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		<title>By: tvb</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541518</link>
		<dc:creator>tvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;released under the official information act&quot; started when some people (Michael Laws in the late 1980s) were manipulating releases saying they were leaked (big story) when in fact they were released legitimately.  Another strategy is whether documents should merely be released to the requester or whether they should have a wider release or general release as we called them.  A journalist could be manipulated over a threat to make a general release (i.e. stopping the exclusive) if they were going to shaft the Department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;released under the official information act&#8221; started when some people (Michael Laws in the late 1980s) were manipulating releases saying they were leaked (big story) when in fact they were released legitimately.  Another strategy is whether documents should merely be released to the requester or whether they should have a wider release or general release as we called them.  A journalist could be manipulated over a threat to make a general release (i.e. stopping the exclusive) if they were going to shaft the Department.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541497</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OIA advice.  Be specific as you can be.  Read the Act - point out the public interest in the information you want if you think that some grounds would exist for it being withheld.  Don&#039;t be surprised if information doesn&#039;t exist - the Government does not have its finger in every pie (just apple pie).  Specify that it is an OIA and you want the documents - the OIA is silent on how to respond (i.e. a legitimate and legal response is to summarise the information).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OIA advice.  Be specific as you can be.  Read the Act &#8211; point out the public interest in the information you want if you think that some grounds would exist for it being withheld.  Don&#8217;t be surprised if information doesn&#8217;t exist &#8211; the Government does not have its finger in every pie (just apple pie).  Specify that it is an OIA and you want the documents &#8211; the OIA is silent on how to respond (i.e. a legitimate and legal response is to summarise the information).</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541485</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best advice with OIAs is to ask very specific questions that cannot be weasled out of by Civil Servants who will do what they can not to answer the specific question being asked.  Do not ask general questions as they will give a general answer.  

The trick is knowing the right question to ask.

Of course now that National are the government I do not ask the questions so much any more - I want this government to be around a very long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best advice with OIAs is to ask very specific questions that cannot be weasled out of by Civil Servants who will do what they can not to answer the specific question being asked.  Do not ask general questions as they will give a general answer.  </p>
<p>The trick is knowing the right question to ask.</p>
<p>Of course now that National are the government I do not ask the questions so much any more &#8211; I want this government to be around a very long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541449</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyway, I went to church yesterday and the minister preached a long sermon, all about sharing, andf helping, and kindness. Seemed very communist to me.&quot;

You leftists are so fucken dumb. That is not communism, because its voluntary, and people do it willingly. Its charity and compassion. Communism is compulsory, and its stealing. 

Such hopeless morons leftists. Sometimes I wonder, when they display such woeful ignorance as this, if there&#039;s ever going to be any hope for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyway, I went to church yesterday and the minister preached a long sermon, all about sharing, andf helping, and kindness. Seemed very communist to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>You leftists are so fucken dumb. That is not communism, because its voluntary, and people do it willingly. Its charity and compassion. Communism is compulsory, and its stealing. </p>
<p>Such hopeless morons leftists. Sometimes I wonder, when they display such woeful ignorance as this, if there&#8217;s ever going to be any hope for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smaller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541429</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Manolo,

Doesn’t seem vastly different from the Mormons. Let us not forget the evils of caffeine.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.  Talk about a lame attempt at relativism.  Morman jihadis come around and mow your lawn if you ask them to.  Muslim Jihadis cut your head off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Manolo,</p>
<p>Doesn’t seem vastly different from the Mormons. Let us not forget the evils of caffeine.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.  Talk about a lame attempt at relativism.  Morman jihadis come around and mow your lawn if you ask them to.  Muslim Jihadis cut your head off.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541425</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme E I wasnt implying that merely making the point that we do seem to have a culture where the bad stuff comes out thru informal  whistleblowers

There  has never to my knowledge been a case bought under the Protected Disclosures Act 1999 which doe suggest said Act is woefully inadequate.

The public confidence can only be served when they percieve there is a process to allow bad stuff to be reported and action taken against the bad bastards. 

Good governance is all about tone at the top  Those campaigning for good governance are relying on JK to stamp his mark by sending the shock troops aka AG to shake the trees and see what falls out.

There is a lot of rotten fruit on the trees. Witness ACC Board. This is just the tip of the iceberg. We need to see all the Socialists appointees gone and some real quality governance professionals installed

They do exist they are ready to serve CCMAU and others have to start fishing in a different pond rather the same old same old that they have for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme E I wasnt implying that merely making the point that we do seem to have a culture where the bad stuff comes out thru informal  whistleblowers</p>
<p>There  has never to my knowledge been a case bought under the Protected Disclosures Act 1999 which doe suggest said Act is woefully inadequate.</p>
<p>The public confidence can only be served when they percieve there is a process to allow bad stuff to be reported and action taken against the bad bastards. </p>
<p>Good governance is all about tone at the top  Those campaigning for good governance are relying on JK to stamp his mark by sending the shock troops aka AG to shake the trees and see what falls out.</p>
<p>There is a lot of rotten fruit on the trees. Witness ACC Board. This is just the tip of the iceberg. We need to see all the Socialists appointees gone and some real quality governance professionals installed</p>
<p>They do exist they are ready to serve CCMAU and others have to start fishing in a different pond rather the same old same old that they have for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel Masters</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541408</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel Masters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that documents shown on television, and released under the OIA, are always stamped in huge letters on every page: &quot;RELEASED UNDER THE OFFICIAL INFORMATION ACT&quot;. Does somebody actually have the job of overprinting these?

Or is it just State TV adding this lettering to big themselves up?

[DPF: All Departments stamp that on info released, so it is obvious if it was leaked or released]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that documents shown on television, and released under the OIA, are always stamped in huge letters on every page: &#8220;RELEASED UNDER THE OFFICIAL INFORMATION ACT&#8221;. Does somebody actually have the job of overprinting these?</p>
<p>Or is it just State TV adding this lettering to big themselves up?</p>
<p>[DPF: All Departments stamp that on info released, so it is obvious if it was leaked or released]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sproull</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541396</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sproull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manolo,

Doesn&#039;t seem vastly different from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://mormon.wikia.com/wiki/Mormon_Rules&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mormons&lt;/a&gt;. Let us not forget the evils of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;caffeine&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manolo,</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t seem vastly different from the <a href="http://mormon.wikia.com/wiki/Mormon_Rules" rel="nofollow">Mormons</a>. Let us not forget the evils of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom" rel="nofollow">caffeine</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541395</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gd - I didn&#039;t mean to impley Whale did anything wrong in publishing the information, was just noting what I considered DPF&#039;s mis-interpretation of the how the information was obtained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gd &#8211; I didn&#8217;t mean to impley Whale did anything wrong in publishing the information, was just noting what I considered DPF&#8217;s mis-interpretation of the how the information was obtained.</p>
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		<title>By: MyNameIsJack</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541394</link>
		<dc:creator>MyNameIsJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t you storm out of here, throwing your toys all over the place? Swore you&#039;d never be back, aye?

can&#039;t stay out of the limelight long, can you?

Anyway, I went to church yesterday and the minister preached a long sermon, all about sharing, andf helping, and kindness. Seemed very communist to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t you storm out of here, throwing your toys all over the place? Swore you&#8217;d never be back, aye?</p>
<p>can&#8217;t stay out of the limelight long, can you?</p>
<p>Anyway, I went to church yesterday and the minister preached a long sermon, all about sharing, andf helping, and kindness. Seemed very communist to me.</p>
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		<title>By: bobux</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541393</link>
		<dc:creator>bobux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan

This is my advice, as someone who has spent a fair bit of time answering OIAs (I&#039;ve taken time off from reviewing one to type this).

1) Get address of relevant department
2) Decide what information you are seeking
3) Write a letter including the phrase &#039;Under the Official Information Act, I request ...

That&#039;s it. 

Pkiwi is correct in that any request for information is supposed to be answered bearing in mind the requirements of the OIA. However, in my department (unsure about others), OIAs have a separate filing and reporting stream to general correspondence, meaning that answers are more likely to be checked for completeness before mailing.

The important thing is deciding what to ask for. The more specific a request, the more likely it is to be met. Letters requesting (hypothetically) &#039;any stuff about violence in the South Island&#039; will get a &#039;please clarify&#039; response.

Contra Red, gd and others, the only problems I&#039;ve ever experienced in answering requests in full is when stuff has been lost. No department wants to admit to that, but it happens. The most striking thing about most of the material sent out is how boring and routine it is. New reporters and opposition MPs (two of the bigger customer groups) invariably expect some tale of scandal and incompetence, and very rarely find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan</p>
<p>This is my advice, as someone who has spent a fair bit of time answering OIAs (I&#8217;ve taken time off from reviewing one to type this).</p>
<p>1) Get address of relevant department<br />
2) Decide what information you are seeking<br />
3) Write a letter including the phrase &#8216;Under the Official Information Act, I request &#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>Pkiwi is correct in that any request for information is supposed to be answered bearing in mind the requirements of the OIA. However, in my department (unsure about others), OIAs have a separate filing and reporting stream to general correspondence, meaning that answers are more likely to be checked for completeness before mailing.</p>
<p>The important thing is deciding what to ask for. The more specific a request, the more likely it is to be met. Letters requesting (hypothetically) &#8216;any stuff about violence in the South Island&#8217; will get a &#8216;please clarify&#8217; response.</p>
<p>Contra Red, gd and others, the only problems I&#8217;ve ever experienced in answering requests in full is when stuff has been lost. No department wants to admit to that, but it happens. The most striking thing about most of the material sent out is how boring and routine it is. New reporters and opposition MPs (two of the bigger customer groups) invariably expect some tale of scandal and incompetence, and very rarely find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541391</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...that appalling thing about “Islam’s banned list” that he ran last week…&quot;

Just check it yourself before you accuse anyone:  http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/prohibitdex.htm
Almost impossible to believe in the 21st century, but that&#039;s Islam for you and appeasers of your ilk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;that appalling thing about “Islam’s banned list” that he ran last week…&#8221;</p>
<p>Just check it yourself before you accuse anyone:  <a href="http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/prohibitdex.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/prohibitdex.htm</a><br />
Almost impossible to believe in the 21st century, but that&#8217;s Islam for you and appeasers of your ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541388</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor frightened communist scum. Wimps make me sick. You are one scary moon module rat butter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor frightened communist scum. Wimps make me sick. You are one scary moon module rat butter.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541387</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He’s a good little blogosphere soldier that whaleoil, but some of his rants are just scary!&quot;

He&#039;s not little, he doesn&#039;t rant, and if you find his informative posts &quot;scary&quot;, then that&#039;s a good thing. You need to be scared commie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He’s a good little blogosphere soldier that whaleoil, but some of his rants are just scary!&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not little, he doesn&#8217;t rant, and if you find his informative posts &#8220;scary&#8221;, then that&#8217;s a good thing. You need to be scared commie.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541381</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graeme E Its only via whistleblowers that the taxpayers and citizens get to know the details of the grubby corrupt behaviour.

Problem is We dont know what we dont know but we do know that we peobably only get to see hear the tip of the iceberg.

I never cease to be amazed at the naiveity and innocence of the populus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme E Its only via whistleblowers that the taxpayers and citizens get to know the details of the grubby corrupt behaviour.</p>
<p>Problem is We dont know what we dont know but we do know that we peobably only get to see hear the tip of the iceberg.</p>
<p>I never cease to be amazed at the naiveity and innocence of the populus.</p>
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		<title>By: Ratbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541379</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a much better effort by whale oil than that appalling thing about &quot;Islam&#039;s banned list&quot; that he ran last week...

(He&#039;s a good little blogosphere soldier that whaleoil, but some of his rants are just scary!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a much better effort by whale oil than that appalling thing about &#8220;Islam&#8217;s banned list&#8221; that he ran last week&#8230;</p>
<p>(He&#8217;s a good little blogosphere soldier that whaleoil, but some of his rants are just scary!)</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541378</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPF:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Kudos to Whale Oil for submitting the OIA requests to expose this. More bloggers should do the same (including me).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah ... OIA.

Whaleoil:
&lt;blockquote&gt;This is based on a whole series of email correspondence related to the retrieval of the car which has fallen into my possession fifth hand via Beehive sources.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF:</p>
<blockquote><p>Kudos to Whale Oil for submitting the OIA requests to expose this. More bloggers should do the same (including me).</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah &#8230; OIA.</p>
<p>Whaleoil:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is based on a whole series of email correspondence related to the retrieval of the car which has fallen into my possession fifth hand via Beehive sources.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541377</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We asked about this and you misled us.&quot;

Funny ain&#039;t it, that an &quot;experienced&quot; reporter like Hayden Dewes (Dom Post Chief Reporter) apparently does not know any better than to take a bureaucrat at his word. 

Maybe this is why all we ever get from NZ&#039;s mainstream media is virtual government press releases with little searching into whether such releases are accurate or not. 

Today&#039;s journalists just don&#039;t seem to understand their job at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We asked about this and you misled us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny ain&#8217;t it, that an &#8220;experienced&#8221; reporter like Hayden Dewes (Dom Post Chief Reporter) apparently does not know any better than to take a bureaucrat at his word. </p>
<p>Maybe this is why all we ever get from NZ&#8217;s mainstream media is virtual government press releases with little searching into whether such releases are accurate or not. </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s journalists just don&#8217;t seem to understand their job at all.</p>
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		<title>By: pkiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541368</link>
		<dc:creator>pkiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What most people don&#039;t realise (incl. within govnt) is that any request for information is deemed to be, and has to be treated as an OIA even if you don&#039;t mention the OIA.  Would be interesting to ask the same request, first without referencing the OIA and then quoting it and see whether you get the same info!  The main issue, like with ministerials, is asking the right question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What most people don&#8217;t realise (incl. within govnt) is that any request for information is deemed to be, and has to be treated as an OIA even if you don&#8217;t mention the OIA.  Would be interesting to ask the same request, first without referencing the OIA and then quoting it and see whether you get the same info!  The main issue, like with ministerials, is asking the right question.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/03/dom_post_accuses_dia_of_mislading_it.html#comment-541366</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO the more depressing part of the current situation is the gut wrenching bad governance that we have been exposed to for the past 9 years.

At least we seem to be getting a little bit better standard but the report to date from gd  to JK is must try harder.

You do have a lot of work to do but you must get tough with these morons and bozos both in the public and the private sector.

they have been having a lend of us for far too long and need sorting out.

Change the employment laws if they are an impediemnt

The taxpayers will appauld you when they see the head on spikes of the CEOs in both sectors who have been guilty of the most appalling behaviour from waste in the publci sector to out and out fraud and theft as a servant in thr private sector

Come on JK you know you can do it Step up to the plate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO the more depressing part of the current situation is the gut wrenching bad governance that we have been exposed to for the past 9 years.</p>
<p>At least we seem to be getting a little bit better standard but the report to date from gd  to JK is must try harder.</p>
<p>You do have a lot of work to do but you must get tough with these morons and bozos both in the public and the private sector.</p>
<p>they have been having a lend of us for far too long and need sorting out.</p>
<p>Change the employment laws if they are an impediemnt</p>
<p>The taxpayers will appauld you when they see the head on spikes of the CEOs in both sectors who have been guilty of the most appalling behaviour from waste in the publci sector to out and out fraud and theft as a servant in thr private sector</p>
<p>Come on JK you know you can do it Step up to the plate</p>
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