Calling for an intervention
March 13th, 2009 at 7:40 am by David FarrarThe NZ Herald reports:
A woman who was seven months pregnant when caught drink-driving for the eighth time went straight to the pub after a court appearance yesterday.
Call me judgemental but I think CYF should be grabbing the baby when he or she is born.
Her breath-alcohol level was measured at 994mcg per litre of breath – 594mcg over the legal limit.
Not sure what is more likely to do damage – the high levels of alcohol while pregnant, or the probability of a crash because you are driving while pissed.
It was her eighth drink-driving conviction and her 15th for driving while disqualified.
And just consider how many times she has actually driven drunk and/or disqualified. Several hundred probably.
Brown had denied the two charges but changed her pleas to guilty in January. She was remanded on bail only because she is the sole caregiver of her two children and is looking after her partner’s children while he is in jail, Rotorua’s Daily Post reported.
I have doubts they are particularly safe either.
Tags: CYF, drink driving
March 13th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Interestingly enough, I also blogged today on the issue of public displays by people unsuitable to be parents (although not this specific case).
Why does society seem to be ignoring the fact that we now have several successive generations of bad parents who each, in turn, create new generations with an equally distorted view of what constitutes “parenting”?
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Trash – the product of a welfare state and nine years of Labour taking away personal responsibility.
In fact this woman is so bad she gives Trailer Park Trash a bad name.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Yet another fine example of why beneficiaries should be issued vouchers, not given cash.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Who said there was no underclass in our country? People like this woman deserve no sympathy and should be treated harshly by the justice system.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:26 am
It can’t be all blamed on the last 9 years of Labour — as I commented today, this is now a multi-generational issue that seems to go as far back as three genenerations. *All* governments must share some of the blame for allowing this kind of thing to fester in some areas of society.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:27 am
See my posting in General Debate.
As an afterthought.
Why not threaten to stop all benefits, and make them all re-apply? Call the bludgers in one at a time before a panel of their peers, and with a Judge for direction.
THink there would be quite a few unable to justify their continued leeching.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:41 am
“Think there would be quite a few unable to justify their continued leeching.”
The name Whoar comes to mind!
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Oh great stuff, yet another damaged child brought into the planet by another selfish and addicted Maori mother. Will the Maori Party go walk about in Australia slamming child abuse across the ditch or remove the huge plank from their own eye’s and start to address the sad indictment which is the characteristic of their people? By the way, CYFS are that dysfunctional and saturated with feminist ideologies that performance indicators in use for safeguarding children are inadequate for this task. New Zealand boosts record child abuse, but the Maori MP’s go doh, not my fault bro!!
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Hmmm…generations of bad parenting? Probably only in a “living memory” sense. Go back 200 years or so and the average euro family may have been quite a mess. No state welfare, sexual and physical abuse common, parents and children dying of disease or murdered, children never knowing their parents due to war or nelglect. And yet it all sorted itself out to create one of the bravest, smartest and strongest generations of pioneers during the 20th century – our grandparents. And here we are: the soft skinned, scared of the sunlight, daren’t go outside for fear of a fart society. All part of a cycle, no doubt.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:55 am
So in the meantime we stand by and let another baby get born with FAS at which time we will all wail about the poor child and wring our hands in faux anguish.
About the same as knowing about a major crime, not intervening because you don’t have enough concrete evidence to charge with conspiracy and then hoping to catch the crims in the commission.
As a society we have been cowed by the attacks on values and have ceased to be caring about the less fortunate for fear of accusations of unwarranted interference. In fact we are fast ceasing being “a society” as I understand the concept.
Codes of conduct (as in the 10 Commandments for example) seem to be not PC and are shunned.
I despair for us.!
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Yes David, “despair” being the operative word. The amount of CYFS children appearing in youth court is spiraling out of control, but who cares, as the lawyers and social workers leech from the file number.What happened to parental responsibility? Society encourages a fractured family situation. It’s a huge growth industry in New Zealand.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Complete episodes of the Trailer Park Boys
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 10:43 am
This rot set in with the Kirk government accepting the recommendations of the Thaddeus McCarthy Commission of Inquiry into Social Security, in 1972.
The idea was that no-one who didn’t actually work for a living should have to live a lifestyle that was at any disadvantage to the lifestyles of those who did work for a living; there was to be no discernable difference regarding such persons material possessions or dignity or status in society.
Thaddeus McCarthy made some statement which should go down in history as either the most foolish or the most deliberately deceptive in history: something to the effect that he saw no evidence in NZ society that such a system would incentivise perverse outcomes. 3 years later, we had gone from a few hundred women on the newly-introduced DPB, to 30,000.
Decent men, conservatives, and so on, have just not been vigilant enough. We have been condemned as bigoted, reactionary, patriarchical, oppressive, fascistic, sexist, and all the rest of it. Rubbish. We have been a bunch of blouses. We should have turfed all the people advocating this rot, from their first attempts to infiltrate the universities and education system in the 1950′s, into jail quick smart for sedition. The morality of this is unassailable, given the consequences we see today of NOT having done it.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 11:41 am
As Ive posted before this problem really started in the early 1970s in the Norm Kirk administration My wife worked for Social Welfare as it was known and correctly predicted along with others working there the situation we now find ourselves in.
The Socialists embarked on a programme to create as many beneficaries in as many classifications as they could. They stripped the concept of indiviual responsibility and replaced this with a collective societal model
In particular the middle classes were labelled and branded as the real cause of the problems to ensure they had a guilt complex and would easlity agree to the many new benefits on offer.
Clark Wilson Cullen et al entered the poilitical system in the late 70s early 80s and encouraged the destruction of the traditional family unit and of indiviual responsibility.
We are now reaping the rewards of their efforts
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
At least the irresponsible bitch is going to get locked up. Hopefully the kids will be fostered into a good home (which probably excludes whanau) and have a chance.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“Not sure what is more likely to do damage – the high levels of alcohol while pregnant, or the probability of a crash because you are driving while pissed.”
Or… we could not intfer with evolution and let her take both of them out of the gene pool.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Imagine how those kids could be living if this “mother’ wasn’t drinking.
Why do Maori women choose bums as partners. Hers is in prison
show them a decent, honest hard working man who’s going somewhere and they don’t want to know.
In fact I was just acused by one Maori female for using the word ‘peeps’ in an email to her. she built a huge case out of it but forgot how she’d told me her druggy bf and father to her child was imprisoned.
Talk about priorities.
Of course the fact that I’m a third year journalism major and published author was of no importance.
That’s the twisted mentality of the Maori female.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
# Murray (2580) Vote: Add rating1 Subtract rating 1 Says:
March 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“Not sure what is more likely to do damage – the high levels of alcohol while pregnant, or the probability of a crash because you are driving while pissed.”
Or… we could not interfere with evolution and let her take both of them out of the gene pool.
Its called natural selection, DON’T fuck with it.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
The kid will turn out to be scum too no doubt. A perfect candidate for retrospective abortion.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
“Why do Maori women choose bums as partners. Hers is in prison”
yeah, well why are these bums allowed to impregnate these no hopers
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
“yeah, well why are these bums allowed to impregnate these no hopers”
you’ll get a very clear and concise answer over on the NZ forum on Topix to that question.
Beatlesinthebog will gladly entertain your questioning. Moreover you will find out about a fledgling organisation named IHNYG which has right leaning connotations.
I think you’ll feel fully at home with them.
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
“I think you’ll feel fully at home with them.”
Go to WINZ – you’ll feel fully at home with them
Vote:March 13th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Some people would do everyone a favour if they never had any children, but letting the state take children at birth only invites evil.
http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/should-children-be-taken-into-state-custody-at-birth/
http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/how-to-deal-with-child-abuse-part-1/
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