunning chapter in US history and closure on the issue of the disconnect between the lofty ideals of the Declaration of Independence and reality of Jim Crow.

Obama&#039;s soaring rhetoric will not solve the problems he must now manage. He can no longer vote &#039;Present&#039; as the proverbial buck stops with him. Islamic fundamentalists will merely switch their anti-American hatred to the new President as he can offer no concession that would ever appease them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Rat while Bush was in office, the plunging markets were all his fault. Had the markets risen today the media and people like you would&#8217;ve hailed the Messiah&#8217;s wand being waved over Wall Street. Now that the markets have fallen of course its just mundane supply and demand issue.</p>
<p>If he governs as the idealogue he clearly is then we&#8217;re all in a for a rough ride and a long recession. If he governs as a pragmatist and listens to experienced real world economists who dont have an agenda (ie not following Hoover who turned the post 1929 crash from a recession to a depression by raising taxes and restricting trade) then the economy could recover quite quickly (Reagan&#8217;s tax cuts in 1982 saw a quick bounce back from the stagflation of the Carter years and Bush&#8217;s tax cuts saw a post 9/11 sharp contraction recover into economic growth for all quarters of his presidency from then on excepting the last 2).</p>
<p>Regardless of ideology, Obama&#8217;s inauguration does represent a stunning chapter in US history and closure on the issue of the disconnect between the lofty ideals of the Declaration of Independence and reality of Jim Crow.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s soaring rhetoric will not solve the problems he must now manage. He can no longer vote &#8216;Present&#8217; as the proverbial buck stops with him. Islamic fundamentalists will merely switch their anti-American hatred to the new President as he can offer no concession that would ever appease them.</p>
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		<title>By: getstaffed</title>
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		<dc:creator>getstaffed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John B - tough call. The 3News showed an Iranian rent-a-mob in Tehran chanting &quot;Death to America. Death to Obama&quot; and burning flags, photo etc. A clue perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John B &#8211; tough call. The 3News showed an Iranian rent-a-mob in Tehran chanting &#8220;Death to America. Death to Obama&#8221; and burning flags, photo etc. A clue perhaps?</p>
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