Samoan PM attacks Bainimarama

February 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

AAP reports:

Tuilaepa Sailele, prime minister of , has launched an unprecedented attack on his Fijian counterpart, , claiming the military man has no plans to relinquish the leadership.

“I strongly believe that Bainimarama has no intention of relinquishing power and returning to democratic government,” Tuilaepa told the New Zealand Fairfax newspapers on Tuesday.

“Therefore, that’s a clear indication that Bainimarama has no intention whatsoever of holding general elections and returning his country to democratic rule.”

He also said the commodore was “stealing public money” by appointing himself as finance minister and paying himself F$200,000 (NZ$213,000) in unclaimed leave.

The Samoan leader mocked Bainimarama’s “ridiculous” full military garb and the need for an army, saying “perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati,” its closest neighbours.

Wow, that is pretty stinging.

I have considerable sympathy for the purported goaals of the Commodore – a non racial constitution, a census, democratic elections. However the problem is he does indeed seem to have no intention of ever holding elections. If he wants sanctions to be lfited, he needs to spell out a time-frame and commit to it.

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20 Responses to “Samoan PM attacks Bainimarama”

  1. Mike S (229 comments) says:

    I too have sympathy for his stated aims – in some ways he reminds me a bit of Ataturk – trying to drag his country kicking and screaming into the modern world.

    But his techniques and self-aggrandisement I cannot support.

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  2. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    While as in individual Bainimarama is nothing like Mugabe, it seemed a bit like he was as immune to criticism from his neighbours as Mugabe – good to see one of them having a go!

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  3. wreck1080 (3,924 comments) says:

    While Bainimarama may have had good initial intentions, he should watch spiderman.

    Power corrupts. It really does, nothing could be more true. And, the more time that passes the more he will be corrupted.

    But, I suspect Bainimarama might not be the brightest nut on the planet judging from his language. So, Fiji could be in real trouble.

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  4. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    Since when have we ever known Pacfic Islanders to “spell out a timeframe and commit to it”?

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  5. goodgod (1,348 comments) says:

    perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati,” its closest neighbours.

    So would I if I was a pacific leader. That’s how it’s been done since maui was knee high to a sea turtle. I think this means samoa plans to invade! To the beaches, Bananamarama!

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  6. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    Besides, putting my sensible hat on again (it’s the tweed one) isn’t Fiji’s military a major source of income and prestige with peacekeeping deployments etc?

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  7. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati,” its closest neighbours.

    Not inconceivable actually. Rising sea levels caused by the climate change induced melting of polar ice could see both Tuvalu and Kiribati end up underwater. Fiji is an obvious place for climate change refugees from those island countries to go.

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  8. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    If the Pacific is rising why aren’t we going under? I checked my graphic mappy picture of te planet thing and it turns out WE’RE in the Pacific OMG!!!!

    I’ve also go the full interview with Banarama that was played on TVNZ7 the other night in which he explains there was no coups and appointing his brother in law head of the military was not nepotism and he needed a job anyway having just gotten out of jail for man lsaughter.

    Intentions aside its time to stop supporting this megalomaniac.

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  9. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Right On Murray Bananrama is a cartoon chararcter straight out of the bad old days. He needs a gunboat up the river to fire a shot across his bow.

    fact is the PIs are hopeless when it comes to governing themselves And pleasssssssse dont resort to that horary old chestnut about different cultural values.

    Theft is theft nepotisim is nepotisim in every culture and every language.

    they need to to be dragged into the world of good governance Not that NZ or any other country is that shit hot at it

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  10. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Toad>Fiji is an obvious place for climate change refugees from those island countries to go.

    Even if we accept that the Earth is warming, and that the warming will raise sea levels more than a trivial amount…

    Why would Fiji be an obvious place for refugees to go to? Rather than move to a small island nation without a strong economy, surely it’d be better to resettle them somewhere like NZ, Australia, or any other developed country? Tuvalu and Kiribati citizens are more likely to have family in Auckland than in Fiji. You don’t honestly think that climate change “refugees” are going to jump on a raft as the sea level rises around them, and wash up on the nearest available dry land?

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  11. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Murray > If the Pacific is rising why aren’t we going under? I checked my graphic mappy picture of te planet thing and it turns out WE’RE in the Pacific OMG!!!!

    Hadn’t you noticed that waterfront property is so worthless these days that you can’t even give it away.

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  12. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    davidp said: You don’t honestly think that climate change “refugees” are going to jump on a raft as the sea level rises around them, and wash up on the nearest available dry land?

    Of course you are right. My comment was meant to be (like Sailele’s original reference) somewhat tongue in cheek. In my case it was just an excuse to wind up the climate change deniers – you obviously missed that.

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  13. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    “the purported goals of the Commodore – a non racial constitution, a census, democratic elections”

    All talk. By his DEEDS shall ye know him…. and all he has done so far is taken control, given himself a pay rise, and had dissenters beaten up or expelled.

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  14. Christopher (425 comments) says:

    In my case it was just an excuse to wind up the climate change deniers – you obviously missed that.

    Still using the label “deniers” as if we’re denying some grand truth, eh fucktard?

    Let me spell it out for you, you filthy fucking retard: science does not support your position, it supports mine. You are supported by propaganda only.

    I don’t think there’s a person in New Zealand who knows more about climate change than I do, and I’m a skeptic.

    So fuck you.

    [DPF: And that is 20 demerits]

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  15. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    Christopher: “Let me spell it out for you, you filthy fucking retard”

    Boo ref! That used to be 20 demerits when I did it!

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  16. Christopher (425 comments) says:

    Boo ref! That used to be 20 demerits when I did it!

    Fair comment.

    Withdraw and apologise.

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  17. Patrick Starr (3,674 comments) says:

    “ridiculous” full military garb and the need for an army, saying perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati,”

    well there again Bainimarama may just fear a visit from the Samoan descended Salt and Brown families

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  18. Stuart Mackey (337 comments) says:

    # gd (1940) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
    February 25th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Right On Murray Bananrama is a cartoon chararcter straight out of the bad old days. He needs a gunboat up the river to fire a shot across his bow.

    fact is the PIs are hopeless when it comes to governing themselves And pleasssssssse dont resort to that horary old chestnut about different cultural values.

    snip

    Not that NZ can do anything about it, a situation we (both major parties) have done to ourselves, although Aussie might be able to by 2015 when their big new Canberra class ambhibs come online and they have a couple of extra regular battalions stood up.

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  19. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Fiji is such a dated issue. New Zealand is in a deep recession and that’s where all the political focus should be.

    Good on ya Christopher.

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  20. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Jesus Chris take the hit, when you’re right you’re right.

    The bread ad is right, too bloody soft.

    And OECD what the hell is this oh its so last week crap? what are you 12. An issue that needs to be addressed does not “go away” simply becuase other things happen.

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