Key’s answer was “if we need to spend it we will”, Henry pushed for an amount and eventually Key admitted he would spend “a few hundred thousand” of MY FUCKING TAX DOLLARS getting this corrupt idiot a job at the UN.

Klark has stolen enough money from me over the last 15 years, she has no right to expect me and all the other tax payers in NZ to spend our money getting her a bloody job.

Unless National take a view, that to look stringently at the know misdemeanors of the previous administration, then they will set the Culture for abuses going forward.

Sleaze will become the accepted Norm, and the Franchise does not deserve to see the elected representatives behaving shabbily without consequences.

But better the devil you know etc etc. I doubt Clark would be any WORSE in the job than any other appointee.

While I dont have direct personal experience of the UN, I do of the World Bank/IMF and a couple of others and they are full of country-appointed sinecures.

Part of the UNDP’s work is developing “democratic governance”, so Herr Helen is clearly unqualified for the job and should immediately make it clear that she’s declining the candidacy.

Sending Helen to the UN makes the French exports of nuclear waste look pretty tame.

http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/nz-govt-supports-helen-clark-for-united-nations-role/

February 8th, 2009 at 5:08 am
“I believe that she should have to account for her overt corruption in league with Winston Peters.

Arrest, Inquiry, and Court please.”

Although I think the UN and Klark are well suited to each other, I also believe that National must pursue and prosecute those that are guilty of corruption or illegal practises under the Labour government. If not National will be seen to be in the politians club of nil accountability and just as bad as the other lot and any trust they have gained from the public will dissappear

There are Horse Racing Circuits, and Boxing Rings all over the world.

Scampi and Fish Quotas to monitor.

I could go on all Night.

This paragraph alone is a sound case for consxiracy .

(Tried not to get demerited for spelling a profane word in its fullness on this site)

Anyway, why not HEC for UN? She would probably do a great job, raise NZ’s international profile at a diplomatic level and remove Labours prime motivator.

It’s win win really, yah?!

I see Lyn “black helicopter, moon landing denier conspiracy theorist” Prentice at the substandard is bigging up his close personal contact with Helen (aka I text’d to confirm the UN position, twat) and suggesting that the Waitangi Fracas was just a ‘Nact’ media setup.

LOL.

Labour (and I include the sysop dweeb in that group) just hate being irrelevant.

If he supports his new best friend forever, Helen Clark, then will lose political support and votes in 2011.

If he doesn’t support Helen Clark’s pursuit of a new job then he will have done the right thing and shown a depth of character he has so far failured to demostrate.

Still, you have to admire a man who chooses to piss off his core supporters and go through a recession with all of Labour’s failed economic policies intact and then expect to get re-elected in 2011.

Clark definitely lost her mojo post 2005. Brash’s post Orewa speech poll surge (that barring 15,000 Polynesian voters in South Auckland almost got him the premiership) spooked H1 and H2 and it led to a series of poll driven flip flops. Clark relied on ruthless internal discipline and a water carrying media to cover her butt. Her unprescedented access to a chosen few became a tool she used relentlessly to peddle Labour’s line to good effect and the absence of any substantive right wing media equivalent as exists in the US and UK helped her immensely. She was undone by her failure to truly understand middle NZ families and what drives them because she isn’t from that class – her world was filled with chardonnay sipping, late drinking university lecturer uber liberals and childless gays who were nurtured in the radical feminist and anti-war movements of the 60′s and 70′s. Her true inner circle, the people whom she really trusted, were fellow travellers who could not see how a law banning smacking would be so unpopular or how her nanny state interventions would hasten the turning of the worm. Her failure to deal with Field, Pope and Peters was more a case of of avoiding MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) as the latter two had enough dirt on Helen to really make her life more miserable than what her inner circle perceived to be the short term poll hits they would take by not dealing with them as ruthlessly as she’d dealt with previous Cabinet miscreants.

The one that really baffled me was the pledge card and that was as much Cullen’s hubris as Clark’s – a sense of entitlement and the age old socialist internal voice in their heads that tells them that their cause is so righteous that normal rules can be broken to keep the hated tories out.

As for the UN – well she would be like a pig in mud there. If she isn’t appointed they will appoint another similarly compromised Statist, anti-family, anti-Israel radical socialist feminist person in her place who will do no more or less damage than Clark would do. Whilst part of me would not wish her the chauffeur driven limos, the constant first class travel and the wise older statesman chats with a syncophantic local media on her visits to NZ, the other part says kick her upstairs and out of NZ so that we can all draw a line under her premiership.

We should content ourselves that her defeat has limited the heights she might reach on the international stage – imagine her status had she won a 4th term and chosen to resign the leadership on a high note sometime in mid 2010.

Arrest, Inquiry, and Court please.

Savage, they must be very good drugs. Why do you bother appearing on here to post such obvious garbage?

Helen promised to get NZ into what part of the OECD league table, and where did we end up? So is that better or worse, and how does that relate to growing an economy in the most benign commercial conditions in living memory.

Yes, the economy grew like every other developed countries. Despite her Election promises NZ slipped down the table. Or do you no understand basic maths Micky Take?

The way she treated Dr Brash was disgusting i.e. the airing of his affair and her nasty comments….

The image of Clark & Cullen ‘haw ‘haw’ laughing @ Brash got my political blood boiling like no other.

So for those reasons I don’t support her.

In terms of being a good globalist, the social engineering she did counts for a great deal, they pay a lot of attention to that. Also her adherence to the climate change religion is critical. As I said at the time it was being passed under urgency before she lost, the ETS legislation wasn’t good for the nation but it was good for her chances at a job like this.

So in the region she’s probably got Rudd and most of the Islands. She’s probably also got China, that counts for a lot since it has regional influence too – all through SE Asia. She’s probably got Brown too – through her close Blair connection. Maybe that’s partly why she went to visit Marion in the UK after she lost. That also counts for a lot.

She may or may not have the US, but I think knowing her she would have done the numbers and would not have allowed the campaign to begin if she didn’t have a plan for dealing with them, even if they didn’t come on board.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she will try to sew India up by trading on Lange’s connections there. That leaves Europe, Central Asia, Africa and the ME. Blair will help her with Europe, especially if he becomes EU President.

Hmmm.

Personally I don’t mind at all if she gets this or some other UN job. What else is she going to do – she’s too young to retire and even her enemies have to admit she’s a formidable talent. She does have the right skill set although I agree with DPF that her judgement deserted her in the last term. I wonder if it was because a critical someone she relied on, left or became unavailable to help her. How else do you explain it? If the good judgement she displayed in the first two terms was entirely her own, then she still would have had it in her to make at least a few good decisions – instead almost every critical political decision she made was bad and to many of us this was obvious at the time it was made and this is not just a 20/20 hindsight critique.

So, who could that someone be? Obviously, not H2. Obviously not anyone on her staff. One person who could have been her close adviser in those first two terms, was Blair or alternatively, some strategic player in the UK political structure who had the time and the skills to give her the advice during those terms. She modeled Liarbore on New Labour. Blair and her were and are great mates. They were very close, indeed. He could have easily either done it himself, or put her in touch with the same people who helped him to develop his New Labour policies and that would not be at all unusual. Such a person would obviously be a political appointment not a govt one, and that would explain why they had to leave when Blair left and were therefore unavailable during most of the third term.

I know it’s a theory, but if you want to argue that it’s b.s. which it may well be, then come up with a better one.

Correction: grew the government. Not the same thing.

“made New Zealand a fairer and more tolerant place”

Ha! Where is the tolerance from Helen Clark, Labour (and the Greens) for those who choose tungsten light bulbs over mercury light bulbs? Where is the tolerance for those who don’t believe in global warming, those who are Exclusive Brethren, those who vote for National or ACT, those who disagreed with Labour’s decisions on Pledge Card funding from taxpayer funds, those who attend Destiny Church, those who opposed the Electoral Finance Act…?

“Intolerance” is a accusation made by one group against people they can’t tolerate.

and tried to reduce domestic violence by stopping parents brutalising their kids. And she created jobs, grew the economy and made New Zealand a fairer and more tolerant place.

An unusually strong batch tonight mickey? Don’t get behind the wheel there’s a good lad.