Labour back to being anti tax cuts
February 28th, 2009 at 10:41 am by David FarrarThe Herald reports:
Labour leader Phil Goff has offered his party’s support to the Government should it change its stance on tax cuts.
Well that’s a good reason not to change. But nice to see Labour is back to its tax and spend policies.
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February 28th, 2009 at 10:47 am
“nice to see Labour is back to its tax and spend policies”
Yeah, except they never really went away.
Labour’s tax cuts were just smoke and mirrors.
There is no way any of those leftist parasites like Goff will be happy until they’ve got their greedy lazy thieving clutches on every dollar earned by the productive.
Then they use it to live the high life (nomenklatura) while they waste that stolen money on idiotic troglodytic ideas and buying the votes of losers.
Until it all collapses in a heap.
Ask those who remember living in the Soviet Union.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
There he goes again. Leaping about and flapping his wings like some demented seagull and squawking “look at me, look at me; I’m still here, can somebody please talk to me.”
And on the subject of seagulls, has anyone else noticed the remarkable similarities between Phil-in and his odious little band of social misfits and crooks, and the the seagulls that always descend on the no 2 ground after the game has finished, while everyone else has headed off to the other side of the park so see the main game being played on no 1?
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 11:07 am
If Labour had won the election I can just see the smug look on Cullen’s face as he announced the reversal of last years tax cuts, no doubt he would have inceased them for the middle classes as punishment for voting against Labour.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 11:13 am
I must say, I thought Phool Goof was brighter than that. But he just has to revert to the socialist style “tax and spend” that has typified Labour, especially over the past nine years.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
The Goff leadership of Labour is one of Key’s greatest assets in these troubled times. The more Goff fumbles through the very policies that got us in the shit, the bigger the hole he is digging for Labour. The 25% hard core support left for Labour will not put up with his incompetence much longer. His end will be swift and brutal.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
What a weird statement.
Labour realise they aren’t coming from a position of power right?
Why would National want their support anyway? Best to have them over the other side of the house and irrelevant.
Do Labour want to become National lite? :O
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I guess Phil In decided his 3.9% popularity was spiking too soon so hes decided to knock a few points off.
Has anyone mentioned to labour that its not actually the job of the oposition to run the country? They seem to have mislaid their job description.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I suppose Clark was right to pick “It’s a matter of trust” as an election theme.
It sure was – No one trusted Labour to deliver any tax cuts
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
What I really fucking detest is the idea that somehow tax cuts are a “gift” by the State to the individual.
They are not.
They simply reduce the amount they steal by a small percentage.
It’s like being the victim of repeat burglaries, and returning home to find that you have once again been robbed, but this time they left your iPod alone, and then the burglar turning up on national television expecting your thanks for not stealing it.
I need to start working on getting Swiss residency….
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Those labour c**ts just can’t handle the workers getting to keep a bit more of what we earn. If they had their way we would all be underclass sucking on the teat. The teat would pretty soon run dry. Goff is an idiot, long may he reign.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Who gives a fat rat’s fart what philin thinks?. Obviously the stupid bloody Herald does. Maybe times are tough for the old herald, are they going for the rag tabloid look and reporting on any bit of dribble they can scrap up?.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
‘I need to start working on getting Swiss residency….’
Looked at that very closely indeed.
Had advice from two areas.
The Swiss economy is about to get the same test as the UK.
The Cantons are also under real pressure as a backlash from the indigenous.
Who wants to live with plastic Germans anyway?
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
In the current economic climate the tax cuts need to be put on hold.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Labour is the first cab off the rank to increase taxes. Good old Labour Party. They just do not like private consumption.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Do you have a better suggestion Glut? Seriously, if you do, I’m all ears.
I’d appreciate any advice you have.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
hand yours back any time you want he-man. Just dont speak for my money
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Goff and Labour are an irrelevance going nowhere looking for a lifeline called tax and spend as the messiah like answer to their nightmare that the country has figured out that they have nothing to offer.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
So now we know conclusively that labour would have (once again) cancelled the tax cuts if they had been restored to power. And only a few months after the election.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Reality check
The unions and the businessmen have said that to get through the current recession quite a few workers will have to go to 9 day fortnights. If the workers lose wages then the economy will take a hit, if the employers have to pay for it then some may go out of business.
The only sector left is the Government.
Maybe they should cancel the proposed tax cuts. These will not have the desired effect in any event, all that will happen is that the rich will either save or squander the money on overseas goods or holidays …
So Key should get really brave and cancel the tax cuts. Left wingers such as Rob Fyfe and Fran O’Sullivan have advocated for this.
Key is actually moving towards this decision.
How does that make all the inhabitants of wingnut land feel?
[DPF: You have just said that if workers lose wages, the economy takes a hit, and then you advocate that all workers should have their take home pay reduced]
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Are you drunk mickysillysausage? That dribble was a large size crapaloa supreme.
Unleash billy borker micky.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Do you have a better suggestion Glut? Seriously, if you do, I’m all ears.
I’d appreciate any advice you have.
There are a few places that will be possibly secure.
Andorra, Gibraltar, Jersey, IOM, Caymans, Panama etc.
This current crisis will shake the western and eastern administrations looking for off shore money.
Luxembourg has just been shaken down by the Germans.
As has Leichenstien.
San Marino, and Monaco remain the best bet. But Effin expensive to gain access.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
>>Christopher (210) Vote: 11 1 Says:
>> February 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
>> I need to start working on getting Swiss residency….
UBS is very interlinked with the enture Swiss economy -> the Swiss are fucked. Unless the haul out a load of Nazi gold no-one knows about.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Jersey & IOM are well within HM Revenue & Customs grasp.
The Swiss are reamed.
Panama? Central America? Hmmm
Andorra is supposed to be OK.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Thnaks for the update Expat.
Andorra is also fighting off EU intervention.
Give it no more than 5 years before it becomes a ski resor, and spa town.
The western governments are desperate for cash.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Didn’t know that. But if its the EU then if it happens in 5 years it would be a miracle. Surely 5 years would only allow one time to prepare a scope brief.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
The play is underway, and has been for 10 years.
When you sit in the long line of cars for cheap petrol on either side of the border, then you realise how much revenue the French, and Spanish governments are losing.
The French side is the busiest.
Not long now!
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I’ll ask someone who lives there and let you know what they think or know.
Vote:February 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Paradigm – precisely.
We always knew their hand was being forced when they matched National’s policy and its not like they didn’t know the financial state we were in – they had inside knowledge. What was their election slogan again? Something about trust?
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 4:59 am
Just as well the electorate gave Labour and Helen Clark the shaft on 8 November 2008. A great day.
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 7:52 am
Goff makes another silly suggestion that shows his (and Labour’s) aversion to tax cuts.
By the way, am I alone in thinking how pathetic his performance is as new Labour leader? So far, he’s done nothing but utter studity after stupidity. His yelling/screaming in Parliament is not only sad, but laughable.
About time the socialists dump him and replace with the arrogant Cunliffe, whom, at least, will provide us with more entertainment.
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 11:31 am
It sends a cold shiver down my spine just thinking about how we all might be, if Labour was still in power. What also sends a cold shiver down my spine is the 1000 odd people leaving monthly for Oz, and the impact this is having on the tax take and the economy.
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Christopher, you want lower taxes and a generally better and most certainly interesting/exciting standard of living?
You should come to Central/Eastern Europe mate. Flat taxes, stunning women and the beer is superb. The locals have their priorities as well, the PC revolution hasn’t hit these shores!
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
mickeysavage … last year we were obliged to consider what you said as you reflected the views of those who held the levers of power.
Now you represent nothing, nothing at all and the country is the better for that by far.
So you, sonic, ratbiter et al can rabbit on about anything and everything as long as you like and I dismiss it as the mouthings of a losers loser.
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Nice one Ross… hear hear!
Vote:March 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pm
When this government stops throwing billions of taxpayers dollars into DPB and other welfare abuse,
Vote:and when this government stops throwing billions of taxpayer dollars into the ridiculous maori treaty industry and other PC bullshit
– if and when they have done that – and are still short of dosh…… then they can talk to me about continuing to rob me of my high taxes
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Christopher is spot on. That money is not the Governments. It is ours. The less they get the better it will be for everyone. The Government is a large bureacratic elephant and need to be shot.
Vote:March 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I’d just like to say
WHAT TAX CUTS?
in fact with the increase ACC levy most of us are going to have less in our pockets.
Current PAYE rates and thresholds:
Income thresholds Rates
Income to $14,000 12.5%
$14,001 – $40,000 21%
$40,001 – $70,000 33%
$70,001 and over 39%
New rates and thresholds from 1 April 2009:
Income thresholds Rates
Income to $14,000 12.5%
$14,001 – $48,000 21%
$48,001 – $70,000 33%
$70,001 and over 38%
I should be fair if you earn between 24000 and 48000 you will get an extra $10 a week with their IETC.
And if you make over 70000 you will get a whole 1% cut on your earnings over that threshhold.
So far as I’m concernedI will be about 30cents a week worse off than I am now. I know that’s not going to make any real difference but I don’t get what the big fuss about tax cuts is, when they don’t even seem to be happening, well not really for most of us……
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