Comments on: Herald on RMA reform

By: greenfly

greenfly — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:08:56 +0000

side show bob – progress? Resource management. Doesn’t really sound like a device designed to screw evil rich pricks, does it? Resource managment – sounds kinda …reasonable!

By: side show bob

side show bob — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:53:04 +0000

Of course it hasn’t happened greenfly, why put a stop to a good little earner. Shit everyone knows your lot are always short of cash, the RMA and socialism were made for each other. Yeah baby screw those evil rich pricks and progress.

By: greenfly

greenfly — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:54:32 +0000

Do you! You are very trusting! Let’s say that farmer keeps pigs, thousands of pigs that smell to the high heavens with and odour that permeates the very fabric of your being (your clothes, your kitchen, your bedroom, whatever.) No objections? Better still, such a farmer proposes to set up such a piggery. Keeping mum, are you?

By: greenfly

greenfly — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:40:53 +0000

side show bob – if, by chance, some appalling development is begun in your neighbourhood and you find you didn’t know it was coming and anyway couldn’t afford to speak up against it, you’ll know what I meant. Btw. my ‘mates’ (I take it you mean the Greens) didn’t produce the RMA as it stands (warts and all) but it seems to me that it isn’t regarded as ‘a total balls up’ even by the overheated Right. Were that the case, it would surely have been recinded (without the need for input from the public or those superfluous ‘select committees’ either). I see that that hasn’t happened.
DPF – but I do think that you have the right to have your say when an interested party wants to affect changes to the environment you live in – your outlook, your place of recreation; river, lake, field, forest etc. I expect you’d be annoyed if some organisation or other decided to ‘develop’ the delightful landscapes you recently delighted in walking through. No?

[DPF: As far as I know I will still have rights to object to changes to lakes or rivers I frequent. But I don't think I have a right to object to what say a farmer does in his field]

By: side show bob

side show bob — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:20:49 +0000

Yeah greenfly, I’m all for individual rights but I didn’t know the right to extort, blackmail or bully was included as individual rights. Time to move on greenfly you and your mates have had their chance and it’s being a total balls up.

By: greenfly

greenfly — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:47:22 +0000

Hooray for the reform of the RMA! No longer will the country be burdened by individuals exercising their rights …. hang on ….???

[DPF: With limited exceptions, most of us don't think you have a right to object to what I do on my property, unless it affects you. You may think you have such a right, but you don't. The right if for people to manage their own properties]

By: s.russell

s.russell — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:37:51 +0000

Hooray for reform of the RMA! While the RMA is generally a great good, its greatest flaw has been the capacity for delaying and bogging things down. Cutting that back is a great move.

By: Bryan Spondre

Bryan Spondre — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:22:16 +0000

Inviting the Maori Party onto the treasury benches was a stroke of genius on Key’s part. It gave him the flexibility to ignore Act if necessary, has broken Labours hold on the Maori Party vote and was a significant slap to the Lefts arrogance, and most importantly will see the Maori Party decline like all minor parties do in coalition.

It will indeed be disturbing if flaky beliefs including those of Maori groups are used to extract benefits using the RMA.

By: PhilBest

PhilBest — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:59:34 +0000

Herald: “……Notably absent is a proposal to remove references to the Treaty of Waitangi and Maori cultural and spiritual values. It was part of National’s election manifesto but has fallen foul of the new relationship with the Maori Party. Now, somewhat lamely, the Government says the dropping of the Treaty clause has been rendered unnecessary by case law and improved practices…..”

DPF: “……Welcome to MMP. The jury will be out on this issue, until we see some cases under the revised law. If projects still face significant delays because of arguments over the “life-force” of a river, I won’t be too impressed…..”

HEAR, HEAR, DPF. I mean, we are meant to have moved on from the era of soft-headed superstitions and all that, eh…? At least where Christianity is concerned…….? It is inconsistent to bend over backwards to accomodate totally insupportable superstitions from other cultures and indeed from new age Gaia environmentalism.

By: Adolf Fiinkensein

Adolf Fiinkensein — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:36:44 +0000

And welcome to ‘Pak n Save’ in Glenfield. I see the building is being painted yellow as we speak.

By: Redbaiter

Redbaiter — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:13:29 +0000

“Welcome to MMP.”

Except that Key did not have to invite the Maori Party onto the government benches.