Vernon Small says Cullen to quit soon

February 25th, 2009 at 8:53 am by David Farrar

seems to have an exclusive at Stuff:

Former finance minister is expected to quit politics in the next two months. …

But party sources said Dr Cullen’s departure was imminent, and would certainly be before the May 28 Budget.

Former Tasman-West Coast MP Damien O’Connor is next on Labour’s list and would be first in line to take Dr Cullen’s seat.

Miss Clark’s resignation would trigger a by-election in Mt Albert. List MP Phil Twyford is seen as the front-runner to be Labour’s candidate. Next in line to replace him would be former Auckland Central MP Judith Tizard.

Everyone assumes Damien will accept the list spot. I certainly think he will. I do wonder if anyone has actually asked him?

There may be one small complication for Damien. The Taito Philip Field trial is in April I think. Now I don’t know if Damien will be a witness, but it is possible. And there could be some embarrassing stuff come out on two fronts. The first is why Damien approved such a massively high proportion of requests from Field. The second is his insistence he was not warned about what Field was doing, despite numerous warnings sent to his office.So Labour may want to delay Cullen going until after the trial.

Judith Tizard returning, would be of course wonderful. Every party in Parliament has edged away from her daft s92A law. But wonderfully Judith was on radio yesterday giving it her full support.

At some stage I’ll write the “eulogy” for Michael Cullen – probably when he does announce his resignation. The term “flawed genius” is what most comes to mind as the theme.

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74 Responses to “Vernon Small says Cullen to quit soon”

  1. homepaddock (408 comments) says:

    ““flawed genius” – we’ve been paying for the flaws through stunted growth under his stewardship and we’ll pay more as the recession bites.

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  2. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    “next in line to replace him would be former Auckland Central MP Judith Tizard.”

    Whaaaaahahahaha, oh yeah bring that on the woman who lost Auckland central to a school girl.

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  3. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    DPF said: Judith Tizard returning, would be of course wonderful.

    Oh dear, surely not. Why can’t John Key, in the spirit of cross-party cooperation, make her High Commissioner to Zimbabwe or something – I hear she’s still unemployed, and suspect that has much more to do with her competence than the downturn in the job market.

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  4. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    There we go, JT is the kiss of death across the board.

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  5. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    So that’s it then.

    After the outrageous degree of damage this academic know nothing has done to the economic situation of every New Zealander, he just quits and that’s it.

    I have the same feeling as I do with Helen Klark’s departure.

    These zealots just walk away, with a ridiculously expensive superannuation deal they voted themselves, and escape all responsibility for the damage they have inflicted upon the social fabric of this country.

    It just does not seem right.

    (“flawed genius”..??? Here’s what comes to my mind- “Demented and destructive envy driven little commie weasel”)

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  6. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    There IS a god after all !

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  7. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Gone with a whimper is still gone Red. Thats good enough for me.

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  8. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    “the term “flawed genius” is what most comes to mind as the theme”

    Really?, my theme would be something like “complete and utter wanker”

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  9. coventry (321 comments) says:

    Michael Who ?

    Reminds me of that old Madness song ‘Yesterdays Men’.

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  10. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Murray said: There we go, JT is the kiss of death across the board.

    Oh, by the way, she and I were in the same history classes at university and she was just as much a lazy non-performer then as now – hardly ever turning up to lectures and when she did it was to ask for extensions for the essays she hadn’t got around to writing.

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  11. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    “Oh, by the way, she and I were in the same history classes at university and she was just as much a lazy non-performer then as now”

    Jeez….you really ARE an old bugger :)

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  12. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    So noted toad.

    bb whats your point regarding those of us with experience? Don’t make me chase you in my mobility scooter.

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  13. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    My old dog, now 127 YO (in human years) and bind and deaf would have made a fist of being Finance Minister during perhaps the best years we ever experienced. Huge budget surpluses matched by poor quality spending. What a legacy.

    No, my vote in the Stuff Poll was solely to recognise his masterly knowledge of Parliamentary procedure.

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  14. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    I believe that with the benefit of hindsight Michael Cullen will be rated as one of the country’s best finance ministers. He had the right instincts and did what he believed in even though it was not universally popular. The paying off of Government debt, the setting up of the Cullen fund and Kiwisaver mean that the country is in a much better position to weather the oncoming turmoil and to pay superannuation to the baby boomers.

    Unfortunately for some success is measured in the effects that occur within the electoral cycle and not by what happens in oncoming decades…

    [DPF: Quite the opposite. NZSF and KiwiSaver were huge commitments made on a false belief of permament surpluses.]

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  15. Brownie () says:

    Gotta agree with DPF on this one re “flawed genius”.

    MC is a fellow old boy of my old school and I went to hear him speak at a school function where he was the guest of honour. He spoke to old boys, staff and the pupils and it was both amazing and more than a little sad to almost physically see the malice drip from his mouth like rabid spittle while he proceeded to masacre in words the school that gave him his education and rail against his perceived iniquities in the social makeup of New Zealand.

    Granted Christs College has a reputation for elitism and as being a breeding ground for the traditional National voter. It’s pupils have traditionally been sons of high country farmers and the southern “landed gentry”, however the level of malevolence and barely concealed contempt that was exibited that day, really put me off the bugger.

    It was a great snapshot of a man, who was given an opportunity for a first-class education, who must be walking in circles given the size of the chip on his shoulder (good thing that the beehive is concentric in nature, I guess).

    To rant, as he did in front of 13 year old boys, was both immature and more than a little worrying at the time.

    I won’t be sad to see him go from the New Zealand political landscape when he does. If he is at all representative of the level of maturity and well balanced reason in the Labour Party, I feel sorry for the boys over at the Standard, who I don’t think realize just how bitter that man is.

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  16. virtualmark (1,523 comments) says:

    DPF … surely you meant to write “mean-spirited and vindictive flawed genius”?

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  17. Brownie () says:

    “Unfortunately for some success is measured in the effects that occur within the electoral cycle and not by what happens in oncoming decades…”

    Fair point, MS but as I probably gave away with my post above, I don’t think that that will happen.

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  18. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    big bruv said: Jeez….you really ARE an old bugger

    She’s a couple of years older than me bruv – she was only studying part-time, and maybe had to re-sit some papers as well.

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  19. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    You mean should have been “minister for Auckland” AND been a student at the same time without eating into the latte time?

    Starting to make sense now.

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  20. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    If the man had been a lot less vindictive (“rich prick”, “we won, you lost, eat that”) He would have been remembered better. To me he will always be the man who squandered the best opportunity this country had ever had.

    Kiwisaver and the super fund seem necessary, but they do seem to be mutually exclusive. We are now in the position of having to borrow to fund the retirement of the baby boomers who have not funded their own, while having to save to fund our own retirement? I do understand that the fault for this does not lie exclusively with Cullen but with the partisan politics that have befallen this issue over decades. Cullen has continued this in his time in the job.

    and do not get me started on Kiwirail!

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  21. virtualmark (1,523 comments) says:

    You’ve got to think that if the next few cabs off the Labour list rank are Damien O’Connor and Judith Tizard then that’s a clear signal that Labour isn’t going to be able to rejuvenate itself to put up a strong contest in the 2011 elections.

    Sure, the Nats could still stuff things up and *lose* the 2011 election. But it’s hard to see Labour getting into a position where they’d *win* it. So you’d have to think John Key and Bill English have at least 6 years in the Beehive.

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  22. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    Good point slightly, has there ever been a more selfish generation than the baby boomers?

    The bastards had 3% state advances loans, tax payer subsidised family benefits, free this, cheap that and all the buggers do is moan.

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  23. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    mickysavage said “I believe that with the benefit of hindsight Michael Cullen will be rated as one of the country’s best finance ministers. He had the right instincts and did what he believed in even though it was not universally popular. The paying off of Government debt, the setting up of the Cullen fund and Kiwisaver mean that the country is in a much better position to weather the oncoming turmoil and to pay superannuation to the baby boomers.”

    You would, of course, say that micky. I think Rod Emmerson had a better take on it last year:

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2009/02/cullens-legacy.html

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  24. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    “Flawed Genius”?

    Michael Basset said it: of the personnel of the brilliant Lange Cabinet of the 1980’s, Michael Cullen was the LAST person you would have picked to be Finance Minister of NZ one day.

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  25. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Michael Muppet Cullen – NZ’s first retrospectively validated finance minister.

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  26. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    Brownie … your point re Christ’s College is well made. If you refer to MC’s maiden speech in Parliament you see the comment (and I paraphase) “I ripped off the high country farmers whose generosity made it possible for me to go to Christ’s and now in Parliamant I propose to do the same thing again”.

    Seems to me there was a pair of shoulders designed to be a permanent resting place for for a ‘chip’ and it didn’t get any better.

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  27. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    It is incredible just how much wilful ignorance and blind malevolence marks all the flawed geniuses of the Left, from the Bolsheviks to Castro and Guevara to Pol Pot, to the Chris Trotters and the Russell Normans and the Michael Cullens of our own world.

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  28. jacob van hartog (300 comments) says:

    Michael Cullen , the only Finance Minister to Reduce the government debt, some here have described it as poor quality spending. Other spending was a necessity after the previous National government had a ‘ decade of deficits’.

    Lucky then we didnt follow the Irish/Icelandic model of prolifigate borrowing to fund tax cuts and a consumption led boom, there would have been no debt paid off, no money salted away for the future. EAT THAT

    Brash would be the NZ Pol Pot PB

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  29. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Cullen lectured me when I attended Otago University.
    I have forgotten what the subject was as the paper was a bit of a filler. What I do remember was the chip on both shoulders and that he was a smart arse of biblical proportions.
    I suspect that his dislike of Christs was occasioned by it’s pupils insitutional dislike of smart arses and the inevitable lord of the flies type outcomes.
    I read Bassets book an Lange recently. It is quite plain that he doesn’t like Cullen (or Clark for that matter)

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  30. jacob van hartog (300 comments) says:

    Alex, Cullen was a lecturer in Economic history. Well suited for the role I would say

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  31. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    I agree jacob – after his tenure, economically, we are history :-)

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  32. CraigM (694 comments) says:

    “flawed genius”

    I agree with the first word. He may be intelligent academically but a genius, I think not.

    IMHO his ideology had more influence of policy than his intelligence. He certainly did things that were financially questionable because of shear bloody minded socialism.

    Cap that off with unbound arrogance and a nasty demenour towards anyone who disagreed with him and you have nothing close to a flawed genius, just a flawed human like the rest of us, only with a higher profile. Even that has disappeared quickly and without trace.

    As Finance Minister I said good riddance. As an ineffective and invisible list MP, I would have to say the same. Another career of wasted space at taxpayers expense.

    I want my money back.

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  33. Captain Crab (351 comments) says:

    How is the investigation going into whether Cullen breached the Public Finance Act?
    It would be most amusing to see him charged and that smug smile wiped off his useless face.

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  34. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Ah yes, so he was.
    Like I said the paper he taught was a filler so I don’t remember much about it.
    Another thing I remember is that he basically gave us the questions to the EOY exam. As far as I was concerned that meant he wasn’t confident about his teaching ability or the quality of his course.
    Well said I2

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  35. georgebolwing (845 comments) says:

    jacob van hartog: already the revisionism starts.

    Gross Soverign Issued Debt peaked at 64.4% of GDP in 1992. It was DOWN to 35.6% of GDP in 1999. So it was actually Bill Birch who was the first New Zealand Finance Minister to reduce debt.

    And let’s be honest: it was Ruth Richardson who turned the Crown’s accounts from chronic structural deficits towards surplus. the first surplus was recorded, however, after she had ceased to be Finance Minister.

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  36. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    I keep hearing about Cullen being such a wit. In just about any other environment other than Parliament if he tried to act that way he would get punched in the face. He is a weedy small-minded socialist who is jealous of people who managed to make something of their lives without being beholden to the state. He got hold of power and stuffed it up.

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  37. Lawrence Hakiwai (119 comments) says:

    Now I have to think kind thoughts about Michael Cullen? That’s going to be a bit tougher than burying the hatchet with Helen.

    Maybe after I chant a few dozen times “he no longer has any power and can’t hurt the economy any more”.

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  38. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out Mickey. :lol:

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  39. jacob van hartog (300 comments) says:

    Richardson was sacked , lets not be revisionist about that. maybe she was too brutal or was it that Brieleys didnt get their law changes approved by her but did under her sucessor.

    Any proof bolwing ?. Cullen actually paid down actual debt, you know billions rather than some play on %

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  40. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    Richardson spent her term as finance minister trying to save the ecnomony from the last Labour train-wreck. Probably why I get this feeling of deja-vu now.

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  41. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    Brian Smaller

    I also hear Cullen often described as a “wit”, sadly the phrase “wit” is usually preceded by the word “fuck”

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  42. Inventory2 (10,337 comments) says:

    An example of Cullen’s wit:

    “We won, you lost; eat that!”

    jacob and micky – follow the good doctor’s advice, and bugger off; leave us righties to celebrate!

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  43. jacob van hartog (300 comments) says:

    Englishs wit could go on the back of an envelope, one that says 20% of the party vote. In this game the voters are king.
    labour won three in row while English blew his very first one and yet had to be prised out of the job when Dons winning slogan was No Brash No cash.
    And Now English has to remind his Key of some basic economics, such as lemon socialism wont work

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  44. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    Can’t wait to see the back of this nasty, pompous, supercilious prat.

    The legacy of his ideological rampage through our economy will be evident in NZ for a generation, and confirmed every time the likes of mickeysavage or JVH get behind their keyboards.

    IV2: Remember this Emmerson cartoon. So true, so true …

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  45. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    I have to acknowledge the fact that Cullen did make me laugh once or twice, so he did indeed have wit. However he is not a genius. He is brain damaged. In the same way that all leftists zealots are, whereby they’re perceptions are always in conflict with reality.

    Too few people take the time to just sit down and reflect for a while on how much better off the world would be if we could have escaped the influence of the people who think like Cullen. He subscribes to an ideology that is putrid and decayed, and while it has existed across the west, has been a massive impediment to the development of a civilised and productive world.

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  46. Right of way is Way of Right (1,122 comments) says:

    Oh I wish I was a rich prick, I’d enjoy this so much more!!

    Big Wednesday tonight anyone?

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  47. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “whereby *their* perceptions are always in conflict with reality. ”

    Before some piffling leftist twit has an orgasm.

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  48. georgebolwing (845 comments) says:

    Fiscal time series is available at the Treasury website: http://www.treasury.govt.nz/government/data/fiscaltimeseries-1972-2008.xls

    Table below shows my calculation of GSID in millions of nominal dollars for each year since 1994:

    1994 47873
    1995 46145
    1996 43663
    1997 38968
    1998 40594
    1999 38715
    2000 37527
    2001 38130
    2002 38492
    2003 39327
    2004 37720
    2005 37728
    2006 40004
    2007 41898
    2008 46110

    Using this data, of course, shows that in dollar terms, the amount of debt INCREASED under Cullen.

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  49. slijmbal (1,236 comments) says:

    Cullen’s legacy …….

    Train set – overpriced, run down and requiring major investment – already valued down by $250m in just 6 months

    Super Fund – how on earth does one justify removing the equivalent of about 13% of a year’s GDP out of the economy when there is debt still to be paid down and then make a return less than Treasury bonds – the superfund was never reasonable economic sense

    Kiwisaver – tax incentives do not increase savings – repeat after me – tax incentives do not increase savings – overcomplicated, and a disguised extra tax on employers

    ACC – increased exposure to future costs via relaxing the criteria and underfunded to support the increased exposure (and then lied about it)

    Huge tax take increase wasted on civil masters and bureaucratic, self serving, idealistic nonsense – we are talking tens of billions of dollars

    Working for Families – lets take money off people, piss some of it away and then give it back in such a manner to provide a disincentive to increasing take home pay because of the effective tax rates it causes

    The list goes on – that twit probably cost the average NZer about $30K each

    The one decent economic thing that springs to mind that happened under labour’s watch was the Kiwibank (and that was Anderton’s baby) because it brought some competition in to our banking oligarchy

    If you measure people by what they did rather than what they said I reckon Cullen will be seen as possibly the biggest liar or most incompetent treasurer we have seen in a long, long while …..

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  50. Brabus (31 comments) says:

    jacob van hartog: Any proof bolwing ?. Cullen actually paid down actual debt, you know billions rather than some play on %

    Lets make it nice and easy there are three ways to move debt from 64.4% to 35.6% of GDP
    1. Repay the billions
    2. Substantially grow GDP
    3. A mix of both 1 & 2

    Which one of these options proves your previous point?

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  51. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    CraigM suggests:

    IMHO his ideology had more influence of policy than his intelligence. He certainly did things that were financially questionable because of shear bloody minded socialism.

    I agree completely. I had the opportunity to interview Cullen at various stages of his career including fairly early in his career when he’d just been appointed Minister of Social Welfare (so it must have been round 1987). At that time the chip on the shoulder wasn’t nearly as evident and I came away impressed by his intelligence to an extent I was with few of his peers. He’s also capable of quite pointed, funny, wit and I recall being impressed by a few of his rejoinders.

    All of which makes it more inexcusable that he should allow class hatred, bittterness and ideological blindness to dictate his decision making as Finance Minster. Those are the tools to which the stupid and slow-witted may resort, having nothing else. For an intelligent man to do so suggests a major character flaw – one for which we’re all now paying the price.

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  52. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    What a sad sad little man Cullen is That he was able to rape burn and pillage the economy to the extent he did just shows how flawed our governance system really is.

    Those who worked hard paid their taxes and saved what they could have been dealt to by this thieveing arsehole in the worst manner in the countries history

    Future generations will look back and ask how could they have so stupid to have elected a person whose agenda was so against the hard working and so for his own self interest

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  53. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    One of the few people I would apply the “C” word to.

    The last 9 years will go down as the decade of wasted opportunities for New Zealand (yes I know there are 10 years in a decade).

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  54. lofty (1,310 comments) says:

    I was going to post a negative comment, but no need.
    It has all been said.

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  55. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    As I posted on the “Helen for UN” blog, the only thing Clark, Cullen and most of the Labour MP’s from the previous government deserve is a prison cell. They could keep the poodle company. Not a labour govt cell, a national govt cell where punishment is actually punishment.

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  56. Manolo (13,746 comments) says:

    I’m of the opinion history will judge Cullen very harshly.

    He squandered almost a whole decade of opportunities for New Zealand, choosing instead to pursue his socialist dream of wealth redistribution. His tenure as minister of Finance has been a disaster for our country.

    Good riddance.

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  57. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    One has to wonder if Jacob van Hartog is really some sort of wind up doll which, when burped, repeats the same mantra over and over and over again …. Labour Good, National Bad, eat that.

    A boring, pathetic piece of junk.

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  58. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    Don’t worry about history judging Kullen harshly Manolo, the current “aint” got that high an opinion of the little prick either.

    And on that topic, when Klark and Kullen do leave the house I hope John Key makes the same silent statement that Klark did when Dr Brash gave his valedictory speech.

    For those of you who forgot….the nasty piece of shit made a point of standing up and walking out of the house just as Brash began to speak.

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  59. baxter (893 comments) says:

    “At some stage I’ll write the “eulogy” for Michael Cullen – probably when he does announce his resignation. The term “flawed genius” is what most comes to mind as the theme.”

    machiavellian treachery would be a more accurate theme.

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  60. bwakile (757 comments) says:

    We should just celebrate every departure.
    One less ideological nutcase that we never have to listen to again.
    He was always yesterday’s man stuck in an ideological time warp. Socialism failed last century.
    But he should be facing criminal charges rather than an easy life sucking on the superannuation tit.

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  61. metcalph (1,430 comments) says:

    On the subject of his comment in his maiden speech about ripping off the farmers for his education at Christ College – there was a news article in the press a few months ago (but not online) on which he regretted the comment saying that he had made it under great tension and in response to an interjection from Paul East.

    That said, he was still too smart for his own good.

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  62. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    I find it incredible that anyone who was alleged to have studied economic history, could have drawn the sort of political beliefs out of it that Mikhael Kullensky did. I would very much like to know WHAT he studied OF economic history. Many people who have got doctorates have spent their entire academic careers focused on some specialty that they have a fascination for, and have no idea at all of the big picture or the real world.

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  63. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    metcalph

    So Cullen seeks to blame somebody else for his unfortunate and nasty outburst……..

    Seems to me Cullen is simply exhibiting one of the classic socialist traits in that they ALWAYS blame other people.

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  64. Paul Marsden (998 comments) says:

    Whatever good points Cullen may have as a person, it’s his legacy to NZ that I hold him in gross contempt for. To squander all those years of prosperity in pursuit of some twisted, and distorted failed ideaology, is just gut-wretching. So many lost opportunities to make this country great, where slaughted by Cullen on the alter of yesterday. Figurativley speaking, I hope this arrogant little commie, dies a death of a thousand cuts.

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  65. metcalph (1,430 comments) says:

    One curious thing about Michael Cullen – in Lange’s time, he was the only person in cabinet to put up any heated opposition to Roger Douglas’s plans. Despite this he never bothered to form an alliance with David Lange who was also known to have misgivings about Roger Dougkas,

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  66. jackp (668 comments) says:

    Mickysavage, when you know that the books are in the red and will be for some time, why would you go out and buy a 600 plus million dollar train set when it was worth only 1/6th of that not to mention the cost of maintaining it and building it up. . . The cullen fund has lost over 2 billion in one year. His arrogance was superceded only by his stupidity.

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  67. lofty (1,310 comments) says:

    Bugger it… I can not help myself, good riddance to the mealy mouthed little weasel, he and Ms clark sold MY labour party down the river, I will never forgive any of the last labour govt members.
    Greenfly, toad, redbaiter, Jacob von cigar, and all the rest of you bastards with your sanctimonious bullshit can go and get yourselves back to the standard, who no one reads.
    Words escape me, I have walked this p[lanet for over 1/2 a century, and I have never seen such calculated liars and mechanics of politics, the apologists for the last “government” should be ashamed.
    Oh yeah that includes you MS. I cannot write it in full, in deference to the poor old fella, who’s name you shame.

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  68. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    Geez lofty… your conversion is complete!

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  69. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    Michael Cullen shows his true colours to be that of a COWARD.

    He wants to extricate himself from parliament before Bill English stands up in the house and delivers his first budget. Would rickprickpoor Mickey feel embarrassed at his diminished status? Oh what fun if Helen Clark doesn’t get her dream job and is left to take the heat in the house for Labours last nine years of economic failure.

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  70. Gerinimo75 (9 comments) says:

    Yes, he is/was a nasty sarcastic little prick, not unlike so many posters here. Led by an agenda driven, corrupt to the core HC, perhaps he was doing what Auntie Helen ordered ! Very few pollies of any party, rise above shoelace height in integrity stakes, JK looks squeaky clean at present, give him 6 yrs and his image will be as bad as most. It seems to go with the parliamentary territory, enter clean (seemingly) depart dirty.
    And we are to blame! We put up with a corrupt electoral system, we re-elect known incompetents, we allow unelected party hacks (list candidates) to dictate through their votes, and impose laws that are demonstrably unwanted, we allow candidates to stand both in an electorate and as a list, and we fail miserably to demand accountability from all in authority. So, we bloody deserve the shit we end up in. Don’t blame the pollies for the mess they leave NZ in, because we have failed to demand absolute honesty and integrity from all in authority, we, the incredibly politically illiterate NZ electorate, are to blame. IMHO anyway !@

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  71. clintheine (1,570 comments) says:

    Cullen is a rare creature…. a finance minister who NOBODY in the private sector or overseas company/UN wants near them.

    Good finance ministers are highly sought after…so what is Cullen doing?

    Not even any letters postmarked from Harare/Pyongyang…. makes you wonder how bad he was.

    The same man who on election year authorised the expenditure to nationalise NZ Rail when Labour were behind by over 20 points in the polls – and putting forward spending proposals so to guarantee that future finance ministers would be unable to perform their jobs. Cullen left the economy in worse shape than we did when Labour last fucked it up.

    Jacob, answer that, as well as everything else you have been asked here or STFU.

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  72. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    metcalph

    “with David Lange who was also known to have misgivings about Roger Dougkas,”

    Do not be taken in by Lange’s attempt to rewrite history, in the early days of the first Lange government Lange and Douglas were extremely close, the “misgivings” only came about because Lange let himself be derailed by pillow talk.

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  73. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    You said it, Big Bruv.

    NZ joins the list of countries stuffed up by an ambitious mistress, including some historically famous occasions in France, England, and Russia.

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  74. big bruv (13,884 comments) says:

    I see the bitter and twisted fiscal fool is still going to get his hands on tax payer money, the Dom Post are reporting that Kullen has been appointed iwi negotiator for Tuwharetoa.

    “Former Treaty negotiations minister Michael Cullen is set to jump the fence and become a negotiator for central North Island iwi Tuwharetoa when he leaves Parliament.

    Labour sources yesterday confirmed Dr Cullen would quit before the May 28 Budget, as reported by The Dominion Post on Wednesday, to take up the role.

    Dr Cullen will bring intimate knowledge to the job from his former rolesas deputy prime minister and finance minister, as well as Treaty negotiations minister.

    After the so-called “Treelords” settlement over central North Island forests last year, Dr Cullen credited Tuwharetoa paramount chief Tumu te Heuheu for bringing the iwi together to cut the $400 million deal that had eluded the Crown and Maori for more than 20 years.

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