Clark gets UNDP Administrator job

March 25th, 2009 at 10:24 am by David Farrar

The well informed Trans-Tasman has just told subscribers that has been appointed Administrator of the United Nationals Development Programme. The role, is the third most senior at the , and needs to be confirmed by the General Assembly.

Kiwiblog broke the news on 7 February that Clark was seeking the job, and that the NZ Government was backing her for it.

Congratulations go to Helen Clark for gaining the job. As I blogged back on 7 February I do think she will do a good job, and on balance supported her candidacy – not without reservations of course. And the fact she was successful does show she is highly respected for the contribution she can make to development issues.

Kudos should go to and for their strong backing of Clark, and putting the NZ Government in full support of her bid. It is in New Zealand’s interest to have a NZer in the third most important role there and they look good for putting party politics to one side. Despite the many imperfections of the UN, we are better for its existence (parts of it could go though).

Incidentally I ran into Clark last night in the basement of the Beehive and noted to a Nat MP afterwards that she was looking pretty happy. I had heard a few days that she was the likely successful candidate, but not that she ws home and hosed.

should also be pleased. Once Helen leaves the country he may manage to make second place in the Preferred PM polls :-)

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136 Responses to “Clark gets UNDP Administrator job”

  1. slightlyrighty (2,448 comments) says:

    and we get a By-Election to keep the political junkies going for a bit as well!

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  2. Alfred (52 comments) says:

    Ahh at last Don Brash may be able to get some answers to the email/leaked papers mystery. Will Clark gone from Parliament, peace will come at last over over New Zeland. She is that evil. Oh and she will be able to speed down the German autobahns with wild abandon and not give a shit about the people.

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  3. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    So that’s how it works then – be corrupt and self serving while screwing a small country socially and economically and you get rewarded with a plum post at the UN. Great news.

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  4. emmess (1,332 comments) says:

    I see she has just left us with a nice little Fuck You Very Much
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10563402

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  5. s.russell (1,486 comments) says:

    Congratulations to HC. This is a role where her undoubted talents will be put to good use and her shortcomings will be largely irrelevant. Let her skill at machination be focused on African despots: they should be quivering with terror at this! I am optimistic that she will do a good job and do more good for the world than she has done for New Zealand.

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  6. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    …and on the bright side, I shouldn’t have to keep explaining to UK and US-based friends exactly why I loathe her so much…

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  7. slightlyrighty (2,448 comments) says:

    Question….

    How is it that one can get negative Karma for stating a fact?

    As a consequence of this decision, we are going to have a By-election, and the permutations of this will cause some debate among political afficionados.

    If the person who saw fit to award me negative Karma for stating the bleeding obvious would like to explain why, I’d like to know. Not that I’m taking it personally, I just think it’s a bit of a joke. If you have a reason, I’d be pleased to read it.

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  8. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    You’re onto it Burt.

    Or maybe the Chair of an SOE after you’ve served your penance.

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  9. jacob van hartog (309 comments) says:

    My my . How they all wriggle and squirm under the rocks this lot call home.
    Well you all have a currency trader who made his money in bonuses wall st style at ML , who like all the rest of his employers, went under after he left.
    Guess whats coming for your Nationalfront Party

    [DPF: 10 demerits for off topic]

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  10. MyNameIsJack (2,415 comments) says:

    Maybe because someone thought you should have type BI election, based on presumptions about sexuality and all that. wasn’t me though.

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  11. oob (194 comments) says:

    God I hope people presume she’s Australian.

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  12. dave (985 comments) says:

    Is Peter going with her?

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  13. goodgod (1,363 comments) says:

    May god have mercy on their souls…

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  14. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Gueez Jacob … don’t you ever let up. I was actually going to congratulate HC on her appointment but after your nasty little post why should I bother. Insteed I will remind myself that Helen Elizabeth Clark ….

    1. Stole an election with $850k of taxpayer money.
    2. Didn’t have the balls to sack TFF when she should have.
    3. Put up with cabinet Ministers pissing in hotel corridors
    4. Allowed Winster First to rort the paliamentary system
    5. Encouraged her Party President to go on a ‘dirty washing’ sniffing expedition.
    6. Engineered a parliamentary exit for a non-performing MPs by appointing her to multiple Quangos
    7. Wasn’t too good at observing speed limits.
    6. Fascilitated the politicisation of the Police Force
    9. Made NZ safe for criminals.
    10. Presided over a bloated public service

    and I haven’t even got started yet.

    On your bike Helen.

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  15. jacob van hartog (309 comments) says:

    lets compare HC with both ex NF party PMs

    Jim Bolger- KiwiBank
    Jenny Shipley , a Chinese government bank

    Is there a trend here?. Will our erstwhile Minister of Tourism become director of an Icelandic bank

    [DPF: More likely Managing Director of the IMF or President of the World Bank]

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  16. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    The UN is a loathsome vile and corrupt organisation. I can see the synergies already.

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  17. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    Sorry, I am not going to partake in this nauseating, oily, “backscratch your political opponents and turn a blind eye to their shame” moderate centrist festival, DPF, John Key, et al.

    I have been saying for years that when H1 moves from the NZ to the U.N., the average integrity level in both will be lifted. The U.N. is her perfect natural home. I wish her all the best in helping the people of her ilk that already infest it, to steer it into yet more blindingly obvious irrelevance and hopefully, oblivion.

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  18. Sushi Goblin (419 comments) says:

    DPF, surely Jacob Van Hartog’s linking of the disgusting National Front (a neo Nazi group) with the National Party is completely unaccpetable, more so that the leader of National is part Jewish.

    I think demerits for a ban are well in order.

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  19. Paul Williams (867 comments) says:

    And so continues New Zealand’s proud record of international service. Assuming the news is proven correct, congratulations to Clark, to Key and McCully and Foreign Affairs.

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  20. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    Ross – every post JVH makes is nasty, snide and vindictive. He/she has not made one constructive post in the 230+ that have been spewed from his/her hate-filled heart. I can’t imagine being that screwed up. Must be impossible to live with ones self.

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  21. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    jacob van hartog

    Perhaps you missed the point of this thread. It’s about Helen Clark, not National, not Jenny Shipley or John Key.

    Please try and keep up.

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  22. Danyl Mclauchlan (1,049 comments) says:

    More likely Managing Director of the IMF or President of the World Bank

    Convention is that one of these positions is held by a European, the other by an American. Key would have to pull of something pretty spectacular to merit either role.

    I suspect his retirement will be spent on the boards of various multinational finance companies.

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  23. Kimble (4,092 comments) says:

    Hey DPF, where are the demerits for JVH for derailing every thread he gets involved in?

    Phule and Nome copped quite a few for doing that didnt they?

    JVH is an obvious troll. FFS, he just called the National Party the National FRONT party!

    On topic, Helen Clark and the UN deserve each other.

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  24. sheath (63 comments) says:

    Can we offer the UN a ’2 for 1′ and offer them Cullen as part of the deal?

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  25. Mike S (231 comments) says:

    She will be excellent in this role, and it’s very good for NZ.

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  26. mickysavage (786 comments) says:

    New Zealand’s loss is the world’s gain …

    Ross, amongst other mistakes you make “fascilitated” is “facilitated”. Given the accuracy of your other comments I am not surprised.

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  27. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Guess whats coming for your Nationalfront Party

    [DPF: 10 demerits for off topic]

    Shit DPF, Id be more offended that he called the Nats, the Nationalfront Party!

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  28. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    “be corrupt and self serving while screwing a small country socially and economically” and you’ll fit right in at the UN burt. Hell its a CV taylored for the UN.

    She has just joined the most irrelevant organisation on the planet and it gets her out of our hair. Good bloody riddance.

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  29. Inventory2 (9,787 comments) says:

    van hartog said “Guess whats coming for your Nationalfront Party”

    Slip of the tongue their jvh, or are you showing your true colours? You are a complete and utter low-life. I apologise to David Cunliffe for suggesting that he may be using your nom-de-plume; much as I dislike Cunners, even he would not step as low as you have.

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  30. Inventory2 (9,787 comments) says:

    Paul Williams said “And so continues New Zealand’s proud record of international service. Assuming the news is proven correct, congratulations to Clark, to Key and McCully and Foreign Affairs.”

    Well said Paul. Whatever one thinks of any of those you have named, this is good news for New Zealand’s international reputation.

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  31. NOt1tocommentoften (436 comments) says:

    If this news is confirmed by the Sec General later today then I will be very pleased for Helen Clarke. During her time in parliament she has shown herself as able and robust in her approach. She has a clear understanding on international affairs, vital for a prime minister in a small nation at the bottom of the Pacific. While it has its problems, to say the UN is irrelevant is ignorant and shows little understanding of the world we live in. I think she will enjoy her new role and can add plenty to the UNDP.

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  32. greenfly (1,059 comments) says:

    Ouch! Dreadful eye-poke!

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  33. Paul Williams (867 comments) says:

    Well said Paul. Whatever one thinks of any of those you have named, this is good news for New Zealand’s international reputation.

    Cheers. Sadly, it’s overlooked by some who prefer to continue to prosecute old battles… I’ve not personally supported all the NZ pollies who’ve gone onto international roles, actually they’ve mostly been a decent lot including the Nats, but surely we should see beyond the personal and understand the value we realise when one of ours is accepted to a top job?

    NZ’s tiny and not terribly relevant in international affairs but what we can do is be an honest and bi-partisan broker… not many countries can hope to do this because of their commitments/compromises; we can and should and Helen Clark’s another example of us doing just that.

    David, I’ve appreciated the way in which you’ve covered and framed this (though I’m not surprised many of your commentators are incapable of following the example).

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  34. Kimble (4,092 comments) says:

    Good for her. As head of the UNDP Clark will have a larger field in which to play out her war on the private sector.

    She can let her ideology trump both practicality and reality as she did with the abolition of private sector involvement in Corrections.

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  35. david (2,482 comments) says:

    It will be interesting to see what happens when the UN bumps heads with some country (say Fiji) and is on a different tack from NZ. Will the UNDP administrator make a call to her friend John Key and use her impeccable logic, charm and good nature to convince him to change New Zealand’s approach or will she go public with some sarcastic retort and call the NZ Government the feral haters and wreckers of the South Pacific?

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  36. Fletch (5,716 comments) says:

    Great, she’s going to take her little agenda worldwide now – try to make the world a feminist paradise.
    *cringes*
    I can see it now – condoms, and more condoms; sex education; abortion; prostitution; gay marriage…

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  37. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Ok mickeysavage … a spelling mistake. I plead guilty.

    now to your ascertain that my list was innacurate. Please confirm that …

    1. Labour did not steal $850k of taxpayers money to fund their 2005 election campaign (and if they didn’t steal it why did they pass retrospection legislation to validate it?).
    2. TFF is as pure as the driven snow. It’s another Taiko Phillip Field that’s before the Courts.
    3. Dover Samuels never pissed in a hotel corridor (much like ‘I NEVER’ had sex with that woman’).
    4. Winston First did not operate Secret Trusts.
    5. Mike Williams never went to Melbourne
    6. Dianne Yates wasn’t appointed to six quangos.
    7. She wasn’t in the ‘car’.
    8. Doone wasn’t done. Shane Adern was never prosecuted.
    9. Bail and parole laws were not relaxed under her watch
    10. 15,000+ extra public servants didn’t happen.

    Clearly it was only a (nine year) nightmare. I’m ok now. The broomstick is off to conquor new worlds.

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  38. NOt1tocommentoften (436 comments) says:

    Fletch – “I can see it now – condoms, and more condoms; sex education; abortion; prostitution; gay marriage…”

    Can you explain what you mean by this? This is going to be good….

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  39. Captain Crab (351 comments) says:

    “Incidentally I ran into Clark last night in the basement of the Beehive ”

    I hope you were driving a very large SUV!

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  40. unaha-closp (1,033 comments) says:

    Is Peter going with her?

    Better be. The UN significantly ultra-conservative. The UNHRC is consistant in denying rights to LGBT people and generally supportive of rules discriminatory against them. Helen Clark will need to have her husband in attendance.

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  41. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Paul Williams

    NZ’s tiny and not terribly relevant in international affairs but what we can do is be an honest and bi-partisan broker…

    I agree with this 100% however, how will Helen do that? In her time as PM of this country she displayed a consistent inability to anything at all in a bi-partisan manner.

    IMHO: My way or the highway Clark is not a great fit for the role as you describe it.

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  42. MelloC (2 comments) says:

    Lol. Looks like this means that Helen is once again more powerful than John Key.

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  43. LiberalismIsASin (288 comments) says:

    What Fletch said. More birth control for developing nations is needed. In other words: Theres too many of you.

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  44. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    MelloC

    That is all Helen has ever cared about – Power. Sadly for NZ her quest for world domination saw us enter recession before any other OECD country and has left us in a bigger shambles than we should have been given the current world economic issues.

    She should be in jail for her efforts in the 2005 election – not rewarded for looking after her own best interests ahead of the NZ voters and tax payers.

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  45. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    It is always interesting when someone puts up a “top ten reasons why I hate xxx” list. Usually most of the “items” on these lists are so non-specific that they could mean anything, rendering them virtually meaningless to anyone but the converted who also worship where they are instructed to by their gurus at the shrine of “I hate xxx”.

    Case in point:

    Ross Miller (1051) Says:
    1. Stole an election with $850k of taxpayer money. [Ratbiter: "Stole" an election? WTF? This is a slogan. Specifics please!]
    2. Didn’t have the balls to sack TFF when she should have. [Ratbiter: When IN YOUR OPINION she should have.]
    3. Put up with cabinet Ministers pissing in hotel corridors [Ratbiter: Is this what matters to you in a nation's leaders? This is a boozy, rugby-club nation FFS!]
    4. Allowed Winster First to rort the paliamentary system [Ratbiter: This is a slogan. Specifics, please! Winston First's Nov08 party vote exceeds ACTs don't forget.]
    5. Encouraged her Party President to go on a ‘dirty washing’ sniffing expedition. [Ratbiter: Oh yes and trying to discredit your opponent is shocking. No-one does that.]
    6. Engineered a parliamentary exit for a non-performing MPs by appointing her to multiple Quangos [Ratbiter: Oh yes and no gummint before has ever done that.]
    7. Wasn’t too good at observing speed limits. [Ratbiter: The kiwiblog right rails against traffic cops issuing speeding tickets. You would be hailing PM Key a hero if he "defied" them. Consistency please!]
    6. Fascilitated the politicisation of the Police Force [Ratbiter: This is a slogan. Specifics please!]
    9. Made NZ safe for criminals. [Ratbiter: This is a slogan. Specifics please!]
    10. Presided over a bloated public service [Ratbiter: This is a slogan. Specifics please!]

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  46. lyndon (330 comments) says:

    Is there some way to write a url for a link to here so the comments don’t display? We just had a complaint.

    [DPF: No - they are on the same page. But you could link to say the UNDP tag which will show the article only plus other articles on UNDP without comments displaying]

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  47. andrei (2,428 comments) says:

    Seems like a good fit to me.

    After all she will be running the UN agency that has as one of its major goals the “empowerment of women”.

    A nice little sinecure for her declining years.

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  48. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Hurry hurry or I’ll miss the rugby.

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  49. unaha-closp (1,033 comments) says:

    Quick question – what is the 2nd most senior postion at the UN?

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  50. beautox (406 comments) says:

    Corrupt Clark and Corrupt UN deserve each other. She will feel right at home amongst those filthy looting pathetic jew hating wankers.

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  51. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Helen Clark will be out of mainstrean Politics for the forseeable.

    Maybe she will have to choose which one of her girlfriends gets to go with her?

    Peter can have the flat next door? Or stay at home.

    She might even treat herself to a new Rampant Rabbit? THats got a new empowerment pack!

    [DPF: And that is 30 demerits for the rabbit and the girlfriends]

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  52. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    # Glutaemus Maximus (1539) Vote: Says:
    March 25th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Maybe she will have to choose which one of her girlfriends gets to go with her?
    She might even treat herself to a new Rampant Rabbit?

    100 demerits for highly defamatory comments? Or is that only when the Left insinuates on the Right’s sexuality?

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  53. Chris Diack (723 comments) says:

    unaha-closp:

    What is the 2nd most senior postion at the UN?

    http://www.un.org/sg/deputysg.shtml

    Congraduations to Clark and to the Government for supporting her if she does indeed get the UN Development Programme post.

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  54. regor (1 comment) says:

    Good Lord. What is wrong with you people!? I have seldom seen such a fountain of vitriol and venom! Call me naïve if you want, but if Helen Clark is allegedly such an evil conspiracist, she didn’t really get very far down the track towards this atheist-feminist-socialist-anti-semitic utopia you all seem to think she was hell-bent on creating! Give the woman a break! She’s quite clearly the most capable politician NZ has produced in some time, and history is likely to judge her far more favourably than a bunch of feral bloggers drowning in their own prejudice!

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  55. unaha-closp (1,033 comments) says:

    Chris

    Thanks. Established 1997 and I’d never heard of it.

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  56. Fairfacts Media (370 comments) says:

    So the Clarkerfield monster will now lay waste to New York?
    Pop over to Barnsley Bill for the funny.
    But over at the Fairfacts Media Show, I can see where Uncle will fit in well with the corruption of the UN.
    A marriage made in heaven!

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  57. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Gueez Ratbiter … can’t you read also. I qualified each of those statements with an example. But never mind. I know that you think the sun shines out of Labour’s arse while the rest of us know we were shat upon for nine long years.

    But get used to long years in the wilderness. Many commentators think the next Labour PM ain’t even in Parliament yet. The more astute opine that he/she hasn’t even been born.

    But to HC. Is she taking H2 with her? More worlds to conquor; more bueaucracy to bloat; more chardoney to swill; more committees to chair; more reports to write; more talkfests to participate in; more backs to scratch; more democracys to criticise; more dictatorships to bow to …. the list goes on.

    I wish her well.

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  58. Glutaemus Maximus (2,207 comments) says:

    Defamatory is when it is untrue Ratbiter.

    Prove that I am wrong about her having female friends. Even though some have to shave twice a day!!

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  59. david (2,482 comments) says:

    Whoopeee, perhaps she will take John (oxygen thief) Minto to show her how to fill time and achieve nought while looking as busy as hell doing it.

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  60. Banana Llama (1,105 comments) says:

    I think we should offer our congratulations to Helen Clark as i have no doubt she will preform admirably in the U.N

    In saying that though i realized like many people here she was gunning for a UN job while still representing the country as it’s Prime Minister, as a result we had unpopular legislation being rammed down our throats in an attempt to solidify a position inside the U.N, that really rubs me the wrong way. So i guess i should also offer congratulations to the New Zealand Public for tolerating that blatant Narcissism for so long, was it worth it?

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  61. Manolo (12,614 comments) says:

    “I wish her well.”

    I don’t.

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  62. Grant Michael McKenna (1,151 comments) says:

    I wish her well…away from here.

    Seriously, it is a great thing for NZ, and now Our [Former] Dear Leader can have fun with the dictators…

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  63. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    “Other” dictators Grant.

    Although I doudt they’ll let her in the clubhouse, shes strictly small time.

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  64. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    As I mused a while back… With Helen at the helm I do wonder how many developing nations will experience their first GLBT Mardi Gras before they get clean drinking water.

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  65. lyndon (330 comments) says:

    But you could link to say the UNDP tag which will show the article only plus other articles on UNDP without comments displaying

    Thanks. I didn’t actually expect anything but that is a quite good link, with the background and all.

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  66. EverlastingFire (290 comments) says:

    Hellin shouldn’t even be eligable for a WINZ benefit after the 9 years of shit Labour put the country through. The UN will have their hands full. She deserves no congrats.

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  67. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    I think she might well regret applying for the position.

    While she has enjoyed vast real power as Prime Minister here, she will be a public servant in New York, and apart from a vary active society life – not it’s not social as they means, in common usage, pleasure – she will find herself surrounded by other public servants, all of whom have their own agendas.

    Auntie Helen is used to getting her own way, she’s been in power for too long. I have a feeling the “yes administrator’ mandarins will far out-manoeuvre her relative naivety.

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  68. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    Well she might get to know whoever gets this job quite well if her previous performance is anything to go by:

    https://jobs.un.org/Galaxy/Release3/vacancy/Display_Vac.aspx?lang=1200&VACID=4a492882-caba-4120-91cb-433c60411548

    “The Investigations Division conducts investigations in accordance with best practises and applicable rules and standards into allegations of possible violations of UN regulations, rules and other pertinent administrative issuances; possible criminal violations, including fraud and corruption; and waste and abuse of UN resources”

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  69. dave strings (608 comments) says:

    bugger

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  70. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Buggerlugs

    I hear that she is already recommending Winston Peters for that job.

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  71. david (2,482 comments) says:

    Looks like Ban Ki Moon is subject to an outflanking manouver from the Feministas.

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  72. Gravyman62 (37 comments) says:

    Sorry, what exactly is this job? Does it do anything useful by any measure? It may be a “senior” post, but what exactly will she do?

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  73. jocko (110 comments) says:

    Given other recent ‘senior’ international organisation postings for former prime ministers/senior politicians (eg Moore, McKinnon) I guess HEC is in line for her ONZ before much longer.
    Not sure whether that then qualifies her for a Dame-hood – or did Key exclude ONZ holders from that honorific?
    If so, he’s played a very long game!!

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  74. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    Graveyman62, it’s a UN job. So it mostly involves subtle promotion of various despots, advancement of anything post-Christian pseduo-liberal, thinly-veiled hatred of anything to do with Israel, lots of politicking and endless self-promotion. Think there’s quite a bit of Hennessy XO consumed too.

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  75. Manolo (12,614 comments) says:

    The news: “The post, to be taken up in August, is the third most senior UN role and would involve overseeing a $US5 billion ($8.9 billion) budget, which is mostly spent on programmes in Africa.”

    So, Clark will 1) have heaps of money to play with and squander (got ample practice on this subject over the last nine years as Prime Minister); and 2) her clients and victims will be the impoverished Africans, on whom she will preach the virtues of socialism, while living the high life in New York (and earning a ton of money).

    Aren’t left wingers like Helen Clark an example of supreme hypocrisy?

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  76. LUCY (359 comments) says:

    The UN and Helen Clark are well suited to each other. Both are corrupt self serving and totally useless. A marriage made in heaven.

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  77. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    Manolo – correct. Quite how socialism will help developing nations is beyond me. The likely outcome is their further decline into global dependence and a perpetuation of the relief gravy train.

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  78. big bruv (12,320 comments) says:

    How is this good for New Zealand?

    The most corrupt PM in our nations history scores a job with the most corrupt organisation in the world, in many ways the pair are a perfect fit, however Klark will continue to be a national embarrassment and a reminder of all that is bad with socialism and Labour.

    While I am glad to see the back of her (good riddance) I would rather she had retired gracefully and apologised to the people of New Zealand before the door to Parliament hit her on the arse on the way out.

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  79. Don the Kiwi (1,316 comments) says:

    Glutemus Maximus.

    You can wear your 30 demerits like a badge of honour.

    Bet saying it was worth every one of them :lol:

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  80. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Can you imagine the comotion when Helen turns up for her first day on the new job…. Having seen her airbrushed pictures…

    Ah excuse me Mrs Clark, we don’t know where your daughter is at the moment but when she turns up we will get her to come and see you.

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  81. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    # unaha-closp (438) Vote: Add rating 8 Subtract rating 2 Says:
    March 25th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    “Is Peter going with her?

    Better be. The UN significantly ultra-conservative. The UNHRC is consistant in denying rights to LGBT people and generally supportive of rules discriminatory against them. Helen Clark will need to have her husband in attendance.”

    That is an interesting point. Of course, The UN’s conservatism is all about not offending Islam. Hulun has of course already shown herself quite happy to wear the full hijab while attending Islamic functions, while condemning Christian “chinless scarf wearers” when it suits her. Liberal leftism is riddled with such hypocrisies.

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  82. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    When history is written and our beloved Dear Leader is put into the history books there will be a paragraph on the perfect example of the ultimate oxymoron. Dear Leader as head of a development program.

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  83. slijmbal (1,133 comments) says:

    Interesting that many do not get the active dislike that many have of Clark – I’m suprised I dislike her and her glove puppet, Cullen, as much as I do because I’ve never, ever had such antipathy against a politician before – I rested happy in the knowledge that they could only cause so much damage. But let’s look back over the last 9 years – there has been an active ‘us and them’ policy, dividing the country (very anti-kiwi) – it has been snide, manipulative to a degree not seen before in NZ politics, downright nasty and has materially affected the wellbeing of every single kiwi (in a bad way). The methods used have been slimy (and I should know slime :)) and leave a bad taste in the mouth.

    I salute an ultimate professional for an exceedingly professional approach to do an amoral job but can I respect a person who fronted this? Obviously, not. It may sound childish but she started it. Be nice to get back to a more inclusive rather than separatist approach.

    I see this as the least worst outcome – yes, she receives an enormous salary, probably diplomatic and expense perquisites, tax concessions and kudos – but I rely on her self interest to do a good job – she will also no longer be in NZ – she will be bound by a million protocols and probably limited in further damage she can cause – and if that damage is to the UN – I struggle to give a damn.

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  84. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    Philbest – what does “Chinless Scarf Wearer” actually MEAN, to you? In your own words.

    I doubt it is a homily of me calling the wearer of a Hijab a “rag head”! :-)

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  85. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Philbest will I’m sure give you his answer however mine is:

    “Chinless Scarf Wearer” :

    1) A denigration of an individual designed to distract attention away from the self serving legislation that is being passed through parliament. Legislation designed to give the incumbent govt a spending advantage over dissenting parties.

    2) Anybody who disagrees with the govt and it’s intentions to rort the public purse corruptly overspending to win an election – especially a person who might be involved in a religious group which takes exception to the govts policies.

    3) Any individual or group who do not bow down to the Labour party and defend their corrupt actions.

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  86. colinm (65 comments) says:

    Yep, goodbye Helen.
    National must be breathing a sigh of relief now, as there is one less person they wont have to pretend to investigate.

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  87. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Also lets us not forget;

    4) A denigration used to justify drafting laws that single out specific religious groups in ways that restrict their free speech.

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  88. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    burt – oh! I get it. So it’s about as meaningful as my 4yo calling someone a poo bum then.

    I fail to see why everyone is so incensed if that is the case. And I look forward more than ever to seeing how Philbest derives evidence of some malign anti-christian hegemony from it…

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  89. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    People should be incensed when politicians draft laws that are specifically targeted to shut down dissent of individual groups or religious affiliations. It’s a basic attack on human rights that should be resisted with great vigor. I think you are on shaky ground when you view it as OK for the govt to single out certain groups simply because you are not one of the effected parties.

    When the came for the trade unionists I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a trade unionist…..

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  90. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    Incidentally I ran into Clark last night in the basement of the Beehive

    The mental picture is horrifying…

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  91. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Your 4yo may have a greater objective in using that phrase, be careful he/she is not slowly but surely creating fear and lothing about you while doing this so that he/she can undermine you ability to voice your opinion on important matters related to the running of your household. If he/she is doing that then he/she might also make it to the #3 spot in the UN one day – you will of course be living in the gutter long before that as your usefulness will have been exhausted long ago.

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  92. John Ansell (861 comments) says:

    The Germans unleash Nazism.

    The Americans unleash nuclear weapons.

    The Chinese unleash SARS.

    The Kiwis unleash Hel.

    Why do we always have to go one better?

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  93. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    Wow! And all I wanted was for someone to explain the sweeping assertion that the “chinless scarf wearers” comment proves the hypocrisy of the entire liberal left.

    But getting back to your number (4), I’m still not seeing the connection between the chinless scarf wearers comment and anything religious.

    I’ve never heard anyone talk about chinless scarf wearers anywhere other than on this blog. So I don’t understand how you can get into calling it “a denigration used to justify drafting laws that single out specific religious groups in ways that restrict their free speech” when we haven’t even established that there’s a movement afoot to denigrate christians (or whoever it is) as chinless scarf wearers.

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  94. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    I think you will find it was a phrase used by the master of deep intellectual thinking Trevor Mallard as a way to describe some members of the exclusive brethren. It was all around the time the EFA provisions which were discussed in the house as being “to shut down the exclusive brethren” were occurring. This was also around the time that the same amendments were being discussed to ensure that they restricted the EB but not the catholic church. Ironic coming from the liberal left I know but true none the less.

    “A weird and dangerous sect” were the words the woman who cannot be convicted used to describe the EB.

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  95. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    Well in that case it sounds like the EB earned the attention they got more from their political activities than from their choices of which God to worship and how. So it’s not really religious persecution at all, is it?

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  96. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Drafting laws to specifically target one religious group and not others IS religious prosecution – don’t be such an apologist for Labour – you are smarter than that.

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  97. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    PS: Oh, not sure how she got “dangerous” but they ARE weird alright! Did you see the list of hoops that you have to jump through if you want to even have their children socialize and be friendly with your children?

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  98. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    I think Christians are weird, who else would divide their followers of the same God into different groups and kill each other because they have different symbols and ways of worshiping the same God?

    Is that giving me the right to restrict Catholics or Protestants from voicing their opinions about me and the things I do ?

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  99. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    It’s religious persecution when the police state starts making it hard for you to attend your place of worship.

    When you and your mates band together to give financial support to a political party, and the govenment moves in to try and regulate against this, then IMHO it’s a stretch to say that they’re persecuting you BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGION. You might equally have been a group of wealthy toy train enthusiasts or Dachshund breeders or whatever.

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  100. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    You won’t stop defending the drafting of laws to target specific groups will you. Look you dim-bulb, it would be equally offensive if Labrador breeders were allowed to speak their mind but Dachshund breeders were not. Which part of this is too hard for you to grasp?

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  101. Ratbiter (1,265 comments) says:

    No. I’m sorry but I’ve said several times now I’m interested in where the “all liberal leftists are hypocrites” comment came from – not in justifying or being an apologist for Labour’s actions re the EFA. I’m surprised you don’t see this.

    And I was about to say I appreciate having a civilised conversation about something for once – it makes a change. But then the usual kiwiblog bollocks comes up e.g “look you dim-bulb” “you are just defending Labour” “what part of this is too hard for you” …I thought it was too good to last. Good night.

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  102. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Ratbiter

    Run away, I would too if I had defended the drafting of laws to target specific groups. Bye.

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  103. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    Thank you, Burt.

    Ratbiter, if the hypocrisy that is implicit in the left’s demonisation of “christian fundamentalists” as bigoted, patriarchical, judgemental, superstitious, irrational, etc etc etc; and their kow-towing to exotic and indigenous religions who are much worse on every count; is not abundantly clear to you, it is hardly worth the effort trying to explain my point to you.

    You can bet if Hulun ever officially went to meet the EB on their own territory, she would not bother to observe THEIR “patriarchical”, “oppressive” dress codes; heck, she is not noted for observing dress codes when meeting none other than HRH the Queen…….but she is quite happy to observe dress codes for a religion whose treatment of women is stuck back centuries before the most patriarchical forms of christian faiths. Yep, she will fit in perfectly at the UN.

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=31F629C9FF2C34C2

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  104. getstaffed (9,188 comments) says:

    burt – I fairly certain that the EBs were attacked beacuse of their beliefs. After all, this was all about generating voter fear, nothing to do with genuinely addressing the concerns of an organised group of voices. It’s hard to instil fear into the hearts of voters about the evil intentions of Dachshund breeders … but very easy to do this with the EB’s !

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  105. big bruv (12,320 comments) says:

    A reminder to John Key,

    Do not forget the way this nasty, evil maggot insulted Dr Brash when he gave his valedictory speech, I would hope you would remember that snub and respond in kind by walking out of the house the same way she did when Dr Brash rose to speak.

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  106. lloydois (268 comments) says:

    Fabulous…..if only to watch the usual suspects spew out their predictable drivel here.

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  107. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    big bruv

    I actually hope John Key never stoops as low as Helen Clark.

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  108. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    lloydois

    It’s appalling isn’t it – some people actually think she Helen is competent and deserving of such a position. It is indeed drivel and the -ve karma tells the story.

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  109. reid (15,505 comments) says:

    I’m wondering what her motivation is for this particular job. At this point I see it as a foot in the door.

    Hulun always has her sights set on the next thing not the current one.

    Fletch said:

    Great, she’s going to take her little agenda worldwide now – try to make the world a feminist paradise.

    IMO while Hulun does do personal agendas they are mostly to satisfy a useful interest group she wants to exploit. She spends however most of her time doing what her masters expect of her. A lot of her time during her PM years were devoted to implementing the global agenda: gay marriage, ETS, etc. The main reason I don’t like her at all and think she’s a venal bitch in fact, is that she doesn’t give a damn whether those policies are the best for the nation, she just doesn’t care. If that’s what the masters want then that’s what they shall get, appears to be her worldview.

    All of which is a totally suitable perspective which will allow her to go very far indeed in the UN arena. While the UN Sec Gen is a political pick dependent on region, she will spend a lot of time in her new position lobbying for herself, regardless of whether Oceania is up for grabs again during her lifetime. What’s really interesting to me, is that I’ve never actually seen what Clark herself really stands for. After all these years, I have no idea what she really believes in, beyond the public facade.

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  110. Richard Hurst (710 comments) says:

    Are Africa’s warlords, dictators and presidents-for-life ready for Helen with a clipboard, sensible shoes and a sour expression asking them why so much UNDP aid ends up in personal bank accounts in the Cayman Islands?
    Poor bastards. There’s no escape for them because Helen already knows all the tricks about misusing state funds
    Use a crook to catch a crook ;)

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  111. reid (15,505 comments) says:

    Yeah but those people survive Richard because some other more powerful people want them to. For example, Mugabe survives because Mbeke wants him to.

    It will be very interesting to see how Hulun handles the situation when the interests of her masters (i.e. those who can help her career) conflict with humanitarian aspects of any given international situation.

    One thing in her favour is that she clearly sees through bullshit, as she did in refusing to send troops to Iraq but agreed to send them to Afghanistan.

    Knowing her style, I expect her to start laying out the groundrules pretty clearly, perhaps beginning with some of the thugs who have no political influence whatsoever, such as the LRA in the DRC. The Lord’s Republican Army in the Democratic Republic of the Congo are fighting the govt for the coltan reserves which is available only in quantity in a very few places, Congo being one. Coltan is vital in cellphones but not much use for anything else and this is exactly why the Congo has become a no-go area over the last ten-fifteen years. It wasn’t worth anything before the growth of the cellphone market.

    So it would appear that the LRA might have access to a few powerful friends (where else are they getting their resources from?) but guess what? They’re commercial interests not political ones.

    Oh dear. The UN doesn’t give a flying fuck about commercial interests except when they buy political influence. Last I heard, companies like Nokia weren’t too heavily into that and anyway, who cares about Norway when you’re the UN?

    So that’s why I think she might try something experimental there as a first muscle-flexing move, since the LRA has been appearing more and more often in the media and it would be a doable and notable exercise for her.

    Sad really, since the DRC has been wracked by these LRA pricks for many years now, and the MSM have only recently picked up on it. Even now, most people in the street would say “what?” if you asked them.

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  112. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    Congratulations go to Helen Clark for gaining the job.

    I noticed a typo, it should read:

    “Congratulations go to Helen Clark for GAMING the job.”

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  113. lloydois (268 comments) says:

    Strangely enough Burt she managed a country well enough for you to be still 1st world.

    You should be so fucking lucky. You could have had any number of right wing arse holes who would have left you further down the toilet, much less better positioned to withstand the current storm.

    But hey, what would I know. I voted for Kevin Rudd and supported Obama…..

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  114. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    I wish her ill.

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  115. calendar girl (1,108 comments) says:

    I’m relieved that Ms Clark has secured a position that she wants, because it’s clear that she has not been enjoying her parliamentary duties over recent months.

    The MSM have made much about her new job and its importance but, as usual, have offered little in the way of detailed background information. We’re told that it’s the UN’s 3rd most powerful job, but the UN organisation chart
    (http://www.un.org/aboutun/chart_en.pdf) doesn’t convey that impression. Some verifiable facts would help us establish for ourselves the relative importance within the UN organisation of the Director, UN Development Programme.

    We are told that the job is the third most important because it manages the largest budget – US$5bn or NZ$9.8bn. On the surface of it that doesn’t seem a huge sum in the UN context, so to help us evaluate – what is the total UN annual budget? And for comparison what are the individual total budgets of the top five departments and / or programmes?

    What is the total staff complement under the control of the Director, UN Development Programme?

    What is the annual salary attached to the job? (I assume that the UN publishes top salaries.) Where does this salary sit in the UN pecking order?

    Finally, the UNDP appears to be funded by voluntary contributions from member states. In 2008 NZ’s total contributions seemed to be disproportionate to its population and wealth – US$12.5m versus contributions (by way of examples only) of:
    - US$28.5m from Australia
    - US$24.2m from China
    - US$6.2m from India
    - US$2.9m from Russia
    Has NZ always been a disproportionate contributor to this particular plan, or only in 2008?

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  116. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    She has gamed it well, very well. Imagine how degraded her chances would have been if Darnton vs Clark had been successful. Conventions be dammed. The more recent passage of the EFA also shows us how the advice of the HRC and wide public consultation can be discarded or disregarded to achieve an objective.

    I think the PM has a few things she can teach the UN.

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  117. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    What a Manus lloydois.

    You just watch the New Zealand GDP figures that come out this Friday and see how wonderful Helen Clark was then is “maintaining” New Zealand’s standard of living. The way New Zealand is going Helen Clark will be giving development grants to New Zealand.

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  118. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    calendar girl

    The thot plickens. There’s always pay offs isn’t there….

    OK I’ll be generous here for a moment. The PM has a real belief in the cause and therefore NZ has been a big contributor. OK, so who made that decision? Were we consulted or even informed? Where was the information available? How is this amount compared to aid we give to pacific nations? and yes how long has this been going on?

    Hey here’s a tui billboard – The media will thoroughly investigate the disproportionate large donations in 2008 from NZ to the UNDP.

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  119. lloydois (268 comments) says:

    LOL

    http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20090320-0742-

    You’ve swapped competence for a bunch of arrogant morons!!!

    Well done.

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  120. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    lloydois

    Under clark we have fallen in the OECD rankings.

    calendar girl

    Are we to assume from that list that NZ, Australia and China all had people in the running for the job and India & Russia did not?

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  121. lloydois (268 comments) says:

    I suspect the best person got the job…..however difficult that is for you to comprehend.

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  122. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    Clark exited her PM position leaving New Zealand in a worse state than when she got the job. She will no doubt do the same regarding the UNDP Administrator Job.

    “Suffer the children”. :roll:

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  123. hayek (81 comments) says:

    “Clark exited her PM position leaving New Zealand in a worse state than when she got the job”

    OECD rank 22 kiwi, what does this graph show then?

    http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/keygraphs/Fig2.html

    either it’s a conspiracy and left-wing bureaucrats are doctoring the statistics, or you are just talking bullshit.

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  124. hayek (81 comments) says:

    Or perhaps you are talking about this?

    http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/keygraphs/Fig9.html

    It comes as no great surprise that key economic indicators have veered alarmingly in the negative direction: this is a situation developed countries are getting walloped over the head with.

    Do you have any pithy details when you say Clark wrecked the country, or are you just spouting mindless slogans?

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  125. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    There you go hayek:
    OECD ladder too steep for NZ to climb

    The article shows how Clark stuffed New Zealand up and stuffed it good

    Top half of the OECD indeed. On that score Helen Clark is an EPIC FAIL!

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  126. hayek (81 comments) says:

    Helen Clark’s aspirational statement of “top half of the OECD” was a meaningless political slogan. However to go from the failure to achieve that to “stuffed New Zealand up and stuffed it good” is a completely dishonest statement. New Zealand achieved economic growth during Clark’s tenure totalling an approximate increase in GDP/capita over the period of 25+%, and that is DEFINATELY not leaving the country in a worse condition than she started. It beats me why she should have
    ever used that slogan, but you are just plain wrong in your critique.

    Perhaps it can be argued that Helen Clark squandered some opportunity for better rates of economic growth, but you can’t just assert that as the truth without evidence: the NBR article definitely doesn’t provide all the evidence. (The fact that two authoritarian east asian city states which were once poorer than us are now richer than us means not much because the dynamics of such economies are so vastly different (eg zero primary industry). The fact that Spain and Greece benefit from membership of the EU is another important factor.)

    It may be that certain policies of Helen Clark’s were implemented for their political appeal rather than their pure economic nous, but I dare you to define truly “positive economic” policy. Economic growth is important, but not the only factor in building a better country: your personal like or dislike of certain Labour policies is yours to own.

    It pisses me off when politicians make absurd statements and promises, but this is what they do all the time so their no use holding to the expectation. When OECD rankings are a moving target, we don’t need to always judge our economic success relative to other countries: sometimes this can be constructive and sometimes this can be deconstructive. I think in your case it is the latter: because you are obsessed with OECD ranking, it colours and even obscures your ability to assess potentially more important aspects of the true situation.

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  127. clintheine (1,560 comments) says:

    If you have seen the resumes of the people who have held this job before Helen you would be quite worried if Helen was able to live up to the expectations. There have been some very eminent people in this role – now unless they took this role to play with a multibillion dollar slush fund, then Helen is going to struggle to be as good as they were.

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  128. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    Sounds like you’re making excuses for failure there hayek.

    “But but but all the countries that have overtaken New Zealand in the OECD rankings are different.” No kidding Sherlock. That’s the point isn’t it? If you do what you’ve always done you get what you’ve always got, failure.

    The list of “positive economic” policies that Labour chose to ignore are huge. Decent Tax cuts and a reduction in government expenditure would be a good start. Instead Helen Clark chose to expand the Welfare State with Bludging for Families.

    Without a decent economy with good economic growth going forward all New Zealand is left with scenery and that doesn’t pay the bills

    Lloyd Morrison highlights New Zealanders lack of focus on what’s important:
    Lloyd Morrison: Time to reclaim status as God’s Own

    It’s now left to a National/ACT government to pick up the pieces left by the failed Clark government.

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  129. hayek (81 comments) says:

    ““But but but all the countries that have overtaken New Zealand in the OECD rankings are different.” No kidding Sherlock. That’s the point isn’t it? If you do what you’ve always done you get what you’ve always got, failure.”

    I was merely highlighting the simplicity of the statements in the NBR article you quoted as though it was some authoritative and impartial statement in positive economics. And you must be wilfully misunderstanding what I mean by positive economics. I think it is valid to criticise the labour government’s economic policy, it’s just lazy and meaningless the way you are critiquing it.

    You still haven’t explained how consistent economic growth and overall significantly higher GDP equates to “leaving the country completely stuffed” or “leaving it in worse condition than she started with”. I’ve acknowledged the possibility that Clark’s government could have achieved higher economic growth (though its not some sort of no-brainer like you suggest). Why is your only response to me highlighting that what you are saying is baseless rhetoric (ie New Zealand’s economy has actually expanded and key economic indicators have actually advanced) that I’m “making excuses for failure”?

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  130. Bok (740 comments) says:

    Yep and still the NZ way is to reward the crims and punish the victims . Well at least the UN will be one of the first to suffer from the global economic crissis.

    On another note DPF, I am starting to thinks WOBH has something about you not belonging in the VRWC. You give Glutus 30 demerits and Van Hartog none for suggesting Brash having sleepovers away from home and denigrating the other person he names to boot. You really surprise me. If you try to be more politically correct or suck up to the left more, maybe you can get a job with helen in the UN.

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  131. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    OECD rank 22

    It’s now left to a National/ACT government to pick up the pieces left by the failed Clark government.

    Again. Once again the National govt with some help from some people too clever and capable to stay in the Labour party will fix up the failed policies of the past. And once again they start that recovery with undisclosed debts and a shrinking economy.

    Why do NZ voters forget how destructive high tax and spend govt’s are for a small economy ?

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  132. PhilBest (5,112 comments) says:

    Hayek, the NZ economy, plotted on a graph, would have a steep downwards trend from about 2004 onwards, and would cross the X Axis going into the negatives at precisely the time their 9 years ended. Fact: NZ went into recession before any other OECD country. Fact: productivity growth in NZ went from a record high in 1999 to a record low in 2008. THAT is what really, really counts. We will have years of pain thanks to the Clark government, irrespective of events offshore.

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  133. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    Hayek

    In 16 years from now people will still be talking about the Clark years as the failed policies of the past. Totally stupid people will talk about the damage done by the following National govt adminsitering hard medicine. It’s all been seen before, some of us remember who caused it – dim-bulbs only remember who fixed it and shoot the messenger in a desperate bid to claim no responsibility.

    Grow up – socialism is a failure, it was a failure before Clark & Muppet Cullen decided to give it one more go to help Clark get her UN post.

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  134. hayek (81 comments) says:

    “NZ economy, plotted on a graph, would have a steep downwards trend from about 2004 onwards, and would cross the X Axis going into the negatives at precisely the time their 9 years ended”

    I believe you. But to be precise you mean NZ economic growth, not the NZ economy, and you mean negative trend, not immediate decline implied by “negative”. I had 2 main points: one, that NZ economy is not not, overall, in negative territory compared to where it was in 1999. My second main point to OECD rank 22 kiwi was perhaps more one of agreement, a criticism of Clark for her empty aspirational political slogan about OECD ranking.

    “productivity growth in NZ went from a record high in 1999 to a record low in 2008. THAT is what really, really counts.”

    I don’t disbelieve you, but a source would be good. I also believe that productivity growth is what really really counts for an economy.

    “Grow up – socialism is a failure, it was a failure before Clark & Muppet Cullen decided to give it one more go to help Clark get her UN post.”

    Burt, you are the one who needs to grow up if you think that anyone who enters into a debate without the preformed opinion that Helen Clark is a self-serving, irresponsible, economically illiterate ibecile must be some sort of crazed left-wing lunatic. Pretty much the purpose of weighing into the debate was to counter all the ludicrous, baseless exaggeration, portraying Helen Clark as some sort of Salvador Allende-style socialist. I’m very open to debate HC’s economic policy however.

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  135. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,785 comments) says:

    hayek – New Zealand’s relative position in comparison to its core competitors has declined. The income gap continues to grow. That’s why the best and the brightest migrate overseas while the useless remain in New Zealand expecting the State to pay for their lifestyle. It’s just not sustainable in the long term, which is good.

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  136. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Hulun is a good political adminstrator. Good luck to her.

    New Zealand needs to move on from the sychophantic beauracracy she has left behind.

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