I am just happy that those children are being given a chance at a decent future. No need to turn it into a political slagging match when we’re helping to save our lost youth.

Even the papers were saying it was a slush fund designed to buy Green support. What is more deserving? Kids getting out of crime and into something that will teach them respect, or keeping your party happy and feeling wanted?

So what you advocate is a continuation of what is already failing our youth criminals….spoken like a true lefite.

And on the subject of the “take out a loan” letter, I think it was great!, beneficiaries should not just be able to rock on down to the local winz office every time they cannot pay the bills, they bloody well should be selling off stuff and taking out a loan to consolidate THEIR debts.

I will only be pissed off with Bennett if she sacks the chap who sent the letter.

rang the banking ombudsman and asked what happened if one breaks the mortgage when the calculation would imply the punter would be owed money by the bank – the bank pays nothing out and gets to pocket the windfall.

Farmer walks free after fatally shooting intruder
10:12AM Tuesday Feb 17, 2009
By Rosaleen Macbrayne

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic … d=10557174

A frightened farmer who shot dead a gang associate when threatened on a remote Eastern Bay of Plenty property has been cleared of murder and manslaughter.

David Allen, 45, said he was acting in self defence when he fired once at Muni Rangi Sam Collier – known as “Boxer” – following a confrontation over a disputed debt.

After deliberating for five hours, the jury of seven men and five women in the High Court at Hamilton accepted his defence, also ruling out manslaughter.

Mr Allen managed an isolated 607 hectare forest and cattle farm in the Takaputahi Valley, off Motu Road about 40km southeast of Opotiki, for the overseas owner.

Described by neighbours as a hard worker, he lived alone in a woolshed.

The house he was to occupy burned down the night before he was due to move in. The cause of the fire is unknown.

During the trial it was revealed that two weeks before the fatal shooting, Mr Allen had been brutally beaten with a fence post by two men who arrived on horseback demanding money.

Mr Allen, who suffered extensive head and facial injuries, spent several days in Whakatane Hospital.

After that, he put locks on the woolshed and told his boss he just wanted to go back to work.

The court heard that Mr Collier, 35, left his Opotiki home at 2.35am on September 15, 2007, to find Mr Allen, who allegedly owed Mr Collier’s gang of workers money for tree pruning.

Evidence was given that he had traces of methamphetamine and cannabis in his bloodstream when he died.

Mr Collier arrived shortly after 7am demanding $1000.

When the money was not forthcoming and he was locked out of the woolshed, the intruder threatened to kill Mr Allen, the accused later told a police interviewer.

Mr Allen also said Mr Collier was a Mongrel Mob associate and that gang members frequently used stand-over tactics to intimidate farmers in the area.

Unable to escape because his vehicle was not driveable, Mr Allen got his rifle, loaded it and watched from the landing as the visitor got into his car.

The accused shot the other man from 3.5 metres away when he saw him lean over for what could have been a weapon.

The 303 gauge bullet penetrated Mr Collier’s upper right arm, went through the chest and out the side, fatally injuring his heart and lungs.

Mr Allen then rang 111, saying he was the victim of a home invasion and had shot and killed a man in self defence.

He told police in a videotaped interview that he did not know if Mr Collier had a gun and was not prepared to take the risk.

“Look what happened last time. Was I meant to stand there and let it happen again?”

Police found no weapons at the scene which could be linked to the dead man, the court heard.

Crown prosecutor Rob Ronayne submitted that Mr Allen intended to murder Mr Collier when he shot him in the upper body.

His actions were deliberate, calculated and vengeful. They were motivated by anger and by hatred of Mr Collier’s race and perceived gang connections.

Defence counsel Paul Mabey QC said there was no dispute that Mr Allen had killed the man, but it was in self defence.

After Mr Allen walked free from court with his delighted mother, Mr Mabey said his client wanted some time with family members to enjoy his freedom after a lengthy time in custody.

Mr Allen would not be returning to Takaputahi, where he had managed the isolated forestry block for 18 months.

“He knows he cannot go back to the valley. He doesn’t want to. He just wants to get another job and get on with his life peacefully,” the lawyer said.

“Mr Allen has committed no offence. In this case, a jury has accepted that the killing was in self defence.”

Mr Mabey added: “People are entitled to the security of their own homes and they are entitled to defend themselves against attack.”

..would you like some lead with that lippy..?

http://whoar.co.nz/2009/roses-are-redlipstick-still-has-lead/

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http://whoar.co.nz/2009/eastern-europe-is-about-to-blow/

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Labour were going to send 3 billion a year to russia as a reward for having nuclear power!

In the vain hope that you might answer a question I ask you this.

What would YOU do then to stop youth crime? the lefts approach is clearly not working and I applaud Key for trying something else.

Or are you (as I suspect) against the idea simply because it is being proposed by Key and the Nat’s?

I phoned them, she said it was because the tickets already sold out. Their online system does not hold seats after you have selected them – they are only held after entering credit card details.

It was a bit of a scam sale in my opinion. When all the weekends sold out after one minute.

There must have only been a few $1 seats on each flight – she was of course able to offer full price seats on the sold out weekends.

Think about that for a minute, Japan, China and the other Asian countries will bow, be polite (after all she is a Shelia) and nod vigorously when H Clinton speaks, as soon as she gets back on the plane they will go back to doing sweet fuck all about it.

I really think you overrate H Clinton’s influence.

He caught conservativism. Next he’ll be out getting a job and bathing every day.

One more of us, one less of them.

The point remains Greenfly, you did not think that 35 million was a lot of money when the LEFT were in power did you.

Indeed, your lot thought that wasting 1 billion here and there was not a big deal at all.