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		<title>By: angela67</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-540315</link>
		<dc:creator>angela67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Far As i am concerned it should Not  have been in the public eye.And Anyway the  public dont know  the truth . But  any Abuse is unexitable, and it does not matter who it is.  And they will be judged. People need to keep out of it. I wish Tony Vietch all the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Far As i am concerned it should Not  have been in the public eye.And Anyway the  public dont know  the truth . But  any Abuse is unexitable, and it does not matter who it is.  And they will be judged. People need to keep out of it. I wish Tony Vietch all the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist1</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-534007</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheist1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB &quot;Fuck Vietch, he is a woman basher and as far as I am concerned they are just one stop up on the slime ladder from child abusers&quot;

Totally Big Bruv. What a creep this guy is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB &#8220;Fuck Vietch, he is a woman basher and as far as I am concerned they are just one stop up on the slime ladder from child abusers&#8221;</p>
<p>Totally Big Bruv. What a creep this guy is.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533929</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 02:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself in agreement with Billyborkers first posting. Justice has been too long delayed and the man needs to face a trial speedily. In the meantime he is trying to work for a living and I for one can certainly understand that.

We do need a shakeup of the justice system-maybe Night Court or some such innovation. It is not fair to the accused to have him hanging out to dry for another year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself in agreement with Billyborkers first posting. Justice has been too long delayed and the man needs to face a trial speedily. In the meantime he is trying to work for a living and I for one can certainly understand that.</p>
<p>We do need a shakeup of the justice system-maybe Night Court or some such innovation. It is not fair to the accused to have him hanging out to dry for another year.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533903</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me, missed the edit , I do find it rather UNUSUAL . Oh to be a TV celebrity said the cell block.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me, missed the edit , I do find it rather UNUSUAL . Oh to be a TV celebrity said the cell block.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533895</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tinman, and the negative karma club, fyi all I was trying to point out was I do find it rather usual that somebody with seven alleged  charges of male assaults female will not face trial this year, because I know many sitting out in Paparoa Prison on police remand for alleged similar offenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tinman, and the negative karma club, fyi all I was trying to point out was I do find it rather usual that somebody with seven alleged  charges of male assaults female will not face trial this year, because I know many sitting out in Paparoa Prison on police remand for alleged similar offenses?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533893</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the community who promote freedom of choice? - If Veitch is to be unpopular then the ratings will decide his fate. 

I dont condone what he did but the punishment must fit the crime - the magnitude of his punishment so far is way beyond what even Sensible sentencing would lobby for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the community who promote freedom of choice? &#8211; If Veitch is to be unpopular then the ratings will decide his fate. </p>
<p>I dont condone what he did but the punishment must fit the crime &#8211; the magnitude of his punishment so far is way beyond what even Sensible sentencing would lobby for</p>
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		<title>By: MT_Tinman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533885</link>
		<dc:creator>MT_Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veitch has, from memory, publicly admitted the acts if not the crime.

He stood down from his broadcasting commitments rather than fight to stay.

It seems to me that the situation is as much his fault as anyones but unlike (very D4J) Big Bruv I won&#039;t condemn him without knowing the full story.

I don&#039;t like the prick but neither do I watch or listen to Deaker so if Veitch is prepared to front on Deaker&#039;s TV abortion good on him.

It won&#039;t offend me simply because I won&#039;t see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veitch has, from memory, publicly admitted the acts if not the crime.</p>
<p>He stood down from his broadcasting commitments rather than fight to stay.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the situation is as much his fault as anyones but unlike (very D4J) Big Bruv I won&#8217;t condemn him without knowing the full story.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the prick but neither do I watch or listen to Deaker so if Veitch is prepared to front on Deaker&#8217;s TV abortion good on him.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t offend me simply because I won&#8217;t see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533877</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earsling.

How very true.

The Police just love to make things simple.

The media love a witchhunt.

This is probably not the case, but what if there are extenuating circumstances?

What if the lady, (Not sure this label is entirely appropriate) has made things very blurred by her own drug fuelled abuse and violence?

What if there turns out to be a very good case for Veitch to have brought his own charges?

The whole thing is very messy, but the Public Court of opinion is very fickle.

I actually hope that in Court the balance of gender is towards women. They can smell a falsehood from miles away.

Everyone goes very nervous when the very idea of women being spiteful, abusive and extremely violent is ever mentioned.

Well here in the soon to be bankrupt country, female offending against other women and men, and multiple persons has gone off the Richter Scale.

I don&#039;t know Veitch, and I don&#039;t think I want to. Just give him the benefit of the doubt.

If he is indeed guilty, he deserves the time. If she is majorly contributory, then she should also do time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earsling.</p>
<p>How very true.</p>
<p>The Police just love to make things simple.</p>
<p>The media love a witchhunt.</p>
<p>This is probably not the case, but what if there are extenuating circumstances?</p>
<p>What if the lady, (Not sure this label is entirely appropriate) has made things very blurred by her own drug fuelled abuse and violence?</p>
<p>What if there turns out to be a very good case for Veitch to have brought his own charges?</p>
<p>The whole thing is very messy, but the Public Court of opinion is very fickle.</p>
<p>I actually hope that in Court the balance of gender is towards women. They can smell a falsehood from miles away.</p>
<p>Everyone goes very nervous when the very idea of women being spiteful, abusive and extremely violent is ever mentioned.</p>
<p>Well here in the soon to be bankrupt country, female offending against other women and men, and multiple persons has gone off the Richter Scale.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Veitch, and I don&#8217;t think I want to. Just give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>If he is indeed guilty, he deserves the time. If she is majorly contributory, then she should also do time.</p>
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		<title>By: Earsling</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533869</link>
		<dc:creator>Earsling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the real issue with Tony Veitch is that our broken &quot;justice&quot;  system is completely stuffed. Veitch,along with innumerable other people has little chance of getting a fair trial for the simple reason that after two or three years the likelihood of Crown witness recall of events even approaching any acceptable accuracy would be pretty marginal.That anyone at all should have to wait more than 3 to 6 months for their day in court is bloody outrageous and certainly should,in my opinion,after 12 months as a maximum,lead to all charges being dropped.What are the police and the rest of the sloth-like prosecution staff think they are up to? Veitch at the moment,is no more guilty of any offense than we are,indeed should he finally be be acquitted of the charges that he&#039;s currently facing,if there was any justice where plainly there is not,he should be free to sue the Sunday Rags,the Police and his previous employers for everything they have down to their last pint of blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the real issue with Tony Veitch is that our broken &#8220;justice&#8221;  system is completely stuffed. Veitch,along with innumerable other people has little chance of getting a fair trial for the simple reason that after two or three years the likelihood of Crown witness recall of events even approaching any acceptable accuracy would be pretty marginal.That anyone at all should have to wait more than 3 to 6 months for their day in court is bloody outrageous and certainly should,in my opinion,after 12 months as a maximum,lead to all charges being dropped.What are the police and the rest of the sloth-like prosecution staff think they are up to? Veitch at the moment,is no more guilty of any offense than we are,indeed should he finally be be acquitted of the charges that he&#8217;s currently facing,if there was any justice where plainly there is not,he should be free to sue the Sunday Rags,the Police and his previous employers for everything they have down to their last pint of blood.</p>
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		<title>By: peterquixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterquixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>feels ok to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>feels ok to me</p>
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		<title>By: kaykaybee</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533864</link>
		<dc:creator>kaykaybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I will be voting with my remote and giving Veitch a wide berth. 

What sort of a message does this send to community at large that a man charged with such a heinous crime is given public exposure and by extension sanction? Why would anyone canvas the opinion of a self-confessed, yet excuse-ridden woman beater? Why would anyone value the judgment of anyone on a panel who has made at least two publicly recorded attempts at suicide?

A travesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I will be voting with my remote and giving Veitch a wide berth. </p>
<p>What sort of a message does this send to community at large that a man charged with such a heinous crime is given public exposure and by extension sanction? Why would anyone canvas the opinion of a self-confessed, yet excuse-ridden woman beater? Why would anyone value the judgment of anyone on a panel who has made at least two publicly recorded attempts at suicide?</p>
<p>A travesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Eisenhower</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533863</link>
		<dc:creator>Eisenhower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;billyborker Says: 

February 15th, 2009 at 10:10 am 
“…would you be happy to see Chris Kahui front a TV show?”

Why not? He was tried, the evidence tested and found not guilty. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean like OJ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>billyborker Says: </p>
<p>February 15th, 2009 at 10:10 am<br />
“…would you be happy to see Chris Kahui front a TV show?”</p>
<p>Why not? He was tried, the evidence tested and found not guilty. </p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like OJ?</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533856</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still fail to see why the CPS would push out this case til 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still fail to see why the CPS would push out this case til 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Glutaemus Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/veitch_back_on_tv.html#comment-533853</link>
		<dc:creator>Glutaemus Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very uncomfortable with the notion that all men are bashers, and all women are sweetness and light.

Drugs seem central to the awful domestic violence. perhaps alcohol as well.

This tragic case is simply not clear cut.

There should have been a much faster appearence in Court.

Defence lawyers are unlikely to be able to prevaricate. It is CPS that drives the agenda timing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very uncomfortable with the notion that all men are bashers, and all women are sweetness and light.</p>
<p>Drugs seem central to the awful domestic violence. perhaps alcohol as well.</p>
<p>This tragic case is simply not clear cut.</p>
<p>There should have been a much faster appearence in Court.</p>
<p>Defence lawyers are unlikely to be able to prevaricate. It is CPS that drives the agenda timing.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people here are getting a little confused.

1. There is no way Veitch&#039;s lawyers would be delaying the trial. They would want it tomorrow if they could get it. The delay is due to a completely dysfunctional justice system.

2. Veitch is innocent until proven guilty. That does not bar anyone from forming their own conclusions as to his guilt. All it means is that he cannot be punished by any state entity until he has been found guilty by a jury of his &#039;peers&#039;. This does not preclude you from preaching his guilt wherever you want (in the absence of a court order to the contrary, and with libel proceedings in mind), or calling him nasty names. Do whatever you like (within the bounds of the law).

3. Having decided point (2) above, your choice regarding Veitch being re-employed on TV will be a simple one: Either watch the shows he is involved with, or don&#039;t. Like any good capitalist, vote with your feet.

4. The Kahui case and the Veitch case are not at all comparable, except in the most abstract and legalistic way. The brutal murder of an innocent baby by a soulless monster and his evil clan is a far cry from some domestic violence which was all settled up by voluntary compensation. Even if Kahui has been found not guilty, we all know the truth and are entitled to treat him with the contempt he deserves. Same deal with Veitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people here are getting a little confused.</p>
<p>1. There is no way Veitch&#8217;s lawyers would be delaying the trial. They would want it tomorrow if they could get it. The delay is due to a completely dysfunctional justice system.</p>
<p>2. Veitch is innocent until proven guilty. That does not bar anyone from forming their own conclusions as to his guilt. All it means is that he cannot be punished by any state entity until he has been found guilty by a jury of his &#8216;peers&#8217;. This does not preclude you from preaching his guilt wherever you want (in the absence of a court order to the contrary, and with libel proceedings in mind), or calling him nasty names. Do whatever you like (within the bounds of the law).</p>
<p>3. Having decided point (2) above, your choice regarding Veitch being re-employed on TV will be a simple one: Either watch the shows he is involved with, or don&#8217;t. Like any good capitalist, vote with your feet.</p>
<p>4. The Kahui case and the Veitch case are not at all comparable, except in the most abstract and legalistic way. The brutal murder of an innocent baby by a soulless monster and his evil clan is a far cry from some domestic violence which was all settled up by voluntary compensation. Even if Kahui has been found not guilty, we all know the truth and are entitled to treat him with the contempt he deserves. Same deal with Veitch.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwipolemicist</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwipolemicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a private matter between Veitch and Dunne-Powell: the state should butt out and mind its own business.

http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/tony-veitch-should-not-be-prosecuted-for-assaulting-his-ex-partner/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a private matter between Veitch and Dunne-Powell: the state should butt out and mind its own business.</p>
<p><a href="http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/tony-veitch-should-not-be-prosecuted-for-assaulting-his-ex-partner/" rel="nofollow">http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/tony-veitch-should-not-be-prosecuted-for-assaulting-his-ex-partner/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nz capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>nz capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Kahui?!?!  ...are you serious? ...even a cursory glance at the evidence against him begs the question &quot;who the f**k was that supposed to fool?!?!&quot;

Kahui&#039;s Jury took 10 minutes to find him not guilty (after listening to the Crown present the biggest load of old cobblers they had ever heard)...because they thought it polite to wait 9 minutes and 52 seconds after reaching their verdict before returning to the Courtroom.

Yes, I would be delighted to see a television programme with Mr Kahui in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Kahui?!?!  &#8230;are you serious? &#8230;even a cursory glance at the evidence against him begs the question &#8220;who the f**k was that supposed to fool?!?!&#8221;</p>
<p>Kahui&#8217;s Jury took 10 minutes to find him not guilty (after listening to the Crown present the biggest load of old cobblers they had ever heard)&#8230;because they thought it polite to wait 9 minutes and 52 seconds after reaching their verdict before returning to the Courtroom.</p>
<p>Yes, I would be delighted to see a television programme with Mr Kahui in it.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bork? Where for art thou Bork?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bork? Where for art thou Bork?</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or deal in cocaine and ectasy, get caught and not prosecuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or deal in cocaine and ectasy, get caught and not prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
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		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on guys, we know he will not be locked up, people involved with sport in NZ (here read Rugby or League) NEVER get locked up unless there is absolutely no other option, they can bash their spouses, drag their pregnant partner down the street by her hair, assault innocent people in pubs just because &quot;he looked at my Mrs&quot; or bash and rob a taxi driver and the legal system will excuse them.

Before you jump all over me for being anti rugby I have to say that I love the game (I will admit to detesting League with a passion as it is a game for morons) but I have to say that while I do love Rugby I do not have a lot of time for the people who play or run the game.</description>
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<p>Before you jump all over me for being anti rugby I have to say that I love the game (I will admit to detesting League with a passion as it is a game for morons) but I have to say that while I do love Rugby I do not have a lot of time for the people who play or run the game.</p>
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