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Aern’t we all pleased that our little country contributed funds to the UN in amounts nearly exceeding Australia.
Exactly in the area where Helen Clark wanted a plum job to continue her social engineering projects?
No wonder Mickey Savage is always so angry, rank amateur in comparison to corruption on this scale.
I would be amazed if Metal Mickey has more that $10k in free cash to his name. Oh, the politics of envy.
What Clark has pulled off, is one of the biggest heists in the Western World. It’s all about trust!
Look forward to reports as to her domestic arrangements. Surely Peter will be going over to see her new luxury apartment.
IF PD doesn’t go and visit, all those myths and legends will pop up gain.
Also lovely to see the MSM get a lot braver knowing that there won’t be threatening calls from H2 and her personal Stasi. Not very nice to have your career threatened, should your scribing be unsympathetic to the cause.
My own personal favourite was when the Wicked Witch of the South stated that she never threw mus, and within 8 seconds picked up and lobbed a huge dollop.
She will wield huge power at the UN. However the politics might get a bit heavy and dirty even for her.
I truly hopes that she gets a bloody nose. What goes around………
“IF PD doesn’t go and visit, all those myths and legends will pop up gain.”
And if they don’t pop up by themselves, you can be sure GM will give them the nudge needed. All the while denying he actually thinks they are true, ’cause he’s too chicken-shit scared of DPF piling demerits on him. What a douche.
AG, I hope the Klark swindle ends in grief, because she has made a mockery of kiwi integrity and decency. How the witch can utter the word trust from those evil lips is beyond my understanding. Why doesn’t the lickspittle media challenge her? Whoever said kiwis are mushrooms grown in the dark and fed bullshit was bloody well right. What a disgusting role model for future generations. If the truth doesn’t fit well then I accept all consequences. How can a Nation build a solid foundation when Prime Ministers are nothing more than a sham.What a shame!!
Just like the cowed journalists, and editors who were continually harangued by the feminazis.
For the record AG, in my opinion that marriage is sham and our dearly beloved has hypocritically engaged in numerous and multiple relationships.
Mind you the information, and evidence is probably suspect as it came from a policeperson on protection duties. Who also was thrilled to be given other duties after 3 years.
“How can a Nation build a solid foundation when Prime Ministers are nothing more than a sham.”
I don’t think it’s nice to talk about John Key this way. You are aware of the recent change in government? To quote a Clarkism, it’s time to move on. She certainly has.
New topic … charging 5 cents per plastic bag. This is a good idea. But is it a tax?
“New topic … charging 5 cents per plastic bag. This is a good idea. But is it a tax?”
No, it’s not a good idea but another bloody tax. We should fight against this moronic and lunatic initiative being floated.
Who is the Luddite behind this?
Manolo, yes it’s a tax and a stupid one. Everyone I know re-uses supermarket bags as bin-liners or for picking up after their dogs…so there will be trumpeting of “success” as the number of supermarket bags used decreases, meanwhile sales of bin-liners at <5c ea go up along with the amount of dog crap on the pavements of our city…stupid, stupid, stupid…
Strange how the PD reference makes you so prickly.
Wonder which box he would tick under moral turpitude?
Frankly, I don’t give a toss about an effete Professor whose grant money was boosted in very lucky ways.
Neither do I care that they live in different places.
Not bothered about anyone’s sexual orientation between consenting adults.
I do have a problem with predatory paedophiles, and bestiality advocates.
My disgust was the sheer nepotism of the Lesbian Coven in the last Administration. Their despotic, and callous methods.
Then the cynical beat up on Don Brash. Remember private lives were meant to be private. Not in their world, as he constituted a clear and present threat. One that precipitated an even larger donation to the right parts of the UN. (Undeclared to us)
The sisterhood amazed themselves with the power that they found they were able to wield whilst everyone else stood back aghast.
It was planned to perfection, police, disable military, drop Privy Council, retrospectively amend laws. (Impossible in English Law),
Milk the unions of extra funds whilst plotting to fund their apparatus on the tax-payer.
Then we move to the honest and man of integrity. One Winston Peters. Shameless, and unapologetic when caught with his hand in the till.
Why, because he had the information to unravel all the Coven’s plans. And still has.
If HC’s UN salary is tax free in the US, and, if she maintains a permanent establishment in the form af the family home (principal place of residence) in NZ, (inhabited by no other than her lawfully wedded husband no less), Does the UN salary get taxed in NZ?
OR does she nicely cop US$500,000 net in New York and as a “non-resident” after 160 days away qualify for 15% flat tax on NZ income for as long as she is away?
AND
How does this fit with “to each according to her needs and from each according to her ability to pay” ???????
Inventory2 said: So, Judith “Crusher” Collins wasn’t just making empty threats eh greenfly
You seem to have an unhealthy fascination for Ms Collins, Inventory2!
Her threats are still only that. We shall see. She’s talking about crushing the cars of recidivist boy racers. What a powerful message from the government. What a piddling response to the current situation, crush the cars of a few hoons. Now Nick Smith wants to slap a new tax on us all. A plasic bag tax, no less. This is earth-shattering stuff from National!
“Now Nick Smith wants to slap a new tax on us all”
Lies never worry the left. Their whole life is a lie. They lie here daily and they lie to themselves perpetually. Here’s Greenblowfly, another leftist liar and otherwise worthless nondescript mentally damaged attention seeking baboon lying about Smith and taxes on plastic bags.
What Smith really said-
“In a letter to Mr Ho, Environment Minister Nick Smith said the ministry was investigating the effectiveness and feasibility of a levy on plastic bags.”
“..“In a letter to Mr Ho, Environment Minister Nick Smith said the ministry was investigating the effectiveness and feasibility of a levy on plastic bags.”
Glutaemus Maximus (1550) Vote: Add rating3 Subtract rating 0 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 8:58 am
“…….Frankly, I don’t give a toss about an effete Professor whose grant money was boosted in very lucky ways.
Neither do I care that they live in different places.
Not bothered about anyone’s sexual orientation between consenting adults.
I do have a problem with predatory paedophiles, and bestiality advocates.
My disgust was the sheer nepotism of the Lesbian Coven in the last Administration. Their despotic, and callous methods…..”
Glutaemus, you are onto it.
I said this back on Feb 27, in response to Zippy Gonzales dragging Graeme Capill into the argument:
Every time some slimy antichristian liberal throws Graham Capill at us, I am going to say THIS:
Graham Capill’s chances of political rehabilitation in the next decade or three, stem entirely from the continued success of the cancerous advance of slimy secular antichristian moral relativist liberalism. It is YOU lot who are the natural political home and refuge for the “man-boy love association” slimeballs and the Kinseyite creeps. Don’t think there aren’t people in your political parties and stacked bureaucracies who aren’t beavering away to this end. And it will be the “Christian Fundamentalists” who will fight these people every inch of the way, and it will be the “Christian fundamentalists” who will always condemn what Graham Capill did irrespective of what perversion YOUR team succeeds in bringing to the moral judgements of “mainstream” society meanwhile.
“Greenpeace wants to know who is responsible for a poll on New Zealand’s nuclear-free legislation.
The Oceania Customer Interaction Service has been gauging public opinion on letting nuclear powered ships back into our waters. The government claims it knows nothing about the questionnaire.
Greenpeace executive director Bunny McDiarmid says there is a long history of the National party not being completely in tune with New Zealand having nuclear free legislation. But she believes John Key’s Government remains committed to global nuclear disarmament.”
Personally, I hope that people like Professor Paul Callaghan from Vic Uni are starting to fight back on this Luddite nonsense which makes NZ more and more of an international laughing stock the longer we persist with it. It was just disgraceful that this man, one of the best living New Zealanders, was not included in the jobs summit, and it is disgraceful that “New Zealand’s brightest minds” (in the words of the Somers Commission) have been so ignored. So much for all the “knowledge economy” verbiage.
More evidence that Nick Smith should piss off and join the Greens or Labour, it does not matter what your political persuasion is there is no other way to describe what Smith is proposing other than to call it what it bloody well is….A TAX.
The centrist/socialist way of dealing with a perceived problem is to treat everybody as a fucking idiot, I do not waste plastic bags, I am not the cause of the problem (if a problem actually exists) and not one plastic bag in our house goes to “waste” they are all recycled so why the hell should I be penalised because of a problem that may or may not exist.
Nevertheless, I have a plan, Mrs Bruv and I have one big shop a month, the rest of the stuff we need we pick up as and when we require it.
If the Nat’s do bring in this TAX then I will go to my local supermarket on a Friday afternoon (the busiest time of the week) to do my monthly shop, when the checkout operator attempts to charge me for plastic bags I will refuse to pay for anything other than the goods I have purchased, of course this will create some what of a disturbance and no doubt the duty manager will be called.
I will stand my ground as I am sure will the manager, as the crowd grows behind me and tempers start to fray I will propose a compromise, unless they give me plastic bags then they will have to bloody well wait for me to carry out my groceries by hand.
“…I will refuse to pay for anything other than the goods I have purchased, of course this will create some what of a disturbance and no doubt the duty manager will be called.”
Why is a plastic bag not a “good”? Do you expect to be given something for nothing? You right-wingers, with your bloody sense of entitlement …
“He’s already paid for the bag in his grocery purchases.”
In which case, the Supermarket is profiting off the decision of those of us who bring our own bags/reuse plastic bags. And anyway, the Supermarket is externalising the costs of cleaning up/disposing of plastic bags onto the ratepayer. So bb (and all other shoppers, whether they use plastic bags or not) has only “paid” for part of the total cost of the good.
No such thing as a free bag, reddy. That’s econ 101.
in the article we can see that plastic bags represent .2% of our waste
now if we then allow for the re-use of these bags eg binliners, then the likelihood of this actually making a significant difference is nil as I know that in our houseold for instance we would need to either a) purchase replacements for other use or b) pay the 5 cents – so we *may* reduce plastic bag use – but I struggle to see by much – we could always look at the biggest component of the other 99.8% – low hanging fruit and all that
Redbaiter – your hot-headed, ill-considered comments do ‘your’ side no favours. We on the left love you for it though. Keep up the good work!
Big Bro – your comments contrast strongly with Red’s and make him sound gormless.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
“You right-wingers, with your bloody sense of entitlement …”
You idiot left wingers and your childish misconceptions regarding things that are “free”.
He’s already paid for the bag in his grocery purchases.
Is that because the shop pays for the bags and accounts for them as part of their overheads? They do the same with stock shrinkage, so IF I steal an item, have I also paid for it along with my purchases? Adds whole new meaning to 5 finger discount.
It is a matter of choice, if you shop at pak n save then you know you are going to have to pay for your plastic bags, they (pak n save) price their products accordingly however nothing on the face of this earth would make me shop in their stores.
If I wanted to mix with that type of crowd then I would go to a bloody game of rugby league.
We who refuse to shop at pak n save pay for our plastic bags AG, only pinko’s seem to think they are “free”.
“You sad arrogant non comprehending waste of space. That was your implication not mine.”
errr … no. It was (and still seems to be) bigbruv’s. Maybe you could sit him down and explain the concept of “externalities”. You might also want to counsel him on his arrogance problem, too, given his views that “If I wanted to mix with that type of crowd then I would go to a bloody game of rugby league.”
You right-wingers and your hatred of ordinary people. Makes me sad. Really sad.
I would argue that the production and use of plastic bags seriously hinders the development of better alternatives. 2009 is the ‘Year of the Natural Fibre’. There is tremendous potential for development here, providing ‘we’ can loosen our grip/dependence on synthetic ‘solutions’. Harakeke is gold (if we utilise it!).
If a retailer chooses to set up their business in a way that charges for individual components, and I choose to but form them then I have no problem paying for plastic bags. I do have a problem paying a tax on them – other than GST.
greenfly said “Her threats are still only that. We shall see. She’s talking about crushing the cars of recidivist boy racers. What a powerful message from the government. What a piddling response to the current situation, crush the cars of a few hoons.”
I agree greenfly – it IS a powerful message from the government, especially if Clayton Cosgrove is recruited as a cheerleader, and both the main parties support the proposed legislation.
What you fail to mention is that these “few hoons” have no respect whatsoever for the law, the government, the police, the judiciary, or you and I. Massive fines bills don’t faze them, nor does disqualification from driving. They are above the law, in their own world-view. A creative solution is called for, and destroying the possession they value the most, which has become the conduit for their offending is entirely logical IMHO.
While exporting sounds like a good idea I am not sure who would take them, we are already the dumping ground for cars that the rest of the world do not want.
Apparently we have been spelling Wanganui incorrectly for the past 170 years – it spelling should be Whanganui in accordance with the pre European Maori usage of the Latin alphabet.
We will now have “public consultation” on what to do about it. Perhaps thats a good way of spending some of the 50 million dollars that a 5c levy on each of the billion plastic bags we use annually would raise.
An “h” in Wanganui…..well now that we have that sorted I wonder what the Maori party and the Willie Jackson’s of this world have planned to take the spotlight off the child killing epidemic within the Maori community.
Mind you, I would suggest that the “h” debate has a long way to go yet.
let’s present the stats differently – the average supermarket bag weighs less than 5 gm but let’s call it 5 gm. If there are a billion bags each year (big scary number that) then the average person uses about 5 bags a week – so we will save 25 gm of waste a week per person or less than an actual ounce (very small not very scary number).
I just you gave all a big hug wrapping my arms around my screen as I feel the need to share my warm fuzzies – b***dy polar bear bit me though – ungrateful sod!
Greenfly, I would love to see you or any of your Luddite colleagues in a fair and open debate with Professor Paul Callaghan on just about any issue, but especially the nuclear one. Follow that link to the video of Prof. Callaghan presenting his “Beyond the Farm and Theme Park” talk. He is the man we should be listening to about the future direction of the country, not a bunch of neo-Marxist anti-social sandal-wearing pot-head Gaia worshipping Luddite back to the caves activists.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Ian Wishart in “Absolute Power” did say that what IS conclusively known is that Prof. Peter Davis appeared and spoke at some convention in the USA without appearing in any customs/inbound-outbound records. A scandal could justifiably have been made of that, but Wishart said that the fact that Davis had been victimised by extreme smears that were untrue, meant that the real scandal died a natural death instead of becoming “diplomatic-cover-gate” (in addition to all Helen’s other “-gate” scandals) as it should have.
It is our shamelessly biased news media who are responsible for never giving Prof. Paul Callaghan and all the rest of “NZ’s brightest minds” a fair hearing. They are responsible for a LOT, when it comes to the wrong direction this country has been headed in for so many years now.
No doubt the judge will give him another chance. I’m still trying to work out what the judge said after last weeks court appearance, I thought he had his last chance well over a month ago. No wonder he takes nothing seriously.
In my opinion he should be castrated, that would take some of the fight out of him. Works for dogs anyway.
Oops! Caught out by the lack of edit function!
Jack – agreed re conventionally raised cotton. It’s a disgrace. ‘Organically’ raised cotton is an improvement, but still falls short. Hemp, of course, is vastly superior, especially in the way it can be grown without the nasty pest/herbacides you allude to with your cotton comment. Don’t agree however, that baby seal fur damages the environment.
PhilBest – you’d love to see… a bunch of neo-Marxist anti-social sandal-wearing pot-head Gaia worshipping Luddite back to the caves activists in discussion with Professor Paul Callaghan. Not a great way to get them interested, all that abuse, don’t you think?
slijmbal the average supermarket bag weighs less than 5 gm blah, blah..tell it to Nick Smith, your new Nanny.
Inventory2 – if you regard Collins’ ‘message’ as a powerful one, then you are taking things a little too seriously. Crunch, crunch! She failed to crunch the Corrections boss, now she’s lowered her sights about as far as they can go, to the level of some louts in noisy cars and you are encouraged by that level of governance? Guess you are for the plastic bag ban as well. That’ll stamp the authority of the National Government on the people alright!
“2009 is the ‘Year of the Natural Fibre’. There is tremendous potential for development here, providing ‘we’ can loosen our grip/dependence on synthetic ’solutions’. ”
Well, are you talking about the same synthetic components that have helped progress over the past one hundred years?
Your advocacy of natural fibres is commendable, but why the need to demonise other options?
It appears to be a common trait of one-eyed Luddites, the fundamentalists, who want to impose their “medieval cart-and-horse” views.
Fortunately, progress is unstoppable and despite your lack of belief in civilisation someone will come up with the solution to this and other problems.
I could say something to you greenflee, but I won’t as I am walking on the thin line regarding a 4 month punishment ban. I bet Trevor Mallard is happy that politicians don’t receive demerits. Sorry but couldn’t resist the double standard.
While exporting sounds like a good idea I am not sure who would take them, we are already the dumping ground for cars that the rest of the world do not want.
Hmmm perhaps. It just seems like a waste of a potentially valuable resource. Ok, give the cars to me. I’ll set up a charity that exports them, and see that 100% of the profits are distributed to worthwhile NZ charities.
Manolo said: Your advocacy of natural fibres is commendable, but why the need to demonise other options?
Thank you for the commendation, Manolo. In answer to your question re ‘demonising’, how me where I did that and I’d be happy to discuss the ‘demonising’, (if you have any evidence. Not just blowing, are you?)
Exporting the cars of convicted boy racers would be more economically efficient. But it would be less effective as a deterrent to the perpetrators. Watching your car (or one of your mates’) get crushed on TV might be more effective. We can hope.
# greenfly Says:
s.russell – crushed car = badge of honour (mark my words).
Ratbiter thinks not. Even after your pimped out little car is crushed, the H.P. payments go on… Boy racers detest the 28 day confiscations, so crushing the cars would be a further step in the right direction IMHO.
Some may have expensive aftermarket go-faster components, but in any large-scale crushing campaign I doubt it would be economical to strip these for resale before crushing takes place.
It is our shamelessly biased news media who are responsible for never giving Prof. Paul Callaghan and all the rest of “NZ’s brightest minds” a fair hearing
Does dozens of radio appearances on Radio New Zealand/National Radio not count as the news media?
Willie Jackson is having a field day with the restoration of the ‘H’ and is delighting the Michael Laws has gotten a much deserved ‘carrot up his nose’ over the name change. ‘ow ‘orrible!
big bruv – we’ve already had several name changes for these islands we live on. Ever wondered why we are so happy to carry the name of some obscure part of the Netherlands as our title? Zealand for God’s sake!
As to the crunching of the cars – while I don’t think it will a. happen and b. work, I do think it would be great to watch and I would have no sympathy at all for the noise-makers. How about effective and policed noise restrictions though I’m expecting you to immediately bleat about the Greens wanting to BAN loud noises (but isn’t that what you want also, and Collins, and the Nats and the good folk of Aotearoa
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
So you think we should change the name of our country then?, I wonder what name we may use?.
As for the boy racer problem…your idea will not work, you seem to think that these scum bags will take a blind bit of notice when a noise officer turns up.
Keep trying Greenfly, I want to hear your solution to this problem.
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
[DPF: Try to cut down on calling people fwits please]
..and like all such neurotic fuckwits, you view gummint and the law as the solution to every perceived problem, even when the simple and effective solution would be a return to the standards of personal morality that in your sad sick adherence to moral relativism, you hate so intensely.
greenflee, why should I say a thing as SIR redbaiter has just delivered a right arm over the wicket extremely witty delivery with his “neurotic” comment. Splendid middle stump post.
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
[DPF: Try to cut down on calling people fwits please]
Your blog, your rules, but I wonder why redbaiter never attracts demerits. Almost every post he makes drips with venom and insult.
[DPF: Redbaiter's posting style does cause problems, and personally I prefer he tones it down. However unlike many his intention is not to troll. He mainly posts on topic and has a legitimate world view around not appeasing socialism etc. and reflects that in his comments. And he generally responds to a warning, so a warning will suffice.]
MNIJ – quite the reverse (which you know…). The left is all for increasing state control over every aspect of our lives. JK will let me spend my tax cut on what works best for me. Meanwhile the left would have dictated which light-bulb I could use, the strength of my shower, the number of kids i could have … and what my daughter could buy at the school tuck shop.
I just want you chaps in the Green party to have the best possible chance of being part of the next government, accordingly I think you should promote Sue Bradford to the co-leaders position, campaign on the anti smacking laws and also campaign on changing the name of New Zealand to something Maori.
bigbruv and getstuffed, funny but I don’t seem to recall a leftist government attempting to force me in to the army. Saying they know better than me about where I should work is a biggie, I would have thought. In similar vein, it is not leftie govts that want to run “work for the dole” schemes either. That is another preserve of the right, the theft a Man’s labour without proper recompense is the most heinous crime any government can commit.
[DPF: No one has to do work for the dole. You just don't get the dole (funded from the theft of my labour) if you don't]
March 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I don’t know about that GM, but I bet one book called “Absolute Power” is not gathering dust on her bookshelves.
I doubt she could be bothered with Wishart, I can’t be, except to see how stupid he becomes as he ages.
Seen his lates”? God now causes plane crashes to punish abortionists. And just like the god of old, this bastard doesn’t just punish the guilty, oh no, he also goes for their children.
The Motorcycle Diaries? Awhitewash of the psychopathic murderer Che Guevera. Yes, how unsurprising-
Some quotes from the cowardly swine. Remind you of anybody?
“my friends are friends as long as they think like me, politically.”
and further..
“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary…These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall!
“Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!”
“Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become … ”
“That is another preserve of the right, the theft a Man’s labour without proper recompense is the most heinous crime any government can commit.”
I totally agree with you about it being a heinous crime, while I do not think it is the “most heinous” it is right up there.
So how about we do not reward “a man” if he does not work or labour for his money?.
And please, tell me what right wing government has attempted to force you into the army? or forced you to move for work.
While you are at it, can you tell me what is honourable about stealing money from a mans hard won pay packet to give out to those who do not want to work.
I note that Chester Burrows is right behind the name change for Wanganui, no doubt this is another sop to the racist apartheid party and another part of the coalition agreement.
Key is making a big mistake here, he would do well to remember the bounce that Don Brash got in popular support when he told the truth about Maori.
If there is any latitude show here it is towards the left, and made even more remarkable that in almost every instance of a leftist posting here, their contributions are so infantile, unsophisticated, dogmatic, uninformed and just plain dumb, they’re a serious turn off to anyone who wants to read anything challenging and/or informative.
If I was Mr. Farrar, I would seriously consider limiting the prolific output of children like Ratbitter, MYnameisJerkoff, Greenblowfly, Philuseless, AGatha and others of their boring but vocal ilk on the grounds that they’re combined output of Marxist drivel, smears, false allegations, re-writes of history, moral relativity and general all round commie bullshit make this site almost unreadable.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
“And just like the god of old, this bastard doesn’t just punish the guilty, oh no, he also goes for their children.”
You should fall to your knees and thank G_d that you live in a country that allows you to express the free will he gave you.
I agree with getstaffed, you really do seem like a person that is filled with hate for your fellow man. It is sad.
It is because i love my fellow man that i hate what the god botherers try to do to us. You can spend all the time you want on your knees craig, just don’t expect the rest of us to follow your bloodthirsty myths.
You should fall to your knees and thank G_d that you live in a country that allows you to express the free will he gave you.
Has a lot more to do with the secular founders and secular people of today that with any god botherer myths. Religion steals Man’s life and withers his soul.
Far too easy really. Just wind it up and watch it go.
On another topic: Obama is off to G20.
“With an entourage of 500 staff, an armour-plated limousine and a fleet of decoy helicopters, America’s new president will arrive for his first visit to Britain amid huge razzmatazz on Tuesday for the G20 summit….”
Now, add the other 19 leaders and lets start counting carbon footprints shall we.
Man, I’m glad some people turned turned their lights off for an hour on Saturday.
Funny how all you god botheres scream “HATE” when someone dares criticise your myths, points to the clay feet of your god(s) and challenges your beliefs.
It is not hate to point out the stupidity of religion and its followers.
But dad, feel free to keep worshipping a child murderer if that’s what spins your wheels. Just don’t expect me to follow you.
“Funny how all you god botheres scream “HATE” when someone dares criticise your myths,..”
Not all of us scream hate. Loose generalisation that is at the heart of most of your posts.
“…points to the clay feet of your god(s) and challenges your beliefs.”
You couldn’t challenge my beliefs if you tried. I find your rantings incredibly sad.
“It is not hate to point out the stupidity of religion and its followers.”
Correct, it is not. The hate comes through in the way you do it & the things you say.
I’d like to think that I can tell you I disagree with you, without getting nasty, calling you names and critising your beliefs. Yes Jack, even your non-belief is a belief of sorts. You spew forth venom and hatred for no purpose other than to ridicule and abuse.
BRUV:::::::::::::Perhaps Maori could use the new spelling in their language while it remains the same for the rest of us…A bit harder will be the new name for the Auckland super city. I heard today it was to be named Tamaki Makaroa or similar.
Car Crushing……….Apparently it is only to be a final option at a Judges Discretion…..The boy racer will be an old age pensioner before all the judicial process, various inquiries and reports and appeals are completed even if you could find a Judge with the balls to order it.
This is the real world, those need money and do not work for it should go without.
If Jack wants me to give money to low life so they can get pissed and kill their kids then the bastards should be made to work for it or receive nothing.
Its OK to terrify children with tales of hellfire and damnation, but its not OK to call the people who tell those tales monsters.
Its OK to make laws based on the writings a desert cult from 2000 years ago, but it is not OK to criticise those who would make those laws.
Its OK to claim (as Ian Wishart does) that god punishes children for the sins of their fathers, but it is not OK to point out the bloodthirsty nature of a god that would do that?
It is OK to kill in god’s name while all the time preaching god is love.
Yeah, I forgot my manners – religion is too fragile to be criticised.
David at 9.00 a.m.
That question has intrigued me.
Especially as the lawfully wedded hubby is back in New Zealand.
I have seen New Zealand born Saudi Arabia nurses caught like this for N.Z. tax on their foreign income. That was because they had not done everything to lose their NZ tax residency status. Things like having a New Zealand credit card and retaining long term membership of the Tennis Club were sufficient to provide that nexus to make their world wide income taxable in NZ. Of course, they get a credit for tax paid overseas, but when the tax rate is only 3%, that is stuff all.
“Thus proving that B Hussein Messiah Obama is indeed a dictator.”
More than that, he’s a thug and a dictator with his use of standover tactics to force companies to comply with his edicts.
Such as Cuomo’s threat to publicly name the AIG executives (he’d received a confidential list) who received bonuses unless they returned them, and this threat was made after public threats to kill had been issued.
This is just straight out Bolshevik thuggery.
For government officials to behave in such a gangsterish manner and receive no censure from America’s media is unbelievable really.
And this is the point that is being missed – like it or not El Presidente’ is only Dear Leader in another variation – a fact that is never ever mentioned (or even questioned. . .)
And what is really. really sad, is that the locals think he is the sun, moon and stars all in one package (the Messiah to some)!
They will, I guess, eventually learn the sad and grim realities of the man and his policies (just as all us Kiwi’s did as a result of DL’s dictatorship).
Yes, it is very orchestrated and very deliberate – especially when you consider that the UN Charter has references to a ‘One World order’ and DL and her mates (sic) are hell-bent on creating it, although observation indicates that they are merely the (very willing and well rewarded) puppets for what is coming into play.
The interesting thing is that I don’t think that the arrival of the order will be spectacular – it will be delibrately arranged to ‘sneak-up’- on us and will be complete before the majority are aware it has arrived.
It will of course be very skillfully presented as being advantageous for (almost) everybody, and while the majority will welcome it, some (especially Christians and Jews) will be aware of its implications and make appropriate responses.
“Redbaiter
For government officials to behave in such a gangsterish manner and receive no censure from America’s media is unbelievable really.”
Censure, from the media? what the fuck do you think your talking about? The medias job is to report the news, not go around making moral judgements on people. “We report, you decide” or what ever that fox slogan (just don’t lie like they do!) is, you thick fuck.
March 30th, 2009 at 8:03 am
So, Judith “Crusher” Collins wasn’t just making empty threats eh greenfly
http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2009/03/crushing-news-for-boy-racers.html
And better still, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Labour may support the legislation!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Aern’t we all pleased that our little country contributed funds to the UN in amounts nearly exceeding Australia.
Exactly in the area where Helen Clark wanted a plum job to continue her social engineering projects?
No wonder Mickey Savage is always so angry, rank amateur in comparison to corruption on this scale.
I would be amazed if Metal Mickey has more that $10k in free cash to his name. Oh, the politics of envy.
What Clark has pulled off, is one of the biggest heists in the Western World. It’s all about trust!
Look forward to reports as to her domestic arrangements. Surely Peter will be going over to see her new luxury apartment.
IF PD doesn’t go and visit, all those myths and legends will pop up gain.
Also lovely to see the MSM get a lot braver knowing that there won’t be threatening calls from H2 and her personal Stasi. Not very nice to have your career threatened, should your scribing be unsympathetic to the cause.
My own personal favourite was when the Wicked Witch of the South stated that she never threw mus, and within 8 seconds picked up and lobbed a huge dollop.
She will wield huge power at the UN. However the politics might get a bit heavy and dirty even for her.
I truly hopes that she gets a bloody nose. What goes around………
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:16 am
“IF PD doesn’t go and visit, all those myths and legends will pop up gain.”
And if they don’t pop up by themselves, you can be sure GM will give them the nudge needed. All the while denying he actually thinks they are true, ’cause he’s too chicken-shit scared of DPF piling demerits on him. What a douche.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:26 am
What happened to the Edit function? – seems to have disappeared from my Kiwiblog session.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:28 am
AG, I hope the Klark swindle ends in grief, because she has made a mockery of kiwi integrity and decency. How the witch can utter the word trust from those evil lips is beyond my understanding. Why doesn’t the lickspittle media challenge her? Whoever said kiwis are mushrooms grown in the dark and fed bullshit was bloody well right. What a disgusting role model for future generations. If the truth doesn’t fit well then I accept all consequences. How can a Nation build a solid foundation when Prime Ministers are nothing more than a sham.What a shame!!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:30 am
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/2300724/Trial-of-Pol-Pot-henchman-begins
Perhaps Keith Locke could appear as a witness for the defence
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Brian, I noticed the same thing yesterday. Odd
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Just like the cowed journalists, and editors who were continually harangued by the feminazis.
For the record AG, in my opinion that marriage is sham and our dearly beloved has hypocritically engaged in numerous and multiple relationships.
Mind you the information, and evidence is probably suspect as it came from a policeperson on protection duties. Who also was thrilled to be given other duties after 3 years.
de-merits please.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:31 am
“How can a Nation build a solid foundation when Prime Ministers are nothing more than a sham.”
I don’t think it’s nice to talk about John Key this way. You are aware of the recent change in government? To quote a Clarkism, it’s time to move on. She certainly has.
New topic … charging 5 cents per plastic bag. This is a good idea. But is it a tax?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Talking about “policeperson on protection duties” -will Helen catch with Sandra in New York. Kiwi gals in the big apple? I feel sick now.
Dam I miss the edit – yeah right !
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:34 am
GM,
“numerous AND multiple relationships”, no less! With humans, animals and inanimate objects! All at the same time!!
You sure you’re not confusing your DVD collection for real life?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Whatever is your opinion AG?
Only the progressive left know the truth.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Everybody knows the truth. Once again how can a Nation cover such a lie?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:39 am
“New topic … charging 5 cents per plastic bag. This is a good idea. But is it a tax?”
No, it’s not a good idea but another bloody tax. We should fight against this moronic and lunatic initiative being floated.
Vote:Who is the Luddite behind this?
March 30th, 2009 at 8:40 am
AG – do us all a big favour and put a plastic bag on your head.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:43 am
All correct, but have no knowledge of any animals. H2 is human isn’t she?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:44 am
GM ; Is H2 the dreaded April fool computer virus?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Manolo, yes it’s a tax and a stupid one. Everyone I know re-uses supermarket bags as bin-liners or for picking up after their dogs…so there will be trumpeting of “success” as the number of supermarket bags used decreases, meanwhile sales of bin-liners at <5c ea go up along with the amount of dog crap on the pavements of our city…stupid, stupid, stupid…
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:57 am
AG
Helen, while married to Peter, screwed an entire country!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Strange how the PD reference makes you so prickly.
Wonder which box he would tick under moral turpitude?
Frankly, I don’t give a toss about an effete Professor whose grant money was boosted in very lucky ways.
Neither do I care that they live in different places.
Not bothered about anyone’s sexual orientation between consenting adults.
I do have a problem with predatory paedophiles, and bestiality advocates.
My disgust was the sheer nepotism of the Lesbian Coven in the last Administration. Their despotic, and callous methods.
Then the cynical beat up on Don Brash. Remember private lives were meant to be private. Not in their world, as he constituted a clear and present threat. One that precipitated an even larger donation to the right parts of the UN. (Undeclared to us)
The sisterhood amazed themselves with the power that they found they were able to wield whilst everyone else stood back aghast.
It was planned to perfection, police, disable military, drop Privy Council, retrospectively amend laws. (Impossible in English Law),
Milk the unions of extra funds whilst plotting to fund their apparatus on the tax-payer.
Then we move to the honest and man of integrity. One Winston Peters. Shameless, and unapologetic when caught with his hand in the till.
Why, because he had the information to unravel all the Coven’s plans. And still has.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Question for any tax experts.
If HC’s UN salary is tax free in the US, and, if she maintains a permanent establishment in the form af the family home (principal place of residence) in NZ, (inhabited by no other than her lawfully wedded husband no less), Does the UN salary get taxed in NZ?
OR does she nicely cop US$500,000 net in New York and as a “non-resident” after 160 days away qualify for 15% flat tax on NZ income for as long as she is away?
AND
How does this fit with “to each according to her needs and from each according to her ability to pay” ???????
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Any further references to Davis will get deleted. Or to Clark’s alleged love life.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Tax is payable on worldwide income, dividends, and certain capital gains.
There should be tax payable back to the IRD here. But I suspect it will negotiated.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Inventory2 said: So, Judith “Crusher” Collins wasn’t just making empty threats eh greenfly
You seem to have an unhealthy fascination for Ms Collins, Inventory2!
Vote:Her threats are still only that. We shall see. She’s talking about crushing the cars of recidivist boy racers. What a powerful message from the government. What a piddling response to the current situation, crush the cars of a few hoons. Now Nick Smith wants to slap a new tax on us all. A plasic bag tax, no less. This is earth-shattering stuff from National!
March 30th, 2009 at 9:48 am
“Now Nick Smith wants to slap a new tax on us all”
Lies never worry the left. Their whole life is a lie. They lie here daily and they lie to themselves perpetually. Here’s Greenblowfly, another leftist liar and otherwise worthless nondescript mentally damaged attention seeking baboon lying about Smith and taxes on plastic bags.
What Smith really said-
“In a letter to Mr Ho, Environment Minister Nick Smith said the ministry was investigating the effectiveness and feasibility of a levy on plastic bags.”
No indication there of what Nick Smith wants.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The supermarkets I go to regularly give me far more plastic bags than I can use. So I take them back and use them again.
Why should I subsidise people who throw those bags away, use them for dog poo, or wrap German Parliamentary buildings with them?
If you want a plastic bag at the supermarket you should pay for it same as you pay for butter, milk and dog biscuits.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
“..“In a letter to Mr Ho, Environment Minister Nick Smith said the ministry was investigating the effectiveness and feasibility of a levy on plastic bags.”
No indication there of what Nick Smith wants..”
um..!..red.(.commie..!..blah!..blah!) baiter..
do you still believe in the tooth fairy..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Glutaemus Maximus (1550) Vote: Add rating3 Subtract rating 0 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 8:58 am
“…….Frankly, I don’t give a toss about an effete Professor whose grant money was boosted in very lucky ways.
Neither do I care that they live in different places.
Not bothered about anyone’s sexual orientation between consenting adults.
I do have a problem with predatory paedophiles, and bestiality advocates.
My disgust was the sheer nepotism of the Lesbian Coven in the last Administration. Their despotic, and callous methods…..”
Glutaemus, you are onto it.
I said this back on Feb 27, in response to Zippy Gonzales dragging Graeme Capill into the argument:
Every time some slimy antichristian liberal throws Graham Capill at us, I am going to say THIS:
Graham Capill’s chances of political rehabilitation in the next decade or three, stem entirely from the continued success of the cancerous advance of slimy secular antichristian moral relativist liberalism. It is YOU lot who are the natural political home and refuge for the “man-boy love association” slimeballs and the Kinseyite creeps. Don’t think there aren’t people in your political parties and stacked bureaucracies who aren’t beavering away to this end. And it will be the “Christian Fundamentalists” who will fight these people every inch of the way, and it will be the “Christian fundamentalists” who will always condemn what Graham Capill did irrespective of what perversion YOUR team succeeds in bringing to the moral judgements of “mainstream” society meanwhile.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:26 am
From Telstra Clear News:
“Greenpeace wants to know who is responsible for a poll on New Zealand’s nuclear-free legislation.
The Oceania Customer Interaction Service has been gauging public opinion on letting nuclear powered ships back into our waters. The government claims it knows nothing about the questionnaire.
Greenpeace executive director Bunny McDiarmid says there is a long history of the National party not being completely in tune with New Zealand having nuclear free legislation. But she believes John Key’s Government remains committed to global nuclear disarmament.”
Personally, I hope that people like Professor Paul Callaghan from Vic Uni are starting to fight back on this Luddite nonsense which makes NZ more and more of an international laughing stock the longer we persist with it. It was just disgraceful that this man, one of the best living New Zealanders, was not included in the jobs summit, and it is disgraceful that “New Zealand’s brightest minds” (in the words of the Somers Commission) have been so ignored. So much for all the “knowledge economy” verbiage.
http://macdiarmid.ac.nz/news/video/rsnz.php
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:27 am
FFS!
More evidence that Nick Smith should piss off and join the Greens or Labour, it does not matter what your political persuasion is there is no other way to describe what Smith is proposing other than to call it what it bloody well is….A TAX.
The centrist/socialist way of dealing with a perceived problem is to treat everybody as a fucking idiot, I do not waste plastic bags, I am not the cause of the problem (if a problem actually exists) and not one plastic bag in our house goes to “waste” they are all recycled so why the hell should I be penalised because of a problem that may or may not exist.
Nevertheless, I have a plan, Mrs Bruv and I have one big shop a month, the rest of the stuff we need we pick up as and when we require it.
If the Nat’s do bring in this TAX then I will go to my local supermarket on a Friday afternoon (the busiest time of the week) to do my monthly shop, when the checkout operator attempts to charge me for plastic bags I will refuse to pay for anything other than the goods I have purchased, of course this will create some what of a disturbance and no doubt the duty manager will be called.
I will stand my ground as I am sure will the manager, as the crowd grows behind me and tempers start to fray I will propose a compromise, unless they give me plastic bags then they will have to bloody well wait for me to carry out my groceries by hand.
Civil disobedience is not only for the left!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:31 am
BB,
“…I will refuse to pay for anything other than the goods I have purchased, of course this will create some what of a disturbance and no doubt the duty manager will be called.”
Why is a plastic bag not a “good”? Do you expect to be given something for nothing? You right-wingers, with your bloody sense of entitlement …
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
“You right-wingers, with your bloody sense of entitlement …”
You idiot left wingers and your childish misconceptions regarding things that are “free”.
He’s already paid for the bag in his grocery purchases.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am
“He’s already paid for the bag in his grocery purchases.”
In which case, the Supermarket is profiting off the decision of those of us who bring our own bags/reuse plastic bags. And anyway, the Supermarket is externalising the costs of cleaning up/disposing of plastic bags onto the ratepayer. So bb (and all other shoppers, whether they use plastic bags or not) has only “paid” for part of the total cost of the good.
No such thing as a free bag, reddy. That’s econ 101.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:47 am
in the article we can see that plastic bags represent .2% of our waste
now if we then allow for the re-use of these bags eg binliners, then the likelihood of this actually making a significant difference is nil as I know that in our houseold for instance we would need to either a) purchase replacements for other use or b) pay the 5 cents – so we *may* reduce plastic bag use – but I struggle to see by much – we could always look at the biggest component of the other 99.8% – low hanging fruit and all that
This feels like hugging a polar bear
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Redbaiter – your hot-headed, ill-considered comments do ‘your’ side no favours. We on the left love you for it though. Keep up the good work!
Vote:Big Bro – your comments contrast strongly with Red’s and make him sound gormless.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Redbaiter (5471) 0 1 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
“You right-wingers, with your bloody sense of entitlement …”
You idiot left wingers and your childish misconceptions regarding things that are “free”.
He’s already paid for the bag in his grocery purchases.
Is that because the shop pays for the bags and accounts for them as part of their overheads? They do the same with stock shrinkage, so IF I steal an item, have I also paid for it along with my purchases? Adds whole new meaning to 5 finger discount.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
“No such thing as a free bag, reddy. ”
You sad arrogant non comprehending waste of space. That was your implication not mine.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
AG
It is a matter of choice, if you shop at pak n save then you know you are going to have to pay for your plastic bags, they (pak n save) price their products accordingly however nothing on the face of this earth would make me shop in their stores.
If I wanted to mix with that type of crowd then I would go to a bloody game of rugby league.
We who refuse to shop at pak n save pay for our plastic bags AG, only pinko’s seem to think they are “free”.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:51 am
DPF
What has happened to the “edit” function?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
PhilBest says New Zealand is
Phil joins Redbaiter in the ‘loved by the left for the work you do for us’ ranks. Go Phil!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
reddy,
“You sad arrogant non comprehending waste of space. That was your implication not mine.”
errr … no. It was (and still seems to be) bigbruv’s. Maybe you could sit him down and explain the concept of “externalities”. You might also want to counsel him on his arrogance problem, too, given his views that “If I wanted to mix with that type of crowd then I would go to a bloody game of rugby league.”
You right-wingers and your hatred of ordinary people. Makes me sad. Really sad.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
“We on the left love you for it though.”
Sure you do you liar. With your ceaseless propaganda and lies, you are the worst thing to hit civilisation since the Third Reich.
If only the internet had been around when Hitler made his run, he would have been stopped just like you bastards wil be.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I would argue that the production and use of plastic bags seriously hinders the development of better alternatives. 2009 is the ‘Year of the Natural Fibre’. There is tremendous potential for development here, providing ‘we’ can loosen our grip/dependence on synthetic ‘solutions’. Harakeke is gold (if we utilise it!).
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
red, for once you were almost right.
The internet was too late to stop Hitler, but it sure played its part in thwarting Sarah “Post Turtle” Palin.
Cool, aeh?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:58 am
reddy,
“you are the worst thing to hit civilisation since the Third Reich.”
Seriously? We’re worse than disco? Or reality TV? Or rtd alcopops/
Say it ain’t so, reddy!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:58 am
trouble with this greenie, is that cotton is a natural fibre and yet far more damaging to the environment than baby seal fur.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:58 am
See your stinking lying acolytes in the mainstreammedia lied about the success of earth hour too.
http://www.systemoperator.co.nz/
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:59 am
If a retailer chooses to set up their business in a way that charges for individual components, and I choose to but form them then I have no problem paying for plastic bags. I do have a problem paying a tax on them – other than GST.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
greenfly said “Her threats are still only that. We shall see. She’s talking about crushing the cars of recidivist boy racers. What a powerful message from the government. What a piddling response to the current situation, crush the cars of a few hoons.”
I agree greenfly – it IS a powerful message from the government, especially if Clayton Cosgrove is recruited as a cheerleader, and both the main parties support the proposed legislation.
What you fail to mention is that these “few hoons” have no respect whatsoever for the law, the government, the police, the judiciary, or you and I. Massive fines bills don’t faze them, nor does disqualification from driving. They are above the law, in their own world-view. A creative solution is called for, and destroying the possession they value the most, which has become the conduit for their offending is entirely logical IMHO.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Re crushing cars… I’d rather they were exported, sold and the proceeds (less expost costs) given to charity.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:18 am
getstaffed
While exporting sounds like a good idea I am not sure who would take them, we are already the dumping ground for cars that the rest of the world do not want.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Must be a slow news day if we are discussing two overblown problems Boy racers and plastic shopping bags.
Still its a an opportunity to see that the National party is infected by leftism and authoritarianism.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Still at least one major issue has been resolved today.
Apparently we have been spelling Wanganui incorrectly for the past 170 years – it spelling should be Whanganui in accordance with the pre European Maori usage of the Latin alphabet.
We will now have “public consultation” on what to do about it. Perhaps thats a good way of spending some of the 50 million dollars that a 5c levy on each of the billion plastic bags we use annually would raise.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
An “h” in Wanganui…..well now that we have that sorted I wonder what the Maori party and the Willie Jackson’s of this world have planned to take the spotlight off the child killing epidemic within the Maori community.
Mind you, I would suggest that the “h” debate has a long way to go yet.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Plassie bags again
let’s present the stats differently – the average supermarket bag weighs less than 5 gm but let’s call it 5 gm. If there are a billion bags each year (big scary number that) then the average person uses about 5 bags a week – so we will save 25 gm of waste a week per person or less than an actual ounce (very small not very scary number).
I just you gave all a big hug wrapping my arms around my screen as I feel the need to share my warm fuzzies – b***dy polar bear bit me though – ungrateful sod!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Greenfly, I would love to see you or any of your Luddite colleagues in a fair and open debate with Professor Paul Callaghan on just about any issue, but especially the nuclear one. Follow that link to the video of Prof. Callaghan presenting his “Beyond the Farm and Theme Park” talk. He is the man we should be listening to about the future direction of the country, not a bunch of neo-Marxist anti-social sandal-wearing pot-head Gaia worshipping Luddite back to the caves activists.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Here is the link again: Professor Paul Callaghan in action.
http://macdiarmid.ac.nz/news/video/rsnz.php
Possibly the most-international-awarded living NZ scientist.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
I trust this comment is OK, DPF?
Correct me if I am wrong, but Ian Wishart in “Absolute Power” did say that what IS conclusively known is that Prof. Peter Davis appeared and spoke at some convention in the USA without appearing in any customs/inbound-outbound records. A scandal could justifiably have been made of that, but Wishart said that the fact that Davis had been victimised by extreme smears that were untrue, meant that the real scandal died a natural death instead of becoming “diplomatic-cover-gate” (in addition to all Helen’s other “-gate” scandals) as it should have.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Kuariki has been arrested again, for assault this time. No mention of the Judge who keeps bailing him being charged with being a party to the offence.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
It is our shamelessly biased news media who are responsible for never giving Prof. Paul Callaghan and all the rest of “NZ’s brightest minds” a fair hearing. They are responsible for a LOT, when it comes to the wrong direction this country has been headed in for so many years now.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Bailey Kuariki arrested yet again.
No doubt the judge will give him another chance. I’m still trying to work out what the judge said after last weeks court appearance, I thought he had his last chance well over a month ago. No wonder he takes nothing seriously.
In my opinion he should be castrated, that would take some of the fight out of him. Works for dogs anyway.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
MyNameIsJack said: trouble with this greenie, is that cotton is a natural fibre and yet far more damaging to the environment than baby seal fur.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Oops! Caught out by the lack of edit function!
Jack – agreed re conventionally raised cotton. It’s a disgrace. ‘Organically’ raised cotton is an improvement, but still falls short. Hemp, of course, is vastly superior, especially in the way it can be grown without the nasty pest/herbacides you allude to with your cotton comment. Don’t agree however, that baby seal fur damages the environment.
PhilBest – you’d love to see… a bunch of neo-Marxist anti-social sandal-wearing pot-head Gaia worshipping Luddite back to the caves activists in discussion with Professor Paul Callaghan. Not a great way to get them interested, all that abuse, don’t you think?
slijmbal the average supermarket bag weighs less than 5 gm blah, blah..tell it to Nick Smith, your new Nanny.
Inventory2 – if you regard Collins’ ‘message’ as a powerful one, then you are taking things a little too seriously. Crunch, crunch! She failed to crunch the Corrections boss, now she’s lowered her sights about as far as they can go, to the level of some louts in noisy cars and you are encouraged by that level of governance? Guess you are for the plastic bag ban as well. That’ll stamp the authority of the National Government on the people alright!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
“2009 is the ‘Year of the Natural Fibre’. There is tremendous potential for development here, providing ‘we’ can loosen our grip/dependence on synthetic ’solutions’. ”
Well, are you talking about the same synthetic components that have helped progress over the past one hundred years?
Your advocacy of natural fibres is commendable, but why the need to demonise other options?
It appears to be a common trait of one-eyed Luddites, the fundamentalists, who want to impose their “medieval cart-and-horse” views.
Fortunately, progress is unstoppable and despite your lack of belief in civilisation someone will come up with the solution to this and other problems.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I could say something to you greenflee, but I won’t as I am walking on the thin line regarding a 4 month punishment ban. I bet Trevor Mallard is happy that politicians don’t receive demerits. Sorry but couldn’t resist the double standard.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
“a bunch of neo-Marxist anti-social sandal-wearing pot-head Gaia worshipping Luddite back to the caves activists.”
Do you want any extra Straw Man with that, Phil?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
dad – do it, you girl’s blouse
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Hmmm perhaps. It just seems like a waste of a potentially valuable resource. Ok, give the cars to me. I’ll set up a charity that exports them, and see that 100% of the profits are distributed to worthwhile NZ charities.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Manolo said: Your advocacy of natural fibres is commendable, but why the need to demonise other options?
Vote:Thank you for the commendation, Manolo. In answer to your question re ‘demonising’, how me where I did that and I’d be happy to discuss the ‘demonising’, (if you have any evidence. Not just blowing, are you?)
March 30th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Exporting the cars of convicted boy racers would be more economically efficient. But it would be less effective as a deterrent to the perpetrators. Watching your car (or one of your mates’) get crushed on TV might be more effective. We can hope.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
s.russell – crushed car = badge of honour (mark my words).
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Greenfly
Like all Greens you are great at finding the negative in any idea proposed by one who is not a fully fledged Watermelon.
I wonder if you could (or are able) to break the habit of a lifetime and propose an idea that might halt the boy racer problem?
Go on..give it a crack.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
# greenfly Says:
s.russell – crushed car = badge of honour (mark my words).
Ratbiter thinks not. Even after your pimped out little car is crushed, the H.P. payments go on… Boy racers detest the 28 day confiscations, so crushing the cars would be a further step in the right direction IMHO.
Some may have expensive aftermarket go-faster components, but in any large-scale crushing campaign I doubt it would be economical to strip these for resale before crushing takes place.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Does dozens of radio appearances on Radio New Zealand/National Radio not count as the news media?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
By Callaghan, that is.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Willie Jackson is having a field day with the restoration of the ‘H’ and is delighting the Michael Laws has gotten a much deserved ‘carrot up his nose’ over the name change. ‘ow ‘orrible!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
An “H” in Wanganui today…….are we in for a complete name change for New Zealand next?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
big bruv – we’ve already had several name changes for these islands we live on. Ever wondered why we are so happy to carry the name of some obscure part of the Netherlands as our title? Zealand for God’s sake!
Vote:As to the crunching of the cars – while I don’t think it will a. happen and b. work, I do think it would be great to watch and I would have no sympathy at all for the noise-makers. How about effective and policed noise restrictions though I’m expecting you to immediately bleat about the Greens wanting to BAN loud noises (but isn’t that what you want also, and Collins, and the Nats and the good folk of Aotearoa
March 30th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
greenfly, don’t you think those of us who live in Te Wai Pounamu might also appreciate a reduction in noise?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Greenfly
So you think we should change the name of our country then?, I wonder what name we may use?.
As for the boy racer problem…your idea will not work, you seem to think that these scum bags will take a blind bit of notice when a noise officer turns up.
Keep trying Greenfly, I want to hear your solution to this problem.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
For Greenblowfly-
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
[DPF: Try to cut down on calling people fwits please]
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
..and like all such neurotic fuckwits, you view gummint and the law as the solution to every perceived problem, even when the simple and effective solution would be a return to the standards of personal morality that in your sad sick adherence to moral relativism, you hate so intensely.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
OH, OK.. but hell, its not easy.
BTW, where’s the edit function gone??
[DPF: Not sure. I have not changed anything. The plugin may have failed]
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
greenflee, why should I say a thing as SIR redbaiter has just delivered a right arm over the wicket extremely witty delivery with his “neurotic” comment. Splendid middle stump post.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I can see it. Edit function, that is.
I suspect it vanishes for those hardy souls running IE8.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
“OH, OK.. but hell, its not easy.”
Understatement of the year redbaiter.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Of course its not easy; those on the right have never been good at self control, only controlling others.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
What sort of CD’s and DVD’s do we think Helen Clark has in her collection?
Romantic.
Crime Thriller
Classical
Big Band
Horror
Hard Core Violence
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
GM, don’t know, don’t care. I’m not likely to sit down to watch one with her.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I don’t know about that GM, but I bet one book called “Absolute Power” is not gathering dust on her bookshelves.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Bloody Hell DPF!, you really are in “school teacher mode” today.
Was it a rough weekend?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Redbaiter (5481) 1 1 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
For Greenblowfly-
There’s no good reason to change it. The only reason you want it changed is because you’re a neurotic fuckwit who automatically idenitifies change with “better”.
[DPF: Try to cut down on calling people fwits please]
Your blog, your rules, but I wonder why redbaiter never attracts demerits. Almost every post he makes drips with venom and insult.
[DPF: Redbaiter's posting style does cause problems, and personally I prefer he tones it down. However unlike many his intention is not to troll. He mainly posts on topic and has a legitimate world view around not appeasing socialism etc. and reflects that in his comments. And he generally responds to a warning, so a warning will suffice.]
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
“Of course its not easy; those on the right have never been good at self control, only controlling others”
Proof that Jack is…
1. A troll
Vote:2. An idiot
3. A person who must have missed the last nine years and Labour’s attempts to control everything we do and say.
March 30th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
MNIJ – quite the reverse (which you know…). The left is all for increasing state control over every aspect of our lives. JK will let me spend my tax cut on what works best for me. Meanwhile the left would have dictated which light-bulb I could use, the strength of my shower, the number of kids i could have … and what my daughter could buy at the school tuck shop.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
big bruv So you think we should change the name of our country then?
Where the hell did you draw that conclusion from??? Good idea of yours though! Zealand Identify with that tiny part of Holland, do you Bro?
No idea what you’re spluttering on about, HeadBeater (anyone used that one? Seems apt)
Dad4justice – you’ve got nothing.
Jack – it’s already much quieter here than on Te Ika a Maui. I runga i Te Punga o te Waka a Maui, however, it’s blissfully quiet!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Perhaps because Redbaiter is in fact DPF’s evil twin…
*cue to sound of manic Vincent Price-like cackle*
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Almost every post he makes drips with venom and insult he’s a rightwing lickspittle
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
MNIJ – cursing and slandering lefties is not as bad as cursing and slandering other people. Try to keep up!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
“Dad4justice – you’ve got nothing.”
What an odd comment. Are you sure your two Dux children were not Ducks in a fetid swamp?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Greenfly
I just want you chaps in the Green party to have the best possible chance of being part of the next government, accordingly I think you should promote Sue Bradford to the co-leaders position, campaign on the anti smacking laws and also campaign on changing the name of New Zealand to something Maori.
Go on, be honest with us for a change.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
bigbruv and getstuffed, funny but I don’t seem to recall a leftist government attempting to force me in to the army. Saying they know better than me about where I should work is a biggie, I would have thought. In similar vein, it is not leftie govts that want to run “work for the dole” schemes either. That is another preserve of the right, the theft a Man’s labour without proper recompense is the most heinous crime any government can commit.
[DPF: No one has to do work for the dole. You just don't get the dole (funded from the theft of my labour) if you don't]
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
dad4justice (5091) 1 1 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I don’t know about that GM, but I bet one book called “Absolute Power” is not gathering dust on her bookshelves.
I doubt she could be bothered with Wishart, I can’t be, except to see how stupid he becomes as he ages.
Seen his lates”? God now causes plane crashes to punish abortionists. And just like the god of old, this bastard doesn’t just punish the guilty, oh no, he also goes for their children.
http://tbr.cc/
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
What sort of CD’s and DVD’s do we think Helen Clark has in her collection?
I have no idea but I do know what her favorite movie is.
Or at least was in when she was asked in 2007
Totally unsurprising really
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
MNIJ – do people talk to you at parties… or do you find they drift away quite quickly? you seem to be full of venom all the time. can’t be healthy.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
getstaffed, I am the life of the party! But good attempt at avoiding the point.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
The Motorcycle Diaries? Awhitewash of the psychopathic murderer Che Guevera. Yes, how unsurprising-
Some quotes from the cowardly swine. Remind you of anybody?
“my friends are friends as long as they think like me, politically.”
and further..
“To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary…These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall!
“Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!”
“Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become … ”
and when finally captured-
“I am much more valuable to you alive than dead,”
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Jack
“That is another preserve of the right, the theft a Man’s labour without proper recompense is the most heinous crime any government can commit.”
I totally agree with you about it being a heinous crime, while I do not think it is the “most heinous” it is right up there.
So how about we do not reward “a man” if he does not work or labour for his money?.
And please, tell me what right wing government has attempted to force you into the army? or forced you to move for work.
While you are at it, can you tell me what is honourable about stealing money from a mans hard won pay packet to give out to those who do not want to work.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I note that Chester Burrows is right behind the name change for Wanganui, no doubt this is another sop to the racist apartheid party and another part of the coalition agreement.
Key is making a big mistake here, he would do well to remember the bounce that Don Brash got in popular support when he told the truth about Maori.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Jack???
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
i think he/she/redbaiter is a formerly high ranking national party functionary..
..with now far too much time on his/her hands..
..and dpf knows who it is..
..hence the latitude shown..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
“And just like the god of old, this bastard doesn’t just punish the guilty, oh no, he also goes for their children.”
You should fall to your knees and thank G_d that you live in a country that allows you to express the free will he gave you.
I agree with getstaffed, you really do seem like a person that is filled with hate for your fellow man. It is sad.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Sounds good, Big Bruv. But will the trust-fund kids starve to death?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
If there is any latitude show here it is towards the left, and made even more remarkable that in almost every instance of a leftist posting here, their contributions are so infantile, unsophisticated, dogmatic, uninformed and just plain dumb, they’re a serious turn off to anyone who wants to read anything challenging and/or informative.
If I was Mr. Farrar, I would seriously consider limiting the prolific output of children like Ratbitter, MYnameisJerkoff, Greenblowfly, Philuseless, AGatha and others of their boring but vocal ilk on the grounds that they’re combined output of Marxist drivel, smears, false allegations, re-writes of history, moral relativity and general all round commie bullshit make this site almost unreadable.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
CraigM (413) Vote: 0 0 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
“And just like the god of old, this bastard doesn’t just punish the guilty, oh no, he also goes for their children.”
You should fall to your knees and thank G_d that you live in a country that allows you to express the free will he gave you.
I agree with getstaffed, you really do seem like a person that is filled with hate for your fellow man. It is sad.
It is because i love my fellow man that i hate what the god botherers try to do to us. You can spend all the time you want on your knees craig, just don’t expect the rest of us to follow your bloodthirsty myths.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
You should fall to your knees and thank G_d that you live in a country that allows you to express the free will he gave you.
Has a lot more to do with the secular founders and secular people of today that with any god botherer myths. Religion steals Man’s life and withers his soul.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
“Religion steals Man’s life and withers his soul.”
fugley says that too. What a sad full of hate person you are.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Jack?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Far too easy really. Just wind it up and watch it go.
On another topic: Obama is off to G20.
“With an entourage of 500 staff, an armour-plated limousine and a fleet of decoy helicopters, America’s new president will arrive for his first visit to Britain amid huge razzmatazz on Tuesday for the G20 summit….”
Now, add the other 19 leaders and lets start counting carbon footprints shall we.
Man, I’m glad some people turned turned their lights off for an hour on Saturday.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Funny how all you god botheres scream “HATE” when someone dares criticise your myths, points to the clay feet of your god(s) and challenges your beliefs.
It is not hate to point out the stupidity of religion and its followers.
But dad, feel free to keep worshipping a child murderer if that’s what spins your wheels. Just don’t expect me to follow you.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
fugley is evidence that Satan is in control on earth.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“Sounds good, Big Bruv. But will the trust-fund kids starve to death?”
No, they have trust funds. Duh.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Craig,
We’re talking about a hypothetical world where people don’t get money without doing any work.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
dad4justice (5093) Vote: 0 0 Says:
March 30th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
fugley is evidence that Satan is in control on earth.
hang on, its almost Easter again – isn’t the easter Bunny in charge now?
I bet you’d love my latest Tshirt design – mohammed on a cross!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Ok, I’ll play for a bit.
“Funny how all you god botheres scream “HATE” when someone dares criticise your myths,..”
Not all of us scream hate. Loose generalisation that is at the heart of most of your posts.
“…points to the clay feet of your god(s) and challenges your beliefs.”
You couldn’t challenge my beliefs if you tried. I find your rantings incredibly sad.
“It is not hate to point out the stupidity of religion and its followers.”
Correct, it is not. The hate comes through in the way you do it & the things you say.
I’d like to think that I can tell you I disagree with you, without getting nasty, calling you names and critising your beliefs. Yes Jack, even your non-belief is a belief of sorts. You spew forth venom and hatred for no purpose other than to ridicule and abuse.
Surely you can see the difference.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
“Craig,
We’re talking about a hypothetical world where people don’t get money without doing any work.”
I know, it just seemed too easy to take it in that context. Sorry.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
BRUV:::::::::::::Perhaps Maori could use the new spelling in their language while it remains the same for the rest of us…A bit harder will be the new name for the Auckland super city. I heard today it was to be named Tamaki Makaroa or similar.
Car Crushing……….Apparently it is only to be a final option at a Judges Discretion…..The boy racer will be an old age pensioner before all the judicial process, various inquiries and reports and appeals are completed even if you could find a Judge with the balls to order it.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Ryan
Who said anything about a hypothetical world?
This is the real world, those need money and do not work for it should go without.
If Jack wants me to give money to low life so they can get pissed and kill their kids then the bastards should be made to work for it or receive nothing.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Sorry Craig, forgot my manners.
Its OK to terrify children with tales of hellfire and damnation, but its not OK to call the people who tell those tales monsters.
Its OK to make laws based on the writings a desert cult from 2000 years ago, but it is not OK to criticise those who would make those laws.
Its OK to claim (as Ian Wishart does) that god punishes children for the sins of their fathers, but it is not OK to point out the bloodthirsty nature of a god that would do that?
It is OK to kill in god’s name while all the time preaching god is love.
Yeah, I forgot my manners – religion is too fragile to be criticised.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
“religion is too fragile to be criticised.”
So its seems is the social welfare system.
Come on Jack, I asked you some fairly reasonable questions, how about an answer?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
“Sorry Craig, forgot my manners.”
That’s ok. I forgive you.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
obama has given the head of g.m. the arse..
effective immediately..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
So, a job opening for you phil?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
baxter said: The boy racer will be an old age pensioner… and I laughed and laughed and thought of you, Inv2. Go, due process!
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
David at 9.00 a.m.
Vote:That question has intrigued me.
Especially as the lawfully wedded hubby is back in New Zealand.
I have seen New Zealand born Saudi Arabia nurses caught like this for N.Z. tax on their foreign income. That was because they had not done everything to lose their NZ tax residency status. Things like having a New Zealand credit card and retaining long term membership of the Tennis Club were sufficient to provide that nexus to make their world wide income taxable in NZ. Of course, they get a credit for tax paid overseas, but when the tax rate is only 3%, that is stuff all.
March 30th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
This country is f&^&^$(&^$ked……… Yep and you can say leave, as am sure many leftie clown pants will…..
So much happens that leaves me miffed and in disbelief…..
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
“obama has given the head of g.m. the arse..
effective immediately..
phil(whoar.co.nz)”
Thus proving that B Hussein Messiah Obama is indeed a dictator.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
“Thus proving that B Hussein Messiah Obama is indeed a dictator.”
More than that, he’s a thug and a dictator with his use of standover tactics to force companies to comply with his edicts.
Such as Cuomo’s threat to publicly name the AIG executives (he’d received a confidential list) who received bonuses unless they returned them, and this threat was made after public threats to kill had been issued.
This is just straight out Bolshevik thuggery.
For government officials to behave in such a gangsterish manner and receive no censure from America’s media is unbelievable really.
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
And this is the point that is being missed – like it or not El Presidente’ is only Dear Leader in another variation – a fact that is never ever mentioned (or even questioned. . .)
And what is really. really sad, is that the locals think he is the sun, moon and stars all in one package (the Messiah to some)!
They will, I guess, eventually learn the sad and grim realities of the man and his policies (just as all us Kiwi’s did as a result of DL’s dictatorship).
Just hope that it doesn’t take 9 years
Sic transit gloria America perhaps?
Vote:March 30th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Showers and Power Showers are now firmly on the Agenda for the UK.
THis all looks very orchestrated and deeply disturbing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1165772/Water-police-ban-power-showers–summer-bills-soar-purge-waste.html
Vote:March 31st, 2009 at 7:13 am
GM
Yes, it is very orchestrated and very deliberate – especially when you consider that the UN Charter has references to a ‘One World order’ and DL and her mates (sic) are hell-bent on creating it, although observation indicates that they are merely the (very willing and well rewarded) puppets for what is coming into play.
The interesting thing is that I don’t think that the arrival of the order will be spectacular – it will be delibrately arranged to ‘sneak-up’- on us and will be complete before the majority are aware it has arrived.
It will of course be very skillfully presented as being advantageous for (almost) everybody, and while the majority will welcome it, some (especially Christians and Jews) will be aware of its implications and make appropriate responses.
Interesting to watch isn’t it?
Vote:March 31st, 2009 at 8:37 am
“Redbaiter
For government officials to behave in such a gangsterish manner and receive no censure from America’s media is unbelievable really.”
Censure, from the media? what the fuck do you think your talking about? The medias job is to report the news, not go around making moral judgements on people. “We report, you decide” or what ever that fox slogan (just don’t lie like they do!) is, you thick fuck.
Vote: