Why would the wise and fair NZ public do that to such worthy parties as Act and National?

Because they like to be poor. It’s been dreams come true time for the last nine years.

Its not RIGHT to defend free trade with China regardless of the fact that they disregard human and animal rights.

Don’t know if you noticed, Melanie but a lot of regulars here didn’t defend the FTA with China, for various reasons.

That’s what makes this the most popular blog in NZ.

Granted, people here tend to stay away from one dimensional perspectives based on sentiment alone and I for one applaud that, because discussing the real world is a lot more interesting to me than discussing warm fuzzies that everyone has, but which at the end of the day add nothing to the collective understanding, precisely because everyone except for sociopaths has these feelings, so why bother basing an argument on them let alone even mentioning them?

If a joke like Brian was making above bothers you then I don’t know why. You don’t think he was actually doing it, do you? You don’t think you’re a kinder more humane person than Brian because you got offended by a joke he made, do you? If you do truly believe either of those things then I suggest you might want to look at the way you view the world and ask yourself whether you’re actually taking an appropriate stance because unless and until you can look at everyone and everything with compassion and forgiveness and without judgement then you’ll never spiritually advance.

Some of the comments here are disgusting. Brian Smaller- your last post was foul and made me want to puke. No doubt you will make a comment like “good job/harden up/fuck off then”. As much as you apply twisted logic to the subject you can’t make this into a cultural/left vs right debate. Its not a cultural right to torture and maim. And being of indian heritage I dislike you comparing Chinese practices to the Indian culture’s views on cows. And also, a lot of Chinese DON’T like this stuff. Although, a lot of Chinese don’t care, and for that I think they, as a nation, are savages

I used to like reading this blog, I come from a Labour family and Davids writing made a lot of sense to me- and helped my 2008 conversion to the centre right.

But I’ve finally realised something about the people who post comments on here. (Took me a while.) Some of you folks are so obsessed with The Right as opposed to the left/green and anywhere left of centre that you behave like a bunch of indoctrinated SIMPLETON one-noters.

Why does everything have to be about the f***king left? How about thinking about animal rights as ANIMAL RIGHTS AND NOT A GREEN PARTY ISSUE??

Oh wait you can’t.

Yeah yeah its not about the skinning of animals. After all, the DOCTRINE you lot follow dictates that FREE TRADE IS GOOD COS IT IS WHAT IS “RIGHT”.. its about not compromising our rights to buy whatever the hell we want, why the hell should we ‘waste money’ trying to control imports from China into NZ.

Its not RIGHT to defend free trade with China regardless of the fact that they disregard human and animal rights. No human or animal should be tortured to death. And if we don’t like it we should not allow it into NZ- cut off any potential demand.

You might say “yeah but i believe in humane death for animals but golly I wont allow my rights to do whatever the hell I like to be compromised!’ In which case you are an idiot.

NEWSFLASH to Kiwiblogs regular DREGS- you ruin this blog for everyone else. Obviously David doesn’t care so yay for all of you. I wont be reading again- and yeah I know you couldn’t care less! I’ve seen other intelligent folks write posts similar to the one I’m writing now in frustration and then ‘leave’ Kiwiblog- and I’ve seen the spite and vitriol they get on their way out the door. I’ll gladly add my name to the list and not waste my time reading your bollocks comments any longer.

I expressed my opinion about the EBs. Why am I obliged to supply factual back-up for my opinion?

You’re not. Not providing anything vaguely factual, a link or even a shred of debate on it does make it seem as if you are pulling that opinion straight out of the Green playbook. I.e. a deliberate falsification to attack your “opponent”.

I said the EBs were scaremongering, and they were. Care to debate the claim I made

Sure. So lemme get this straight. You say they were telling the truth, but this was scaremongering? Riiiight.

I’d suggest that the truth wouldn’t be so scary for you Greens if you were more hands-on and familiar with the concept of truth. It’s called having integrity.

Oh, and feel free to drop in that link in anytime. Remember, Google can’t find it and you did remind me that ”The refutation you churlishly demand was done on the Frogblog loooong ago, in fact, around the time of the Brethren ‘bovver’. You need to get your finger onto the pulse a bit more!”. Only asking politely… and giving you the opportunity to demonstrate some integrity on this matter.

So, once again you find fault with the actions of others when the Greens do exactly the same thing when it comes to climate change.

Greenfly won’t front with any evidence that the EBs pamphlet was non-factual … because he/she can’t.

The truth is the Greens become apoplectic about this document because it dared exposed them for what they really are – ethically bankrupt neo-communists determined to enslave us under authoritarian state rule. It demonstrated that their environmentalism was, and remains, a Trojan Horse designed to disguise their true objectives.

Spot on. The Labour Party is the main dirt merchant around. On the other hand, the backward-looking Green Party deals in fear of progress and catastrophic events (e.g., the former “global warming”, now tactically changed to “climate change”).

Bot parasitic organisations thrive on doom and gloom.

greenfly, as I asked earlier how about a nice point-by-point refutation of the EB’s pamphlet. Just when you’re ready. . It’s taking a while. You must be reasearching your facts very carefully. That’s good.

It does not matter if the EB was right or wrong; they were expressing their opinion. The Labour Party and the Green Party decided to take that and, rather than refute the points, smear the messenger.

Rather similar to what Greenfly is doing here by trying to smear DPF and attracting a whole lot of demerits. If there was an election coming up, it’s highly likely Greenfly would lose too.

People don’t like dirt merchants.

And so will the Greens.